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On February 11 2012 08:06 sam!zdat wrote:
Man, I feel you, but stick with it! I studied Latin for 10 years and it was worth every minute. It is really hard right now, but it will get easier and you will start to realize how brilliant the really good stuff is. Plus the first time you actually just sit down and read a sentence you will feel like a total nerd baller. Who are you reading? Vergil?
Ovidius I think? Never really looked at the writer ^^ This guy likes to abbreviate every perfectum into an infinitivus, before we translated some of De Bello Gallico. I only have to follow it for 1.5 more years(when i'm done with high school) Let's just hope I won't fail it :/
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Caesar is awful, don't judge the language based on him. You only read it because everything's a declarative and the only vocab you need is 15 ways to say "attack." It's historically interesting but the man is a horrendous stylist.
Ovid (as he's called in the English speaking world) is pretty good. I would imagine you are reading Metamorphoses.
It's not really that he's using an infinitive, it's just that he's using -ere as the syncopated form of -erunt. This is fairly common; there are a number of literary syncopations and archaic forms that are used in literature but you don't learn straight up from the textbook.
Anyway, I don't have anything more to say about it except keep learning Latin, it's totally baller and all the cool kids know it - you're doing the hardest part now and if you give up after this it's like only playing micro trainers for 6 months and then deciding starcraft is boring so you stop playing.
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I know.... But it just takes so much effort for something i'm not that interested in. It's definitely one of the hardest classes. Like math or physics, but in those i'm actually very interested and willing to work for. It doesn't help I basically only had shit teachers and thinking a bit too much off myself that I could be good at latin without doing shit for the past 4 years. I'm good at everything why not latin! The problem was that when I choose my classes I would do exam's in everything was so extremely easy, I never made any homework, I figured it would stay the same, but it obviously didn't ^^ Yeah I regret my decision but on the other hand, I wouldn't have even known half off my friends right now and going to Rome was awesome aswell and If I wouldn't be doing latin it would be German or French. Which I detest aswell.
Haha, I just have to suck it up and try harder ^^
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On February 11 2012 08:38 Recognizable wrote:
Haha, I just have to suck it up and try harder ^^
Good man.
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Ancient languages are fun. You know that if you keep studying them, eventually you'll know about as much as everyone else in the field knows. It may take you longer than your fellows and it may take you more effort, but if you keep at it, you'll get it someday. Translating is also incredibly fun, IMO, though obviously time-consuming. You want to punch a baby while you're doing it, but after you're done, and you have something coherent, and it makes sense, and your professor thinks it's an accurate translation ... best feeling in the world, man.
I've heard Classical Greek is the most rewarding ancient lang to study. Wish I had space to learn it, but I don't, and I can't justify studying it at school. Maybe a self-study one day. ^^;
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I'm jealous of you guys mastering other languages/translating. I've tried in the past to self teach with a textbook but gave up. There's a lot of stuff in Greek, Latin, Pali and Russian I'd like to read in the original.
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On February 11 2012 09:11 Mothra wrote:
I'm jealous of you guys mastering other languages/translating. I've tried in the past to self teach with a textbook but gave up. There's a lot of stuff in Greek, Latin, Pali and Russian I'd like to read in the original.
I believe that if you get the books I used for the past 5 years you would be very able to teach it yourself on your own. The only thing the teachers did was repeat wat was in the books anyway. I don't know if there is also an English version however. It's called ''Fortuna''
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I recommend Wheelock's Latin if you are learning on your own.
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On February 10 2012 15:27 Azera wrote:[ + Show Spoiler +b]IMBensin On February 10 2012 00:46 IMBensin wrote:
I have a university degree in English. Honestly, I can't say i would take it back. I enjoyed my time. I tried teaching a little after graduating, and that I really didn't like it. Maybe teaching English in a country other than the US would be more interesting/rewarding, idk. I thought about moving to a place like LA or New York City and start a writing career, then I realized I wanted to get married and start a family soon. I couldn't afford to be poor. Honestly though I could n't have predicted that when I was in university let alone highschool. I ended up switching fields into nuclear technology. So in other words I think science and technology are much more financially stable and rewarding fields.
So my honest recommendation, is to not choose one or the other. You seem like you have good work ethic, you can dual major. Or major in engineering, math or physics and minor in English. At US universities at least this is not only possible but the structure of required classes encourages it. Not everything has to be one or the other. Thanks for your input! What is your occupation currently? I'm curious [/b]
I'm a "nuclear technician" in the US Navy. I work on the mechanical parts of the nuclear power plant that powers air craft carriers.
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Ahh the good ol' days of teenage life. I wanted to study Astrophysics when I was in secondary school, but after managing to NEVER pass a Physics test/exam at A levels, I decided that for the good of my academic and my mental health, I'll never touch it again.
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On February 24 2012 19:00 mrGRAPE wrote:
Ahh the good ol' days of teenage life. I wanted to study Astrophysics when I was in secondary school, but after managing to NEVER pass a Physics test/exam at A levels, I decided that for the good of my academic and my mental health, I'll never touch it again.
That sounds so sad =(
What if that happens to me?
DETERMINATION!!
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I'm just recently got my BS as a civil engineer from UCLA
Straight to the point
Science
Your family will probably want you to go the science route since its hold higher fame and respect from society and probably give you more opportunity in the job market. You will be spend 4 years of pain and suffering during the university days. I was always thought by my parent that its your choice to suffer during your school years and live happily afterward or the other way around. A Engineering/Science degree will force you to take lot of math basic background on about every other science area that may or may not relate to your major. This is a big plus if you carefully think about it. Getting high math education will allows you to beat most of the people in the lower end of the job market (ie teaching, I'm quite surprise when I learn what some of my high school teachers are incapable of). This will provide you with a "job guarantee", but this doesn't mean you willl get a well-paid job. Nonetheless, basing on the assumption and that the way you were raise is similar to mine (worry about job and respect from the family) science is your best bet.
In term of the nature of education choices, science have plenty. In the OP you mention a few word describing your option but those few word can be broken into no less than 20+ smaller branches. You will have lot of freedom afterward even if you decided on science route. The only difficult part is competition, you will be facing a lot of people who learn, and do things that you will never be able to do. The competition in this area is insane. If you are confidence in your math and science go for it(you might regret later like "everyone" in this field). Be warn tho many people ended up dropping from college on the sole fact that they decide to choose one of the most difficult option in life.
pro: high math education = job guarantee
high starting salary
con: just like SC2 it make you lifeless and make you feel miserable about yourself(QQ and rage in forum too)
You need to be able to motivate yourself
English
Since I'm bad with grammar, you should be able to expect that I suck when it comes to english.
As for the job opportunity, I don't have much clue on. One of my cousin got an English degree and now currently getting a higher degree. She work as a translator for medical books in my country (Thailand). The job field for "Language" degree are mostly depend on where you want and most likely ended up working. Plan ahead and be realistic. I don't know what you want for yourself. The only warning about any language degree is that you need something "special" to fight in the job market. For example, bilingual or even multi. You need to be able to stand out of the crowd. As for my cousin she know medical term which only a few people in her country does. So when the textbook publisher need someone to translate they go to her not just any translator. Just imagine if I were to get some random dude on the street and tell him to write a book about sc2 how much credit would you give to it? Probably not much. What about if that guy was someone big in the community ie Day[9]?
On educational option, there probably even more freedom than science. When I was taking my english classes I usually ended up with an A since I almost always argue with my prof on almost everything he/she said in class. All I have to do is back it up and you just havbe to maybe quote a few things here or there as long as it sound reasonable(stuff like symbolism yea those lil stuff that almost meaningless unless u just randomly put it into your content). The essay maybe weak, but it is interesting :D(that how most of my prof said when i fuck up real bad). However, this is where it get tricky. The amount of work you need to put it to your study can be extremely minimum and you will find yourself just fine. I remember at my apartment every thursday and friday my neighbor would be throwing a party until 1-2am while I(engineering student) would be watching GSL....wait ahem... studying and doing my homework. My guess is that those ppl either have a backup job already or simply dont give a damn about their life. But that doesnt mean an english or other "easier" major is screw until you are drunk. Instead of getting wasted with your friend you can always write essay for your scholaship, enter some literature contest, and build up your skills. The sad thing about this kind of job is that no one gonna come to offer you a job unless they know you or heard about you from somewhere. That is the reason why it is so difficult to get a job in this area. Not because it suck, but because it is more diffcult to prove yourself to the client.
pro: university life is so great :D
you probably get to write and read about w/e you want
con: job are hard to come by
you need some area of speciality other than just english (major & minor)
so here are some of my advice for you (assuming that you are just about done with high school)
dont be too fixated with your option instead be a little bit more open. You do not know who you are in the next few years. I was once fixed on being an architech and guess what I ended up say F THAT. Most likely though you will ended up going into one of the direction you mention, but don't worry too much.
As long as you work hard and give it 200% then you will ended up being successful even if u choose to b anything even progammer. All you need to do is be one step ahead of the curve. "There is no such thing as luck". However, there this thing call opportunity and it come and goes really quickly. Life is all about how fast can you grab those things. If you spend your day walking around partying then you will never be able to "see" them. If you are to just sit down and attentively waiting for it to appear on the side of your eye and stretch out your hand as far as you can to grab them then one day you will be able to grab it. You might ended up writing 1000 books and no one read 999 of the books, it doesnt matter as long as people enjoy the 1 book then you are all set.
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