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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 06 2012 20:58 GMT
#41
On January 07 2012 05:56 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 05:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
The moral of the story is to try something before saying you don't like it. I'm very surprised that went over your head haha


I know that's the intended moral of the story. But what about the unintended moral of the story: if people don't agree with you, harass them until they do. I mean geeze, that's how communism started! The little guy needs to learn to mind his own damn business.


It actually sounds like how capitalism started: creating a desire to want something even though the person never actually needs it or wants it.

Welcome to aggressive advertising campaigns :B
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
slam
Profile Joined May 2010
United States923 Posts
January 06 2012 20:58 GMT
#42
Also, I call bullshit.

This looks like a contribution to me.
I get it.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
January 06 2012 21:04 GMT
#43
On January 07 2012 05:58 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 05:56 TheToast wrote:
On January 07 2012 05:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
The moral of the story is to try something before saying you don't like it. I'm very surprised that went over your head haha


I know that's the intended moral of the story. But what about the unintended moral of the story: if people don't agree with you, harass them until they do. I mean geeze, that's how communism started! The little guy needs to learn to mind his own damn business.


It actually sounds like how capitalism started: creating a desire to want something even though the person never actually needs it or wants it.

Welcome to aggressive advertising campaigns :B


Lmao. Green Eggs and Ham is secretly a metaphor for the 1950s and 60s conservative aversion to welfare and social programs due to fears over the spread of totilitarian communist goverment. The big guy holds to the pervasive social beliefes that social welfare will inevitably lead to a socialist state that he will not like, therefore he refuses to partake of it. In fact going to extreme lengths to avoid it. Meanwhile the little guy represents social radicals, artists, and other refomers who are constantly trying to force new ideas and social systems upon a populace that refuses to try them due to unfounded beliefes about their eventual end.

But then the ham is green, so maybe it's a message about enviromentalism? Maybe the little guy is Al Gore? No no no I was right before.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 06 2012 21:06 GMT
#44
On January 07 2012 06:04 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 05:58 Torte de Lini wrote:
On January 07 2012 05:56 TheToast wrote:
On January 07 2012 05:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
The moral of the story is to try something before saying you don't like it. I'm very surprised that went over your head haha


I know that's the intended moral of the story. But what about the unintended moral of the story: if people don't agree with you, harass them until they do. I mean geeze, that's how communism started! The little guy needs to learn to mind his own damn business.


It actually sounds like how capitalism started: creating a desire to want something even though the person never actually needs it or wants it.

Welcome to aggressive advertising campaigns :B


Lmao. Green Eggs and Ham is secretly a metaphor for the 1950s and 60s conservative aversion to welfare and social programs due to fears over the spread of totilitarian communist goverment. The big guy holds to the pervasive social beliefes that social welfare will inevitably lead to a socialist state that he will not like, therefore he refuses to partake of it. In fact going to extreme lengths to avoid it. Meanwhile the little guy represents social radicals, artists, and other refomers who are constantly trying to force new ideas and social systems upon a populace that refuses to try them due to unfounded beliefes about their eventual end.

But then the ham is green, so maybe it's a message about enviromentalism? Maybe the little guy is Al Gore? No no no I was right before.


You could say that the big guy and the eggs are symoblisms of conflict theory and the little guy is a functionalist ahaha!
I love University Girl pseudo-intellectual thoughts!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Mr. Black
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States470 Posts
January 06 2012 21:10 GMT
#45
On January 07 2012 05:53 Torte de Lini wrote:
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On January 07 2012 05:51 Mr. Black wrote:
It's cool that there are people that only watch SC2 and don't play, but I don't understand these people. You might say, "People watch other sports that don't play them." To me the difference is that it takes effort to go outside and run around and risk injury and look ridiculous. It takes approximately the same physical effort to play sc2 as it does to watch streams.

While watching for its own sake is fun -- I do it all the time -- it would be less fun if I wasn't watching to try to add elements to my own gameplay. How do you appreciate an amazing marine split if you aren't yourself getting turned to green goo?


Sometimes the achievement of winning from another is equally as exhilirating as you have one yourself. Also, the players on streams can sometimes achieve what you can't do and makes for very exciting games. Exciting games with no effort or focused attention is a lot more appealing than 30-minute overly-drawn out frustrating games where you might get cheesed or all-in.

That's why some people watch and don't play.


Yeah, you are right of course. And I certainly can't deny that playing can be frustrating, or that my games are as exciting to watch as pro games -- shit, I get bored (and embarrassed) watching my own replays.

It just seems to me like a new level of laziness -- If what we are seeking is to be excited with no effort or focused attention, what kind of people are we?

Make more anything.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 06 2012 21:12 GMT
#46
On January 07 2012 06:10 Mr. Black wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 05:53 Torte de Lini wrote:
On January 07 2012 05:51 Mr. Black wrote:
It's cool that there are people that only watch SC2 and don't play, but I don't understand these people. You might say, "People watch other sports that don't play them." To me the difference is that it takes effort to go outside and run around and risk injury and look ridiculous. It takes approximately the same physical effort to play sc2 as it does to watch streams.

While watching for its own sake is fun -- I do it all the time -- it would be less fun if I wasn't watching to try to add elements to my own gameplay. How do you appreciate an amazing marine split if you aren't yourself getting turned to green goo?


Sometimes the achievement of winning from another is equally as exhilirating as you have one yourself. Also, the players on streams can sometimes achieve what you can't do and makes for very exciting games. Exciting games with no effort or focused attention is a lot more appealing than 30-minute overly-drawn out frustrating games where you might get cheesed or all-in.

That's why some people watch and don't play.


Yeah, you are right of course. And I certainly can't deny that playing can be frustrating, or that my games are as exciting to watch as pro games -- shit, I get bored (and embarrassed) watching my own replays.

It just seems to me like a new level of laziness -- If what we are seeking is to be excited with no effort or focused attention, what kind of people are we?



Watching a movie with lots of other people that has funny lines or good music feels a lot more fun than being isolated alone in your room playing out the movie on your own.

In both scenarios, you are alone. Only one gives the feeling that you aren't. It's not a question of laziness, but of what do you enjoy doing within your limited amount of time.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5872 Posts
January 06 2012 21:16 GMT
#47
Everyone in your position contributes implicitly by not saturating the website with incomprehensible "content" worthy of the battle.net forums.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
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