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Code S and Code A Predictions

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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
January 10 2012 21:17 GMT
#1
My Microsoft Paint skills suck nuts, you have been forewarned.

Lets Start with Code S

Group A and B (Already played)


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Group A went pretty much just as predicted
Only shock was how poorly Sen play TT but oh well. Boxer and Sen were the heart picks but they were outplayed by JJakji and Ganzi. I had Ganzi going 2nd and Jjakji 1st.

Takeaways: Ganzi is Gosu and will be a threat to win the whole thing.

Group B shocked the world.

forGG and Leenock started off with one of the best tvz's ever played (rivaling last seasons championship) and then they both faltered off. MC even after travel caught his opponents with their pants down (an ability he has mastered idk if its luck or skill) and Supernova just rolled over Leenock and MC.

Takeaways: Supernova is really good but his TvT is still makes him susceptible to losses. MC beat forGG and Leenock to advance so while I'm happy (personality through the muthafucking roof) I am still not convinced against a more prepared opponent he wont get crushed.



Group C
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This feels like a trap. MVP is better than this group. Nestea is still close to unbeatable ZvZ

MVP > Lucky
Nestea > Idra
MVP > Nestea
Idra > Lucky
Nestea > Idra


Group D
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This group comes down to Oz vs Curious imo. If Oz wins he probably faces Bomber and then Curious again if he loses. If curious wins he probably faces bomber and then inca again if he loses. I think Curious's ZvP is better than Oz's pvz. Bomber is a better player than Inca and shouldn't lose to him, but Inca is still an animal in PvP.

Curious > Oz
Bomber > Inca
Bomber > Curious
Inca > Oz
Curious ROFLSTOMPS Inca

Group E
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MMA is better than everyone in this group. Gumiho has good TvZ but my liquid bias is going to leave Zenio pwning him. Yugioh doesnt have good zvz or zvt (how did he get here again? lol)

MMA > Gumiho
Zenio > Yugioh
MMA > Zenio
Gumiho > Yugioh
Zenio > Gumiho


Group F
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One of these names is not good like the others (hint: Genius). DRG is still top 2 ZvT in the world with Leenock. JYP is still an animal and I think that Puma will help prepare him for sC.

JYP > sC
DRG > Genius
JYP > DRG
sC > Genius
DRG > sC


Group G
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This group is a clusterfuck of brand new blood (Brown), new blood trying to establish some consistency (Happy), a dangerous 20 - 25th best player in the world (alive) and MARINEKINGPRIME. I think MKP takes this group but struggles. Every match can go either way. Having only 1 matchup to prepare for is key for Brown, plus he's SlayerS so he will have good strats.

Brown > Alive
MKP > Happy
MKP > Brown
Alive > Happy
Brown > Alive


Group H
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Puzzle has better PvP from what I've seen than PartinG. Keen is sooo good and I love him, sorry I'm not sorry BW and Nada fans.
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Also, Puzzle can have some sick PvT while Nada is not as great in the matchup

Puzzle > PartinG
Keen > Nada
Keen > Puzzle
Nada > PartinG
Puzzle > Nada


Code A
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I can't fill in the second round of Code S because those groups are not made based of the first rounds results TT. Heres the rest of the bracket filled out with my predictions.

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Bracket 1: I use a bias pick of Sen and then go with CLIIIIIDDEEEEEE. The code S player will probably advance though.

Bracket 2: IS THE SICKEST FUCKING BRACKET EVER. theSTC losira and forGG could be 75% of a semi finals of Code S. That being said forGG should stomp out this bracket with his time to prepare for each opponent and Losira is stile gosu x10000

Bracket 3: With no stand outs from Code A Boxer and Leenock look to meet for the Code S slot. Leenock's ZvT is so disgusting right now, but never ever count out boxer.

Bracket 4: Huk lucks out (see what i did there) with a reasonable bracket that he should be able to win with until the Round 2 Code S player comes.

Bracket 5: Oh hello Ryung. Don't worry, I haven't forgotten about you. SlayerS terran with matchups to prepare for? Sign me up. Oz vs Heart should be a good one though

Bracket 6: Squirtle has impressed me one time, and it was in the first installment of GSTL. Also, I am the biggest Seal fanboy outside of korea (and maybe including Korea). This guy is going to win Code S one day I just know it. He advances without too much challenge if Inca does end up 3rd in that group.

You heard it here first. Seal, Code S Champion in 2012.

Bracket 7: Continuing my NSHS bandwagoning, I have sculp advancing until the Round 2 Code S player. I think that he is also very very good. I really am not high on Yugioh or Cezanne so I don't think that this is a very strong bracket. This would be a nice safe place for a Round 2 code S'er to fall

Bracket 8: Zenex Life and Line, both zergs, both I know nothing about. I should probably pick life (going against genius in my predicted bracket) but alas. HerO will ROFLSTOMP this bracket unless he gets someone unbelievable from round 2 code S.

Bracket 9: Awhile ago I thought Tassadar was going to be the next big Protoss. Then I realized he just has a really really good 4gate. After that I thought Alicia was the next big Protoss thanks to Alej TT+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=230764
BboongBboong fucked me in fantasy GSTL and I wont let him fuck my predictions too. He wins until he meets a very angry and good sC for the Code S slot. sC powers his way to victory but I think it will be very close. I pick Alicia over ASD cause I really wanna see him win 1 time.

Bracket 10: Who? Happy losing his group actually becomes the best thing ever. He plays literally noone, and don't give me that shit about XiGua in WCG, he is good but he is not Code S caliber. Happy is. Another soft landing for a round 2 Code S loser

Bracket 11: Isn't luvsic the oGs player everyone in oGs thinks is the best in practice. Well he's back again, and I think he's probably pissed cause he lost to DRG (who's top 3 ZvZ in the world imo) and then had a TERRIBLE day at up and downs. I think he smashes this bracket including my predicted PartinG entry. He has a good shot to make it to Code S I would not want to face him.

Bracket 12: My predictions have it Morrow over Maru (have fun with that casters LOL). Morrow gets ZvT the whole way, he can probably baneling bust his way through the 14 year old Maru (he will shit his pants at Morrow's aggression) and my predicted alive (this is a tough call). Then Daddy comes home and cleans up the green mess and Nada goes back to Code S (see Guys I dont hate him at all 1 bit.








Thanks for reading I would love to hear your feedback. I am more than willing to discuss any match indepth so go ahead and tell me how wrong I am.

Also, I use stats as a source of information but I trust my watching of players (games and streams) over the stats in a players TLPD. So have fun ripping my predictions apart!

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There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
January 10 2012 21:28 GMT
#2
JYP over sC? Wow I can't help but just cringe at that prediction :D. I mean sC is really good at that matchup and he beat MC in GSL, and JYP is awful at PvT. I really didn't see any improvement at HSC4 either, what makes you think he stands a chance?
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
January 10 2012 21:29 GMT
#3
wow, this guy knows nothing about the korean scene...
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 22:39:26
January 10 2012 22:25 GMT
#4
On January 11 2012 06:28 Olinimm wrote:
JYP over sC? Wow I can't help but just cringe at that prediction :D. I mean sC is really good at that matchup and he beat MC in GSL, and JYP is awful at PvT. I really didn't see any improvement at HSC4 either, what makes you think he stands a chance?


sC's vP record is not telling of his actually skill in the matchup. He is very good at TvP (as almost every korean terran) is very good but MC and JYP could not play more differently. Beating MC is not a tell at whether you are good or not at XvP, just like beating july doesnt make you good vs zerg. They play unique styles that can be both exploit and be exploited. JYP has only played unbelievably good terrans + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=1115&part=games&vs=T&league=any&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=10&from_day=16&to_year=2011&to_month=12&to_day=23&action=Update
and I just think he will come to this match prepared and ready for sC.

On January 11 2012 06:29 kochanfe wrote:
wow, this guy knows nothing about the korean scene...


Thank you for your supporting evidence and examples. I actually watch every GSL and KSL everyday and basically any korean Streamer when they are on. I also finished 11th in fantasy GSTL (would have won if not for FENIX) and do fairly well in liquibets. Maybe you care to elaborate.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
January 10 2012 22:43 GMT
#5
zenio > gumiho is ehh but you really never know as we saw last night..
i haven't seen much of jyp's pvt so I can't really comment on jyp > sc. I think genius would be the protoss in the group to beat sc, as you never know wtf he's going to do.
drg < jyp will be a great match.
group h is going to be nuts. i feel like you love keen too much to make an unbiased call, but you watch more korean tournaments than i do so... i really do hope puzzle makes it out of that group

good stuff
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
January 10 2012 22:57 GMT
#6
zenio = liquid bias no doubt
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
January 10 2012 23:22 GMT
#7
I think you're underestimating Oz and Parting. It's true that Oz vs Curious is bad for Oz, but he should still beat anyone else in the group (Bomer included)
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 23:32:51
January 10 2012 23:31 GMT
#8
On January 11 2012 08:22 MrCon wrote:
I think you're underestimating Oz and Parting. It's true that Oz vs Curious is bad for Oz, but he should still beat anyone else in the group (Bomer included)


Partings placement is purely because of matchups. Do you think he can beat puzzle? if so he has a decent shot at advancing. I think puzzle takes that series 2 - 1 and then parting loses to nada because nada has good tvp.

Oz I explained gets fucked cause of matchups. ZvP is curious's strongest matchup and PvP is incas. I don't think Oz gets a chance to play bomber
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
RoboBob
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States798 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 01:39:06
January 11 2012 01:35 GMT
#9
I'm surprised at your group G predictions. Yes Brown is a Slayers Protoss, so theoretically his TvP should be off the charts. But he is untested, and lets face it: all Slayers Protoss have been a huge disappointment.

As much as I love MKP I don't see him making out of this group. His TvZ and TvP are off the charts, but his TvT has always been his achillies heel. And both Happy and aLive have stupid good TvT. Happy defeated MVP, Taeja, and STC in the WCG qualifiers (MVP advanced to win because it was a group stage). Happy was also the guy who dropped MKP to Code A in the up/downs. aLive beat MKP in GSL just two months ago, and he gets to prepare with Polt, who plays TvT exactly like MKP except better.

I think MKP is gonna need to pull a Boxer and come up with something creative to advance out of his group. His TvP might be top 5 worldwide, but even if he takes out Brown he must also win one of those TvTs.
RoboBob
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States798 Posts
January 11 2012 01:56 GMT
#10
On January 11 2012 08:31 Mattchew wrote:
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On January 11 2012 08:22 MrCon wrote:
I think you're underestimating Oz and Parting. It's true that Oz vs Curious is bad for Oz, but he should still beat anyone else in the group (Bomer included)


Partings placement is purely because of matchups. Do you think he can beat puzzle? if so he has a decent shot at advancing. I think puzzle takes that series 2 - 1 and then parting loses to nada because nada has good tvp.

Oz I explained gets fucked cause of matchups. ZvP is curious's strongest matchup and PvP is incas. I don't think Oz gets a chance to play bomber

Yeah, I really doubt that Oz could beat Bomber anyways. The only time I've seen Bomber lose a TvP was against MC, who always had stupid good PvT even during his slump. And even considering that, Bomber has beaten MC in many western tournaments.
cive
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada370 Posts
January 11 2012 03:47 GMT
#11
You have cool predictions. It would definitely be an interesting Ro16 if your predictions come true. I hope you give more credit to wild card players such as Genius.

I find the successful predictions are much harder with GSL than any foreign tournaments. The preparation time adds many more variables to the equation such as: team environment, work ethics and Bo'X' experience. In tournaments like MLG, the momentum plays a large role which results in more predictable winners.

I think your method of prediction may suit much better for foreign tournaments.
Play Terran
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
January 11 2012 04:30 GMT
#12
I agree with some, disagree with some.

But your prediction that Ryung beats Oz truly blows my mind. No idea how you think that could happen.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 11 2012 05:11 GMT
#13
You really hate StarTale, huh?

(Minus Curious and Bomber, that is.)
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
January 11 2012 05:18 GMT
#14
I don't think Zenio will make it out.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
January 11 2012 19:47 GMT
#15
Decent start but 90% of people would have picked MVP and Nestea to move on. Surprised IdrA lost to lucky but his decision making game 3 and lack of scouting game 2 lost him that series. One overlord into luckys base to see the amount of roachs and +1 could have shown idra not to attack there and that he was ahead economically
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
January 12 2012 13:18 GMT
#16
Rough day 2 with me being wrong about Oz. I wouldn't call his wins spectacular or proving that he deserved my picks but hey, he's moving on and Bomber is out (wtf?!) Inca, wtf were you thinking in those pvps
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 14:18:57
January 12 2012 14:16 GMT
#17
On January 11 2012 08:31 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 08:22 MrCon wrote:
I think you're underestimating Oz and Parting. It's true that Oz vs Curious is bad for Oz, but he should still beat anyone else in the group (Bomer included)


Partings placement is purely because of matchups. Do you think he can beat puzzle? if so he has a decent shot at advancing. I think puzzle takes that series 2 - 1 and then parting loses to nada because nada has good tvp.

Oz I explained gets fucked cause of matchups. ZvP is curious's strongest matchup and PvP is incas. I don't think Oz gets a chance to play bomber

Lol? since when is Puzzle an unbeatable god? He's got 1 result out of the ro32 of code S. Nada does not have good TvP. Wtf?

Also, I noticed this name on the liquibet rankings

57 11 MvPNoblesse

Could it be the real noblesse? Ofc it could obviously be some random person, but I don't see many people impersonating noblesse of all players.
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
January 12 2012 14:52 GMT
#18
On January 11 2012 08:31 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 08:22 MrCon wrote:
I think you're underestimating Oz and Parting. It's true that Oz vs Curious is bad for Oz, but he should still beat anyone else in the group (Bomer included)


Partings placement is purely because of matchups. Do you think he can beat puzzle? if so he has a decent shot at advancing. I think puzzle takes that series 2 - 1 and then parting loses to nada because nada has good tvp.

Oz I explained gets fucked cause of matchups. ZvP is curious's strongest matchup and PvP is incas. I don't think Oz gets a chance to play bomber

Have you been watching KSL? Parting is one of the strongest up and coming protoss.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 12:18:03
January 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#19
I think i got JYP and Genius and bomber and oz mixed up lol happens all the time

Brown why you soooo bad today

There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
January 18 2012 12:23 GMT
#20
I hate how idra only plays 1 set and I don't get that. Everyone else plays like 2 sets but he only played 1!
Check out my guide to mechanics http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319876
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