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whitelly
Profile Joined May 2011
Czech Republic50 Posts
September 16 2011 15:15 GMT
#21
If you have feel,dont ask,just do it
.dont doubt,dont second quess,believe it is possible and be progamer.just be,and prove every doubter wrong.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
September 16 2011 15:17 GMT
#22
Try to set aside some time for REALLY hardcore practice, see how it feels. Most likely you will realise it isn't for you but if you feel after putting down some time and effort that this is really what you want to do i say go for it, the worst that can happen is that you fail but if you have the ability to put in the effort to try and become a progamer pretty much anything you want to try after that will seem like a cakewalk
lastshadow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1372 Posts
September 16 2011 15:18 GMT
#23
PM'd you if you want to talk and talk to someone who is currently living that kind of a life and what it took etc.
Patience is a small price to pay for perfection.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17017 Posts
September 16 2011 15:21 GMT
#24
On September 17 2011 00:18 lastshadow wrote:
PM'd you if you want to talk and talk to someone who is currently living that kind of a life and what it took etc.


I'd like to hear this as well. Would you mind posting something publicly so others who stumble upon this thread can have a first-hand account?
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muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
September 16 2011 15:23 GMT
#25
I don't know is it a realistic goal for you to take 30seconds out of your pro game life to use the search engine? Probably not.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 16 2011 15:29 GMT
#26
On September 16 2011 16:57 xOny wrote:
And with that, there's the question of what should i do after. I mean like 40 + years old. I have absolutely no idea how long my progaming life would last, but my guess is that long.


Would you care to elaborate on this? I'm interested in hearing about how you plan to be a progamer for 23 years.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
September 16 2011 15:49 GMT
#27
instead of posting "I want to be a progamer" post some results. "I won 20 $100 prize pool tournaments in 2 months, do you think I have a chance?" would sound much better.
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
September 16 2011 15:51 GMT
#28
I don't think Blizzard, or any company, hires people because "they were progamers". At the very least that assumption needs to be re-thought.

Corollary ESPORTS sometimes hires that way (people running events) but even that tends to only happen for people who are both famous and at the very top in terms of skill.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
September 16 2011 16:06 GMT
#29
if u have the passion to practice 9+ hours a day. Then ye. you can do it
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
September 16 2011 16:28 GMT
#30
No, it's not. You simply can't plan to be a pro-gamer just because you like the thought of it, especially while still in high school. You're either talented and already a good player at your age (think Spanishiwa or Pokebunny) or you're just an avg master level player that has no realistic chance of making it. And I don't consider playing 9+ hours a day, sacrificing your social life and quality of life in general as a 17-year old to maybe, just maybe get close to pro-level realistic.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
September 16 2011 16:56 GMT
#31
Anything is possible. Most players decided they wanted to be the best. Huk said he wants to be an sc2 bonjwa. Most people would have dismissed him, but his dedication to the game has got him to the point where he is at now.

You are at a good age for becoming a progamer too. If you were past 20 I would say "not possible" but you got 3 years until that point. If you really enjoy the game, play it a ton, 4 hours a day. Make sure they are a good 4 hours though, don't just mindlessly ladder. Practice specific mechanics such as macro, unit control and scouting. Go into each game with a game plan that will last the entire game. Decide on a build and time it to perfection making minor adjustments as neccesary, but stick to a single overall game plan. Many people give players like idra or huk grief because they do the same build over and over, but the thing is, that's the best way to develop your skills. Don't be a pro at a single race, be a pro at a single play style. In chess, players will play a single opening for YEARS, literally.

The final piece of advice is, if you want to be good at something, spend at least 10,000 hours doing it. For many pro players today, to play this many hours took 5-6 years of playing broodwar, so yea, you have a little catch up to do.

If by the time you are 20, you haven't become a pro-gamer, then I would say, just enjoy the game, but never give up or you will never ever realize your goals.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 16:59:54
September 16 2011 16:57 GMT
#32
On September 17 2011 01:28 Harrad wrote:
No, it's not. You simply can't plan to be a pro-gamer just because you like the thought of it, especially while still in high school. You're either talented and already a good player at your age (think Spanishiwa or Pokebunny) or you're just an avg master level player that has no realistic chance of making it. And I don't consider playing 9+ hours a day, sacrificing your social life and quality of life in general as a 17-year old to maybe, just maybe get close to pro-level realistic.

Pokebunny/spanishwa played alot to break there level. U dont know what ur talking about. lol
if hes already high masters and had the passion/right mindset..he could easily break into pro level with consistent practice. It's no secret. It takes hard work. and if he has the passion for it, he can do it.
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 17:50:25
September 16 2011 17:30 GMT
#33
On September 17 2011 01:57 VPCursed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 01:28 Harrad wrote:
No, it's not. You simply can't plan to be a pro-gamer just because you like the thought of it, especially while still in high school. You're either talented and already a good player at your age (think Spanishiwa or Pokebunny) or you're just an avg master level player that has no realistic chance of making it. And I don't consider playing 9+ hours a day, sacrificing your social life and quality of life in general as a 17-year old to maybe, just maybe get close to pro-level realistic.

Pokebunny/spanishwa played alot to break there level. U dont know what ur talking about. lol
if hes already high masters and had the passion/right mindset..he could easily break into pro level with consistent practice. It's no secret. It takes hard work. and if he has the passion for it, he can do it.


I never said it's an impossible goal, I merely said I don't consider it a realistic one considering his current situation. Nothing wrong with having ambitions and trying to realize them.

On September 16 2011 23:50 Animzor wrote:
If you make a post about it, it will never happen.


Even though it sounds trivial, I actually agree with this a lot.
Do you think players like Naniwa or Huk sat at a table one day, pondering what to do with their lives, then deciding to become a professional gamer? No, successful pros all have in common that they are extremely competitive by nature, have a strong work mentality and a fair share of talent, too. This has naturally paved their way for them, it was their thing, it's what they do. I remember Huk saying on his stream "If I hadn't gone pro, i'd be in the army or dead" or something to that extent. Also, they already were good to accomplished rts players before their sc2 careers,so it should be even harder to go pro if you have to go from zero to hero.
I really want everyone to strife to realize their dreams, but since the question was whether it was realistic, this is my answer.

Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
September 16 2011 17:43 GMT
#34
One thing: if you fail, you'll just be a nerd with no life.
If you play a dozen hours everyday and don't have any role in the community, then it's one of the biggest fails one can reach, aside from what fate casts upon you.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
September 16 2011 17:45 GMT
#35
Never limit your possibilities in life is my most important piece of advice, especially if you aren't 100% sure you can live off of progaming. Just do as well in school as you can while playing on the side, and you will know when you are at the level when you can consider taking a break from school for gaming / pursuing it as your career. Don't throw away ANY of your life until you KNOW you can make it.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
September 16 2011 17:51 GMT
#36
On September 17 2011 02:43 Kukaracha wrote:
One thing: if you fail, you'll just be a nerd with no life.
If you play a dozen hours everyday and don't have any role in the community, then it's one of the biggest fails one can reach, aside from what fate casts upon you.


I agree. esports is like regular sports-- those who make it to the top do quite well for themselves, and those more towards the bottom can get by, usually, and if you're just semi-pro you'll need a day job.

As a general rule, I'd try to pursue pro gaming only in conjunction with the pursuit of education. Polt, for example, is attending a prestigious university while maintaining his status as an excellent pro gamer.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Lomak
Profile Joined June 2010
United States311 Posts
September 16 2011 18:13 GMT
#37
No, that is not realistic. Very few people in the world are good enough at SC2 to support themselves off it. Those that can are already doing so. If you want to bust into the scene as a new face you better be able to put up some results or else nobody would care to notice you.

Go to an MLG , plow through an open bracket, and If you are good enough to take a big name out of the tournament then congratulations, you have a CHANCE of making a name for yourself.
Some see the glass half full, others half empty. I think the glass is just too big.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 18:20:06
September 16 2011 18:19 GMT
#38
On September 17 2011 02:51 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 02:43 Kukaracha wrote:
One thing: if you fail, you'll just be a nerd with no life.
If you play a dozen hours everyday and don't have any role in the community, then it's one of the biggest fails one can reach, aside from what fate casts upon you.


I agree. esports is like regular sports-- those who make it to the top do quite well for themselves, and those more towards the bottom can get by, usually, and if you're just semi-pro you'll need a day job.

As a general rule, I'd try to pursue pro gaming only in conjunction with the pursuit of education. Polt, for example, is attending a prestigious university while maintaining his status as an excellent pro gamer.

polt is a fucking genius.. do you know how competitive academic korea is?
anyhow, follow vpcursed's advice
hes doing the same thing as u are and shares my disbelief in talent
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
September 16 2011 18:24 GMT
#39
On September 17 2011 03:19 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 02:51 Blazinghand wrote:
On September 17 2011 02:43 Kukaracha wrote:
One thing: if you fail, you'll just be a nerd with no life.
If you play a dozen hours everyday and don't have any role in the community, then it's one of the biggest fails one can reach, aside from what fate casts upon you.


I agree. esports is like regular sports-- those who make it to the top do quite well for themselves, and those more towards the bottom can get by, usually, and if you're just semi-pro you'll need a day job.

As a general rule, I'd try to pursue pro gaming only in conjunction with the pursuit of education. Polt, for example, is attending a prestigious university while maintaining his status as an excellent pro gamer.

polt is a fucking genius.. do you know how competitive academic korea is?
anyhow, follow vpcursed's advice
hes doing the same thing as u are and shares my disbelief in talent


Polt is literally my hero: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=245187

But yeah i have no idea how he is so amazing academically and as a professional gamer. But even if he weren't a great professional, he still has a great life ahead of him since he's getting a top-notch education
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
September 16 2011 18:56 GMT
#40
i highly doubt polt isn't committing a serious amount of time to SC2. And also. its actually impossible to do good in school and play SC2 in korea. Maybe universites are much easier.. but Korean highschool.middle school? You wont even have time to learn hotkeys.
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