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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24747 Posts
November 22 2011 04:19 GMT
#21
I enjoyed reading this. Incontrol has always struck me as someone who is a strong advocate for the growth of E-sports... even before the term was coined. We may have had our differences but I salute you for this (going to try to reach out to the fanny pack market)
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Brosy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States254 Posts
November 22 2011 04:20 GMT
#22
I agree with this post. 5/5.

I would love to see instead of a monthly tourney on ESPN2, a foreign proleague, or restructured GSL more along the lines of BW. ESPN could have 4 or so matches a week to show.
txi.TheReaper
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4 Posts
November 22 2011 04:20 GMT
#23
iNcontrol. I shall retweet this and post it on facebook. I hope more people start supporting SC2 and even esports in general. Many people look at esports and scoff, they think it's nothing big. They don't really look at it and it's time we start turning heads and making people do a double take. Together.
jake9790
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6 Posts
November 22 2011 04:20 GMT
#24
This is a great post! I agree with all of it!

At this point it is up to the community to take this game to the next level.
effervescent
Profile Joined May 2011
United States47 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 04:22:31
November 22 2011 04:22 GMT
#25
Retweeted and will post to my blog!

These are all really good ideas. I will definitely do my part to try and help esports/starcraft keep expanding by doing some of the things you suggested.
kill or be killed.
atavist
Profile Joined August 2011
2 Posts
November 22 2011 04:22 GMT
#26
Great call to action. Keep up the passion, it's infectious!
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 04:27:34
November 22 2011 04:23 GMT
#27
it's "you may SAY i'm a dreamer"

1/5

edit:

On November 22 2011 13:25 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 13:23 prplhz wrote:
it's "you may SAY i'm a dreamer"

1/5


Fixed

And yes I know about "modest proposal" it's a play on words for me.


Okay 5/5 then. Good thing I voted that in the first place anyway.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
November 22 2011 04:24 GMT
#28
Couldn't think of a better person to pass along that message. Well done!
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
MHZero
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2 Posts
November 22 2011 04:24 GMT
#29
Great stuff you have written here, very well done and very true. I know I'll take this to heart and do my part to contribute. I bought my last keyboard, mouse, and headset because of SC2 team sponsorships and just today a friend was looking for a new headset and I recommended Steelseries because of EG, but I know I can do more and will try to. Keep it up Geoff, you're the best.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
November 22 2011 04:24 GMT
#30
a modest proposal
Tremor
Profile Joined February 2010
United States92 Posts
November 22 2011 04:24 GMT
#31
i love the inspiration thanks so much.
Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac? - George Carlin
FaiL_SaFe
Profile Joined February 2011
United States104 Posts
November 22 2011 04:25 GMT
#32
On November 22 2011 13:20 Brosy wrote:
I agree with this post. 5/5.

I would love to see instead of a monthly tourney on ESPN2, a foreign proleague, or restructured GSL more along the lines of BW. ESPN could have 4 or so matches a week to show.


I have to agree with this. I think that a proleague style format could be a great deal more conducive to a television environment than would individual tournaments. Either that or an OSL style format. I could see a Starleague-style format also working quite well on TV.

Individual tourney's such as IPL or MLG tend to take up entire weekends and there really isn't a way for a TV network to justify devoting an entire weekend to that kind of thing. MLG's and such are vastly better geared for their current format (although MLG or IPL with ESPN level production would be amazing) but I could definitely see an OSL or proleague style system working great.

iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 22 2011 04:25 GMT
#33
On November 22 2011 13:23 prplhz wrote:
it's "you may SAY i'm a dreamer"

1/5


Fixed

And yes I know about "modest proposal" it's a play on words for me.
aguy38
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
131 Posts
November 22 2011 04:25 GMT
#34
Sick write up. Also, when are you going to start streaming again or I have just been missing it? You are one of my favorite streams to watch.
AZKziek
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia64 Posts
November 22 2011 04:26 GMT
#35
Hallelujah!
spacebob42
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States78 Posts
November 22 2011 04:26 GMT
#36
I don't understand how TV coverage is viewed as such a desirable achievement, though.


My thought on the matter is that TV is a lot more accessible to many people than a stream, of any kind. Also, television as a broadcast medium is generally more accessible than the internet. This would also reach many sporting communities, the kinds of people whose TV is stuck to ESPN.

Also, great post Geoff!
Go big or go home.
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
November 22 2011 04:26 GMT
#37
I truly believe that you are the most passionate person in the SC2 scene. Keep it up man, eSports needs strong leaders like yourself to continue its growth.

On an unrelated note, it was a pleasure to get to meet and chat with you at Providence. Forever a fan my friend <3
duckyR
Profile Joined September 2010
United States93 Posts
November 22 2011 04:28 GMT
#38
Great post, looking towards a brighter 2012 for Starcraft 2.
Wings of Liberty
Ulquiorra
Profile Joined August 2011
United States4 Posts
November 22 2011 04:29 GMT
#39
5/5 Amazing post, I hope that people read this and it really makes them think about how everyone in the community can have a hand in making this game even better ^-^
"Hi"
txi.TheReaper
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4 Posts
November 22 2011 04:30 GMT
#40
"Please read, even if you think eSports is something stupid. Just read it. Otherwise, quite frankly, you're missing out. iNcontroL brought up good points, and I do believe we should all support this man's ideals. And if you don't know what he's talking about. I encourage you to learn more about the games that eSports revolves around, watch some streams, really focus on it. You'll realize that eSports has a lot more potential than you think."

It's what I wrote on Facebook. I know many of my friends on there hear me talk about MLG and all that and are like "What's that?" I link them to the streams and they have no clue what's going on but watch anyway. Hopefully this gets a little more involvement with esports.
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