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Frozenhelfire
Profile Joined May 2010
United States420 Posts
February 17 2012 14:26 GMT
#21
This was probably/obviously a directive from the board. I don't see why this is so hard to understand.
polar bears are fluffy
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
February 17 2012 14:43 GMT
#22
I don't think you should take much of his attitude negatively. I don't feel like the interview was formal enough to judge him that way. (him shouting etc, cuz scoots was also nagging him on)
www.twitter.com/rootillusion & www.facebook.com/illusionsc2
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
February 17 2012 14:51 GMT
#23
On February 17 2012 18:47 isleyofthenorth wrote:

I sincerely hope mlg crashes fast and hard for the greater good of sc2 esports



Yeah I am sure a ton of good will come to the scene by one of the major groups in it completely blowing up
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nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
February 17 2012 15:44 GMT
#24
the reaction comes down to people being too stupid to understand the simplest aspects of how traditional, VC-funded companies are run. Sundance has a bunch of 60 year old white dudes who put 50mil in this thing telling him what to do and its his job to take the heat and make something out of the business/plan that he is given. CEO means chief EXECUTIVE officer.

its like iloveoov (board) telling fantasy what to do, and fantasy executes it
(or sc2, boxer telling mma what to do)
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emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
February 17 2012 16:30 GMT
#25
I swear some of you are living in a bubble and didn't actually listen to the interview. Sundance runs a business and is trying to make it viable, they are trying this once to see if it works, if you can't afford it then thats fine but if you can afford it then pay so that next time they can drop the price and get more viewers and put more money in to the players and teams.

We should be willing to pay, nothing comes for free in this world. Grow up children and join the real world where businesses make money and you don't always get what you want
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
February 17 2012 17:39 GMT
#26
On February 17 2012 18:04 bGr.MetHiX wrote:I hope this Moondance or whatever guy is


I laughed so hard at Moondance.

I think Sundance is a good guy, but I've yet to see the LO3 interview.
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
February 17 2012 18:08 GMT
#27
Maybe he needs Butch to steady the ship.

I didn't catch the show, but it sounds like he didn't cover himself in glory with explaining the business decisions & mistakes they made. Perhaps he just forgot the delivery of the message is as important as the message itself, and didn't prepare enough. Oh well, everyone has bad days. From what I've seen so far, he's a decent guy. He does seem to genuinely care about the growth of the scene. MLG's decision to change their model is perfectly understandable, though I disagree with a few details. I hope it works out for them. SC2 & esports in general is better off with MLG in business.
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TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
February 17 2012 18:38 GMT
#28
On February 18 2012 03:08 Telcontar wrote:
Maybe he needs Butch to steady the ship.

I didn't catch the show, but it sounds like he didn't cover himself in glory with explaining the business decisions & mistakes they made. Perhaps he just forgot the delivery of the message is as important as the message itself, and didn't prepare enough. Oh well, everyone has bad days. From what I've seen so far, he's a decent guy. He does seem to genuinely care about the growth of the scene. MLG's decision to change their model is perfectly understandable, though I disagree with a few details. I hope it works out for them. SC2 & esports in general is better off with MLG in business.


Take a look at reddit for another viewpoint on how the interview with him went. He actually gave a damn good interview when Scoots wasn't yelling over him repeatedly.
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