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Nestea vs Naniwa Korean Twitterstorm - Page 4

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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
December 13 2011 12:42 GMT
#61
On December 13 2011 21:40 TheHova wrote:
Choya of all people laughing at somebody like Naniwa for being a progamer is particularly amusing.


Why? Choya is awesome despite being primarily a coach.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12041 Posts
December 13 2011 12:42 GMT
#62
On December 13 2011 21:41 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:40 Qikz wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:39 zaii wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:37 SenorChang wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:37 coloursheep wrote:
GOM should take away his Code S seed for next season as a response to this travesty, players should be held to at least some standard and Naniwa falls well below that

Please explain to me logically how GOM would justify taking away his tournament spot in another tournament for doing a stupid strategy in a game that had no bearing on anything?


Throwing games is legal now


There's no rule about worker rushing. So he didn't throw the game he tried something and it failed.

Sure it's somewhat of a statement, but it's well within the rules.


yes sending all his probes and didn't bother to micro


They shouldn't have made him play the game. Worker rushing is still in rules. He lost by losing all his workers.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
decerto
Profile Joined November 2011
244 Posts
December 13 2011 12:42 GMT
#63
On December 13 2011 21:36 FinestHour wrote:
He doesnt deserve to be where he is at all.


Expect for the fact he does because hes better than everyone else who isnt where he is
coloursheep
Profile Joined May 2011
China497 Posts
December 13 2011 12:42 GMT
#64
On December 13 2011 21:37 SenorChang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:37 coloursheep wrote:
GOM should take away his Code S seed for next season as a response to this travesty, players should be held to at least some standard and Naniwa falls well below that

Please explain to me logically how GOM would justify taking away his tournament spot in another tournament for doing a stupid strategy in a game that had no bearing on anything?


To send a message to players that playing in the most prestigious tournament in the world is a privilege and players must respect that, Naniwa was given a seed by them into not one but two tournaments and how does he repay them? By essentially throwing a match, the most hyped match of the night. It does not matter that it was a dead rubber his actions in that game should not be promoted they should be punished. GOM has removed players from their tournaments before for bad behavior and they should do it again in this case.
chokke
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 12:43:48
December 13 2011 12:42 GMT
#65
On December 13 2011 21:37 coloursheep wrote:
GOM should take away his Code S seed for next season as a response to this travesty, players should be held to at least some standard and Naniwa falls well below that

So should MMA in the game vs Naniwa,
Proxy Thor, how disrespectful to the game.

What a shame these cheeses.

It's a (bad) strat so if anything, he can be hated bnyt people, but not organisations

If anything, they should've asked if the players wnated to skip the game since it wouldn't mean anything anyway
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
December 13 2011 12:43 GMT
#66
LOL @Choya
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 12:43:39
December 13 2011 12:43 GMT
#67
On December 13 2011 21:41 Ventor wrote:
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On December 13 2011 21:39 FXOpen wrote:
You don't enter korea and act like that. Its very much anti korean mentality. You are gonna piss a bunch of people off doing that.

I usually don't agree with things you say but I have to side with you on this. When you go to a foreign country, learn their customs and do not disrespect them, since you are a guest in their country and community. Poor quantic is going to cop a lot of bad publicity from this, won't be surprised if Naniwa is kicked from the team because of this.

So I guess that matchfixing by byun and coca at the ESV Korean Weekly was okay and not against the korean mentality? Because I'm telling you, people were a lot less upset about this.

And Naniwa broke NO rule at all while those 2 guys basically opened the box of pandora
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
December 13 2011 12:43 GMT
#68
On December 13 2011 21:39 FXOpen wrote:
You don't enter korea and act like that. Its very much anti korean mentality. You are gonna piss a bunch of people off doing that.

You should be criticising Naniwa less and controlling your players to not make ridiculous attacks on other players in public more.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
decerto
Profile Joined November 2011
244 Posts
December 13 2011 12:43 GMT
#69
On December 13 2011 21:42 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:40 TheHova wrote:
Choya of all people laughing at somebody like Naniwa for being a progamer is particularly amusing.


Why? Choya is awesome despite being primarily a coach.


Because the reason he is a coach is because he played rock paper scissors for ladder points
ChowChillaCharlie
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden677 Posts
December 13 2011 12:43 GMT
#70
NaNiWa countinues his streak of causing drama all over the place.
imMUTAble787
Profile Joined November 2011
United States680 Posts
December 13 2011 12:43 GMT
#71
I wonder if Quantic is having buyer's remorse ? Lol.
*eternalenvy fanboy*
Kazuki
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands121 Posts
December 13 2011 12:43 GMT
#72
He sure knows how to make enemies... He's been in Korea for a relatively short period of time, and already several teams dislike the guy :p

People saying Naniwa has a good 'winner' attitude and stuff like that, but if he keeps on doing this he's not gonna get much more chances actually becoming one. What an idiotic move. Pfft
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 12:45:39
December 13 2011 12:43 GMT
#73
On December 13 2011 21:42 coddan wrote:
I think it's a tad bit hypocritical of Choya since he is one of very few who have actually been banned from GSL in the past for cheating the system


Seriously... he was "banned" for a season (i think) because he played some games on ladder with rock paper scissors, it had nothing to do with gsl.
Naniwa is continuing to burn bridge.
You can't behave like this and expect anything from people. Maybe he should ask himself why people in the mvp house didn't want to play games with him?
ionize
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Ireland399 Posts
December 13 2011 12:43 GMT
#74
Disrespectful, yes. Out of bounds, no. It was a legit move after all.
I just love video games, what's your excuse?
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
December 13 2011 12:44 GMT
#75
Not surprised. Naniwa might be one of the best foreigners, but he's still a punk kid.
Djeez
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 12:44:55
December 13 2011 12:44 GMT
#76
People need to get a sense of perspective and realize that there's things that matter more in the world. Sure, it's disappointing that we didn't get to watch a potentially great match, but forcing players to play a showmatch after they bombed a tournament that they practiced hard for... well things like this can happen.

Some of the things I've read are straight up sickening towards Naniwa. The ones who did need to leave the house and leave their internet bubble once in a while, and realize that there is bigger injustices out there than you not being able to watch a starcraft game.
''Watching steppes of war in the gsl would be like watching the dreamhack 1.6 finals start out on fy_iceworld. '' -red_b
SaoPaulo
Profile Joined December 2011
Brazil62 Posts
December 13 2011 12:44 GMT
#77
On December 13 2011 21:42 iggyfisk wrote:
Reminder that sports is showbiz. Naniwa is a professional entertainer. That guy that keeps getting 10k+ viewers the second he puts his stream up, what's he known for again? The next time Naniwa and Nestea are scheduled to play, do you think people will turn off the stream because of all the "disrespect"?

Naniwa never got 10k viewers... Only players who gets these kind of viewers are Idra, Day9 and Stephano is on the right track to get the same
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
December 13 2011 12:44 GMT
#78
Throwing the game = BM

Community reaction = completely ridiculous just as expected
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
December 13 2011 12:44 GMT
#79
On December 13 2011 21:42 chokke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:37 coloursheep wrote:
GOM should take away his Code S seed for next season as a response to this travesty, players should be held to at least some standard and Naniwa falls well below that

So should MMA in the game vs Naniwa,
Proxy Thor, how disrespectful to the game.

What a shame these cheeses.

It's a (bad) strat so if anything, he can be hated bnyt people, but not organisations

If anything, they should've asked if the players wnated to skip the game since it wouldn't mean anything anyway


Aimed at an apple, shot the moon. 100% logical disconnect.
Logic is Overrated
GG2EZ
Profile Joined October 2011
46 Posts
December 13 2011 12:44 GMT
#80
LOL why everyone cares about that match...srsly why even cast game betwen two players who are allready out.....jeeez
sup brohan
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