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DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
October 25 2011 19:05 GMT
#1
I say USA and not NA because to be fair Canada has a tons more skill than the US.

But anyway i had a sudden Epiphany of how the US is possibly, just as if not more influential to E-Sports than the rest of the foreign community. With out directly supporting skilled players (Few exceptions of course ex. IdrA...) the US dishes possibly the most money for tournaments at lesat major tournaments (all the small EU tournaments do add up eventually) for ex. NASL and MLG.

The US also has the greatest people to offer E-Sports I will list my personal favorites sorry if i miss some.

Day9
Tasteless
Artosis
Husky
DJ Wheat
Painuser (im actually not sure )
Tyler
Incontrol
HuK (Dual citizen so eh)

But thats just off the top of my head so although US may suck at PLAYING SC were the best in keeping it entertaining.

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*Yes this is literally just a rebuttal to all the EU's who always put down the NA ladder and it makes me sad

I know this is literally a NA vs EU but its not my intention just my blog and im pointing out how useful the US is useful to SC2 because as of late i've always been wondering what the US does to help out E-Sports

Flame if you want eh i dont really care just pointing out that we suck player wise but personality wise we excel

*
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
October 25 2011 19:09 GMT
#2
This thread is so bait.
I don't think you can say the personalities are better but feel free to say they contribute good personalities..... go canada!
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
October 25 2011 19:10 GMT
#3
It helps that US is a larger country that also has the advantage of a shared language that most people in EU can understand, while only select people in NA can understand usually only a single European language. In otherwords, US has the advantage of a larger people pool and a far wider potential audience.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
October 25 2011 19:10 GMT
#4
I see great things for the future of this thread.

Also, as an American, it hurts me that a whole post is dedicated to the fact that we are the ugly girls in high school but underneath it all we are really nice.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
October 25 2011 19:11 GMT
#5
Canada has Torte de Lini.
Always smile~
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
October 25 2011 19:12 GMT
#6
On October 26 2011 04:10 Charger wrote:
I see great things for the future of this thread.

Also, as an American, it hurts me that a whole post is dedicated to the fact that we are the ugly girls in high school but underneath it all we are really nice.


I didn't think of it like that but it made me lol so thank you.

Plays against every MU with nexus first.
meowmeow-
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany291 Posts
October 25 2011 19:12 GMT
#7
I think you are spot on, I can't think of a singular community person in Europa that is even close to the casters you mentioned.

Never even thought of it that way.
Life is short, waste it wisely.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
October 25 2011 19:13 GMT
#8
idra?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
October 25 2011 19:13 GMT
#9
On October 26 2011 04:09 ComaDose wrote:
This thread is so bait.
I don't think you can say the personalities are better but feel free to say they contribute good personalities..... go canada!


your right i didn't mean it like as a USA WE ARE BETTER PEOPLE i meant just the selected amount of people contributing to E-sports

There are lots of shitty americans such as me who made this thread to just boast about america
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 25 2011 19:17 GMT
#10
You forgot #1 American.
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 25 2011 19:19 GMT
#11
Didn't see my name. Voted 1.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
jupidar
Profile Joined December 2010
United States229 Posts
October 25 2011 19:23 GMT
#12
k why does everyone think esports = sc2. outside of sc2, europe is probably a way bigger influence on esports overall...
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
October 25 2011 19:30 GMT
#13
No Flamewheel?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 25 2011 19:35 GMT
#14
Blizzard is a US company?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
October 25 2011 19:37 GMT
#15
You forgot IdrA
Treating eSports as a social science since 2011; Credo: "The system is never wrong"-- Day9 Daily #400 Part 3
Gofarman
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada646 Posts
October 25 2011 19:38 GMT
#16
On October 26 2011 04:11 Spekulatius wrote:
Canada has Torte de Lini.

Canada has Chill
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
October 25 2011 19:41 GMT
#17
On October 26 2011 04:38 Gofarman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 04:11 Spekulatius wrote:
Canada has Torte de Lini.

Canada has Chill

Canada has Gofarman

And Torte de Lini is Swiss.
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DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
October 25 2011 19:41 GMT
#18
On October 26 2011 04:12 meowmeow- wrote:
I think you are spot on, I can't think of a singular community person in Europa that is even close to the casters you mentioned.

Never even thought of it that way.


to be fair im a fan of Rotterdam hes pretty hilarious guy
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
mrafaeldie12
Profile Joined July 2011
Brazil537 Posts
October 25 2011 19:49 GMT
#19
LET THE FLAME WARS BEGIN

Seriously why are americans always so sassy with superiority remarks?"HEY GUYZ E-SPORTZ IS BETTER IN THE U.S JUST SAYIN'.
"..it all comes thumbling down thumbling down thumblin down"
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
October 25 2011 19:53 GMT
#20
So much of this sounds like an inferiority complex though I can't determine who it's for.. probally because the complex isn't justified.
Please make more structured threads man, even the discussing is so random and offtopic
And say NA cus people won't complain half as much
In the woods, there lurks..
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
October 25 2011 19:53 GMT
#21
On October 26 2011 04:05 DreamChaser wrote:

Day9
Tasteless
Artosis
Husky
DJ Wheat
Painuser (im actually not sure )
Tyler
Incontrol
HuK (Dual citizen so eh)



I just noticed that when you put Tyler and Incontrol next to each other in a list like that, it's easy to read 'Tylenol'
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 20:03:11
October 25 2011 19:53 GMT
#22
On October 26 2011 04:49 mrafaeldie12 wrote:
LET THE FLAME WARS BEGIN

Seriously why are americans always so sassy with superiority remarks?"HEY GUYZ E-SPORTZ IS BETTER IN THE U.S JUST SAYIN'.


Its literally just a superiority complex, like in every country you learn your countries history America has never lost a war (Vietnam-->Conflict) and through out american history WW1 and WW2 its always America saves the European (thats debatable of course i'm just stating how it was in textbooks) but when your growing up i guess i never thought about it but when your in class with fellow americans and the teacher goes well after the collapse of the Soviet Union the US if the only super power remaining thats the complex.

Of course this doesn't apply to everyone thats more of my own personal experience

And i never said E-sports was better in the US just saying how we contribute to the scene less with players more with supporting actions.

* I sound like a barin washed american haha but i understand all to well the dark secrets of America (Slavery, Native Americas etc...) so its not like im just AMERICA IS THE BEST its just nationalism.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
October 25 2011 19:55 GMT
#23
On October 26 2011 04:53 Iplaythings wrote:
So much of this sounds like an inferiority complex though I can't determine who it's for.. probally because the complex isn't justified.
Please make more structured threads man, even the discussing is so random and offtopic
And say NA cus people won't complain half as much


I'm sorry it was a spur of the moment and i just typed it all in haha sorry if its difficult for you to catch my points.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
Zazzles
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Slovakia153 Posts
October 25 2011 20:00 GMT
#24
Europe has White-Ra.......
"Fortune favors the bold"
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
October 25 2011 20:02 GMT
#25
On October 26 2011 05:00 Zazzles wrote:
Europe has White-Ra.......


I agree White-Ra is a boss and my favorite Toss to he honest.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24751 Posts
October 25 2011 20:02 GMT
#26
On October 26 2011 04:49 mrafaeldie12 wrote:
LET THE FLAME WARS BEGIN

Seriously why are americans always so sassy with superiority remarks?"HEY GUYZ E-SPORTZ IS BETTER IN THE U.S JUST SAYIN'.

Generalization much? Americans are always sassy with superiority remarks? This isn't helping the already doomed thread lol
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hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
October 25 2011 20:06 GMT
#27
On October 26 2011 04:41 DreamChaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 04:12 meowmeow- wrote:
I think you are spot on, I can't think of a singular community person in Europa that is even close to the casters you mentioned.

Never even thought of it that way.


to be fair im a fan of Rotterdam hes pretty hilarious guy


Khaldor is pretty cool too. And the guy who did the Homestory cups (sry, can't remember the name). And Nazgul, duh.

But yeah, there seems to be a group of Americans who did a lot for ESPORTS when SC2 came out.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
October 25 2011 20:07 GMT
#28
On October 26 2011 05:02 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 04:49 mrafaeldie12 wrote:
LET THE FLAME WARS BEGIN

Seriously why are americans always so sassy with superiority remarks?"HEY GUYZ E-SPORTZ IS BETTER IN THE U.S JUST SAYIN'.

Generalization much? Americans are always sassy with superiority remarks? This isn't helping the already doomed thread lol


Thats ok, i knew this thread wouldn't go somewhere productive its just my rant trying to protect my virtual pride over the internet which really doesnt mean much.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
October 25 2011 20:08 GMT
#29
On October 26 2011 05:06 hypercube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 04:41 DreamChaser wrote:
On October 26 2011 04:12 meowmeow- wrote:
I think you are spot on, I can't think of a singular community person in Europa that is even close to the casters you mentioned.

Never even thought of it that way.


to be fair im a fan of Rotterdam hes pretty hilarious guy


Khaldor is pretty cool too. And the guy who did the Homestory cups (sry, can't remember the name). And Nazgul, duh.

But yeah, there seems to be a group of Americans who did a lot for ESPORTS when SC2 came out.


Oh right Khalador the only thing i remember about him is his bald head and how he opened the beer bottle using the table and i thought THIS guy smashes nerd face haha.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 20:10:25
October 25 2011 20:09 GMT
#30
What was this blogs catalyst; that hurt your pride?
What I mean to say is I've never felt unjustly insulted for being American without the person being temp'd eventually.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32098 Posts
October 25 2011 20:53 GMT
#31
On October 26 2011 05:08 DreamChaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 05:06 hypercube wrote:
On October 26 2011 04:41 DreamChaser wrote:
On October 26 2011 04:12 meowmeow- wrote:
I think you are spot on, I can't think of a singular community person in Europa that is even close to the casters you mentioned.

Never even thought of it that way.


to be fair im a fan of Rotterdam hes pretty hilarious guy


Khaldor is pretty cool too. And the guy who did the Homestory cups (sry, can't remember the name). And Nazgul, duh.

But yeah, there seems to be a group of Americans who did a lot for ESPORTS when SC2 came out.


Oh right Khalador the only thing i remember about him is his bald head and how he opened the beer bottle using the table and i thought THIS guy smashes nerd face haha.


Considering that you've never seen a beer bottle opened on a table before, I guess it kind of makes sense that it took you this long to realize that a big ass country with a lot of influence and a lot of money might kind of be important to the scene

keep on rockin' brah
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aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
October 25 2011 21:16 GMT
#32
You also be having moonlanding, HBO, Intel Pentium computer.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 25 2011 21:32 GMT
#33
Personally I do find it amusing how Americans are generalized. 3rd largest country in the world in population; 4th in size; and yet we're almost always generalized as one group.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 22:06:03
October 25 2011 22:02 GMT
#34
Didn't you know, Tasteless, Artosis and HuK are Korean?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Khyrandor
Profile Joined February 2009
Czech Republic158 Posts
October 25 2011 22:10 GMT
#35
On October 26 2011 05:00 Zazzles wrote:
Europe has White-Ra.......

Came here to say this.
fan of Chill, ToT)Mondragon(, ret, Jaedong, Day[9], DjWHEAT, White-Ra, Jinro, R1CH and TL and after TSL3 Ro32 Mondragon again... R.I.P. ToT
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