• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:21
CEST 18:21
KST 01:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20258Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202577RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18
Community News
Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced24BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 I offer completely free coaching services What tournaments are world championships?
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025 $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava
Brood War
General
Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced [Update] ShieldBattery: 2025 Redesign Dewalt's Show Matches in China BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting Does 1 second matter in StarCraft?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 757 users

New video series on eSports production values

Blogs > moge
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
moge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 22:28:11
December 13 2011 00:14 GMT
#1


edit: episode 1 is up. I'm looking at the new show Bossfight.tv.


Hello all!
I am starting a new series on eSports production values. In this series I'm going to look at different shows, events, casts and streams and discuss, strictly from a production perspective, some of the things they are doing right and take a look at some of the things they can possibly improve on.

Why?
It seems that after every event there is either pitchforks or praise about one thing or another. I want to add constructive critique to that conversation. I want to be able to look at what works and why it works. I want to be able to explain those working mechanics, the thought process and the how of those working pieces so that other events, other casts and other shows might take those working ideas and incorporate them into their own production. I also want to look at those things that could have been done better. I want to let hindsight tell us the lessons learned of an event or show. I want to constructively add my 2cents in an attempt to make that production better.

Why now?
I've had this idea of a while now. After each show (or during, even) when pitchforks are flying it seems like any additive discussion is lost in the den or overwhelming negativity. What kicked my ass into finally starting this was iNcontrol's post about adding to the community. I’m a terrible player, I could never be a caster but I am a pretty darn good producer. This is my contribution. This is how I can add value to eSports. This is my positive addition in an effort to make this community even better.

Why you?
I talk over my ‘resume’ in the linked video. The TL;DR version is that I have been working in production for close to 20 years. I have produced huge events, I have produced micro-budget productions, I have worked on some of the largest sets for the most popular TV shows. I don’t always have the best ideas but I do have a knack for dissecting why good ideas work and helping productions that need some production ‘guidance’.

Goals
I guess the most important thing to note is that I am looking to add positive critique into the eSports production conversation. Pitchforks are great for calling out what is wrong but they also do very little to help that wrong get fixed. My goal is to look at all types of shows. I’ll look at shows that are doing it right and talk about hwo they are pulling it off and I’ll be looking at things that could use a little ‘help’.

Check out the intro video. I’ll be uploading my first episode in a few days.

GG!

Jason


****
gentle lover of esports - Product Manager for http://iHearteSports.com
Sp1der
Profile Joined August 2011
United States96 Posts
December 13 2011 00:24 GMT
#2
sounds awesome man! interested to see how this goes. gl hf
"If I don't sweat again today, I will be crying tears tomorrow"
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
December 13 2011 00:32 GMT
#3
I'll watch it later, seems like a good idea.
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
trias_e
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States520 Posts
December 13 2011 02:33 GMT
#4
I hope that e-sports producers bookmark this thread. Free info from someone that knows what they talk about? This is a good thing.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
December 13 2011 03:12 GMT
#5
Great initiative, looking forward to the first episode.

Also, I've never heard anyone pronounce ESPORTS that way, but I think I like it better lol
Moderator
lazyfeet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States468 Posts
December 13 2011 03:13 GMT
#6
Your voice remind me of Dr. Spencer Reid from criminal minds.
LUCK is What Happens When Preparation Meets Opportunity.......
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
December 13 2011 04:03 GMT
#7
Interesting o.o I hope event organizers take notes
Also you sound really passionate about your ... field of work (?). <3
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 13 2011 04:04 GMT
#8
I'll be keeping an eye on this.
QuantumPope
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada76 Posts
December 13 2011 04:12 GMT
#9
If you would ever like to do a discussion with another person about the matter I have a lot to say on it. I have three years of experience in the film industry and like you have done many jobs on set and off. Send a PM if you'd like to get in contact.
www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv || sc2l.gg || d2l.gg || www.twitter.com/QuantumPope ||
ES_JohnClark
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1121 Posts
December 13 2011 04:20 GMT
#10
wow.. he sounds so much like the guy from the MAC video years back that was a huge hit on YouTube..

here is link.. omfg.. he sounds so much like him! HERE is LINK!

Still Naked!
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 13 2011 04:21 GMT
#11
Looking forward to it!
Thank God and gunrun.
ES_JohnClark
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1121 Posts
December 13 2011 04:29 GMT
#12
Great stuff moge -- Make sure you hit up the CSN stuff too.. we want the criticism.. it will only make us want to do better!
Still Naked!
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
December 13 2011 04:33 GMT
#13
Looks cool will check it out!
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
TheWahbinator
Profile Joined September 2010
United States131 Posts
December 13 2011 04:52 GMT
#14
I really like this idea and already showed interest into contributing to this via PM. Let's get the word out to make sure that this is an important part of what makes pro-gaming a mass appeal from the audience perspective.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
December 13 2011 11:45 GMT
#15
Will definitely tune in.
Administrator
moge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 13 2011 13:16 GMT
#16
Thanks everyone! It's encouraging to see this kind of support. The first episode should be going up this afternoon and will be on BossFight.TV. Anyone has suggestions for shows let me know.
gentle lover of esports - Product Manager for http://iHearteSports.com
MIhata
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria156 Posts
December 13 2011 14:09 GMT
#17
Good luck! I Defianitely tune in.
"Very important caster" - MC about himself. | MC | Boxer | Grubby | Jangbi | MMA | Polt | InCa | Symbol |
ES_JohnClark
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1121 Posts
December 13 2011 16:10 GMT
#18
moge, do you have any hype on what the first episode will be about? I would love to spread the word.
Still Naked!
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
December 13 2011 16:50 GMT
#19
Okay, let me be the dick in here and say that your audio is maxed out. It makes you hard to understand and the audio flutters. Try using a dedicated mic, recording low and boosting in post. As it is now, it's hard to listen too and since your content is mostly audio, it should not be that hard to listen to.
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
moge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 13 2011 17:52 GMT
#20
On December 14 2011 01:50 jacen wrote:
Okay, let me be the dick in here and say that your audio is maxed out. It makes you hard to understand and the audio flutters. Try using a dedicated mic, recording low and boosting in post. As it is now, it's hard to listen too and since your content is mostly audio, it should not be that hard to listen to.


totally agree. I'm using a new webcam for this and the first 2 episodes *intro and ep1" both have crappy audio. That is fixed, and talked about, in ep2.
Thanks for the feedback!
gentle lover of esports - Product Manager for http://iHearteSports.com
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
14:00
Bracket Day 2 - Final
LiquipediaDiscussion
FEL
09:00
Cracow 2025
Clem vs SKillousLIVE!
Reynor vs Lambo
RotterdaM2738
ComeBackTV 2017
IndyStarCraft 645
WardiTV467
CranKy Ducklings217
Rex167
3DClanTV 148
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 2738
IndyStarCraft 645
Rex 167
BRAT_OK 65
MindelVK 39
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 38939
Barracks 1338
EffOrt 1236
Larva 955
Nal_rA 594
BeSt 547
Stork 489
firebathero 358
Shine 266
Rush 184
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 182
Dewaltoss 155
Hyun 97
Movie 95
sorry 63
Sharp 55
sSak 44
zelot 42
Shinee 34
Free 28
yabsab 18
Terrorterran 17
IntoTheRainbow 7
Dota 2
Gorgc6982
qojqva4030
420jenkins396
Counter-Strike
fl0m2969
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor608
Liquid`Hasu226
Other Games
Beastyqt1757
Hui .331
Fuzer 189
QueenE123
KnowMe121
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 45
• StrangeGG 18
• Legendk 10
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV759
League of Legends
• Jankos1583
Counter-Strike
• Nemesis1738
Upcoming Events
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1h 39m
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Wardi Open
18h 39m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 17h
WardiTV European League
1d 23h
Online Event
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
BSL 20 Team Wars
FEL Cracov 2025
CC Div. A S7
Underdog Cup #2
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.