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DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 01:19:10
January 19 2012 01:15 GMT
#41
Wait, I don't understand. Why isn't there an option that you wouldn't support the war because you are worried about the devastation to either country?

I mean it isn't anti-american to be against american wars. You can simply not agree with the war. Just because we're at war doesn't mean every American citizen must be for this war.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
January 19 2012 01:18 GMT
#42
On January 19 2012 10:15 DoubleReed wrote:
Wait, I don't understand. Why isn't there an option that you wouldn't support the war because you are worried about the devastation to either country?

I mean it isn't anti-american to be against american wars. You can simply not agree with the war. Just because we're at war doesn't mean every American citizen must be for this war.


You don't understand, I would be fine with that view. The problem is Person X considers the only correct view to be one of supporting China. Not neutrality - a side is picked - and it is automatically that of the old citizenship.
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 01:21:41
January 19 2012 01:20 GMT
#43
On January 19 2012 10:18 EtherealDeath wrote:
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On January 19 2012 10:15 DoubleReed wrote:
Wait, I don't understand. Why isn't there an option that you wouldn't support the war because you are worried about the devastation to either country?

I mean it isn't anti-american to be against american wars. You can simply not agree with the war. Just because we're at war doesn't mean every American citizen must be for this war.


You don't understand, I would be fine with that view. The problem is Person X considers the only correct view to be one of supporting China. Not neutrality - a side is picked - and it is automatically that of the old citizenship.


Well then he probably shouldn't get a security clearance. If they interview you, then just answer honestly. For security clearances, they do ask you questions like "Can you see this person being traitorous to the United States?" and "Does this person have complete devotion to the United States of America" etc. etc.

Citizenship is fine though.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
January 19 2012 01:22 GMT
#44
On January 19 2012 10:20 DoubleReed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 10:18 EtherealDeath wrote:
On January 19 2012 10:15 DoubleReed wrote:
Wait, I don't understand. Why isn't there an option that you wouldn't support the war because you are worried about the devastation to either country?

I mean it isn't anti-american to be against american wars. You can simply not agree with the war. Just because we're at war doesn't mean every American citizen must be for this war.


You don't understand, I would be fine with that view. The problem is Person X considers the only correct view to be one of supporting China. Not neutrality - a side is picked - and it is automatically that of the old citizenship.


Well then he probably shouldn't get a security clearance. If they interview you, then just answer honestly. For security clearances, they do ask you questions like "Can you see this person being traitorous to the United States?" and "Does this person have complete devotion to the United States of America" etc. etc.

Citizenship is fine though.


Yea, that's why I amended my position to being that of only mentioning it in case of being interviewed for Person X's security clearance. My previous view I admit was far too extreme.
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
January 19 2012 01:25 GMT
#45
Also, if he still has lots of contacts and family in China, then he probably won't be able to get too high a security clearance anyway.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 19 2012 02:08 GMT
#46
But, would he give up his chinese nationlity ? If not, in case of trouble before the war, he could leave the US to be back in China ? All in all you should just respond honestly and not trying actively to screw his demand as he would probably help you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
January 19 2012 02:24 GMT
#47
On January 19 2012 11:08 Erasme wrote:
But, would he give up his chinese nationlity ? If not, in case of trouble before the war, he could leave the US to be back in China ? All in all you should just respond honestly and not trying actively to screw his demand as he would probably help you


Sorry but I'm not parsing your statement at all. What do you mean he would help me? What demand? And yea, if you become a naturalized US citizen, in this case one would have to give up chinese nationality.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
January 19 2012 02:55 GMT
#48
If he's trying to get security clearance, get him out of the way. Security and citizenship exist for a reason, having loyalty to another country is not acceptable over the United States.
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