On October 15 2011 01:20 shinosai wrote:
Well, Earth is the best of all possible worlds. Therefore, Heaven is no better than Earth. And, really, Earth seems like the worst of all possible worlds. This world is nothing but an eternal suffering, with true happiness being an impossibility. For the moment one desire is fulfilled, another ten arise, and any moment of happiness is succeeded by suffering. Therefore, Hell is just like Earth. Hell is the best of all possible worlds.

Seems like Hell is okay after all.

Well don't forget, there's also the burning fire and demons tearing people apart stories...and the whole imagery of maggots crawling out of eyes etc. Anyways the point is, I think it would be a pretty painful place. Not just like an underground city with all the prostitutes and gay people and what not, and they just have parties because why not. I'm sure that eternal torment is justified in other meaningful ways, not just because other "negative" people are there.

I love that sign

shinosai

United States1577 Posts

October 14 2011 16:40 GMT

#23

On October 15 2011 01:30 radscorpion9 wrote:

Show nested quote +

You seem to indicate that there is a "worse" kind of suffering than the suffering experienced on Earth. But this doesn't really make sense, because in the afterlife we lose our physical bodies. Hell and Heaven, as I recall, are supposed to be spiritual places. The worst kind of suffering as defined by the Bible is separation from God - a spiritual suffering. Therefore, once again, Hell is no worse than Earth.

Lemonwalrus

United States5465 Posts

October 14 2011 16:41 GMT

#24

My 'revelation' about hell is really something I stole from a comedian. Basically, both hell and heaven are supposed to be eternal right? Well, give someone long enough and they will get used to anything...something good will become monotonous, and something bad will become bearable...so really, as time approaches infinity, both heaven and hell become boring.

Then again I'm an atheist so I don't really believe either one exists...just food for thought.

Treemonkeys

United States2082 Posts

October 14 2011 16:50 GMT

#25

On October 15 2011 01:41 Lemonwalrus wrote:
My 'revelation' about hell is really something I stole from a comedian. Basically, both hell and heaven are supposed to be eternal right? Well, give someone long enough and they will get used to anything...something good will become monotonous, and something bad will become bearable...so really, as time approaches infinity, both heaven and hell become boring.

Then again I'm an atheist so I don't really believe either one exists...just food for thought.

As a child the church actually taught me that this wouldn't work. lol

mrafaeldie12

Brazil537 Posts

October 14 2011 18:14 GMT

#26

You only have one life to live.Don't waste it.

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

October 14 2011 18:21 GMT

#27

On October 14 2011 23:50 Arthemesia wrote:
If hell exists then everyone goes there

Hahahaha thats what I'm thinking =p Pretty crowded place.

surfinbird1

Germany999 Posts

October 14 2011 18:57 GMT

#28

Jim Jefferies? Love the guy.
Also, hell isn't real. As far as I can tell most educated theologians don't even take it seriously. At least that's what a minister told me. And as an atheist I don't believe it to be real.

IndoorSpawningPool

United States99 Posts

October 14 2011 19:03 GMT

#29

At least murderers didn't make the list

Luepert

United States1933 Posts

October 15 2011 01:45 GMT

#30

I heard from some Greek dude that there's pretty decent dining there, see you tonight!!!!

don_kyuhote

3006 Posts

October 15 2011 05:03 GMT

#31

chances are there will be more people you don't like than people you like there.

Probe1

United States17920 Posts

October 15 2011 07:01 GMT

#32

On October 15 2011 01:21 Torte de Lini wrote:
If you hate a lot of people around you, Hell wouldn't be so great.

Now that all depends on whether there's a promotion opportunity in the tar pit. It'd certainly be a nice way to let off steam in eternity to whip your enemies.

Coagulation

United States9633 Posts

October 15 2011 08:13 GMT

#33

Something I always found interesting about the heaven and hell thing. From my understanding according to the bible satan was at one time an angel of heaven but he was banished from heaven when he questioned gods reasoning and ways.

Then the bible goes on to describe satan as a ruler of a fiery pit of pain suffering and torment. However what people dont really take into consideration is that the bible was "written by god" I have a hard time imagining that god would have anything good to say about satan when he is writing his story and he comes to the part where he went to war with satan and cast him away and then satan went and did his OWN thing without GOD then it would be pretty reasonable to speculate that GOD is biased in describing the conditions of hell due to his own inherit nature of wanting people to pray to him instead of satan.

I have a feeling Satan just opened up shop in hell AKA *an alternative heaven* for less uptight people to reside in an afterlife of banging hookers and drinking 40z. And If you think about it the only reasonable thing for god to do would be to slander hell and scare people from wanting to go there.

I know damn well I would do the same thing if I was in gods shoes or sandals or w.e the fuck he wears.. Im not gonna sit around and let all the people on earth go and worship satan in hell and leave me sitting around forever alone while everyone else is partying down and shit.. Im gonna do whatever I have to do to make sure people want to go to heaven instead of hell. And what better way to make people inclined to avoid it than to tell everyone its on fire. Its a classic way to discourage people from wanting to go there.
God aint fucking stupid he knows the power of propaganda. And he also knows how much people HATE to be on fire. Also Lemonwalrus.

zdragon

United States150 Posts

October 15 2011 09:14 GMT

#34

heaven is an idiotic idea

what's so good about heaven?
and can you imagine doing whatever you do there for eternity?

death is much more peaceful than any eternal life.

TabyLing

Australia69 Posts

October 15 2011 13:22 GMT

#35

not believing in an afterlife i see hell as dying with regrets about your life. Live to the fullest die happy, and there lies heaven.

turdburgler

England6749 Posts

October 15 2011 13:52 GMT

#36

On October 15 2011 00:33 intrigue wrote:
"heaven for the climate, hell for the company"

you obviously havent read the proof that heaven is hotter than hell :p

http://www.cybercelebrations.com/Valentines/Heavens_hot.html

Lemonwalrus

United States5465 Posts

October 15 2011 16:45 GMT

#37

On October 15 2011 17:13 Coagulation wrote:
God aint fucking stupid he knows the power of propaganda. And he also knows how much people HATE to be on fire. Also Lemonwalrus.

sup?

On October 15 2011 03:57 surfinbird1 wrote:

Show nested quote +

Jim Jefferies? Love the guy.

Yes sir, and so do I.

Cyclone999

Canada331 Posts

October 15 2011 17:39 GMT

#38

I remember I read a book about a missionary having a vision of going into Hell; the book is called "23 Minutes in Hell" and it was quite a read. It seemed to be accepted amongst various Christian communities; but others, no.

Either way, it's a pretty interesting read and if you guys are really curious, you guys should check it out; because personally I don't find going to Hell as being "awesome".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_Minutes_In_Hell

It goes into greater detail, if you guys wanna search it up on Google, wikipedia doesn't give that much details.
Anyways, don't shoot me or flame me or what not, I'm just postingg