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On September 13 2011 12:55 JadeFist wrote:
My mom has a chronic pain condition and is prescribed oxycodone hcl. This past summer I railed ~25 mgs one night (no previous usage) while my parents were away. Like a lot of drugs, it was difficult to really grasp the effects on a first time use but it did fuck me up. Apparently I suck at handling opiates because that dose was enough to make me vomit until I dry heaved. Then I went to bed, woke up, went to summer class and threw up my breakfast during class (in the hallway).
I insufflated oxy twice more after this at lower doses. Even 15mg railed was enough to make me vomit again until I dry heaved. I can see why this drug is addicting though because it totally puts you in a feel good zone. It relieved my anxiety so I think it would be especially addicting to anxiety sufferers like me.
I'm now at college and have no access to oxy and do not plan on getting any but just the thought of the drug gives me a longing. I don't think I'll ever do it again but that's what everyone says right?
Good luck on your road to recovery, I heard the drug Gabapentin (Neurontin) is very effective at easing opiate withdrawal if you can get some of that.
some people just get really naucious from opiates a friend of mind who is a fiend for so many kinds of drugs refuses to touch opiates as they all just make him vomit, slight nausea though is very very common especially during the comedown (at least in my experience)
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On September 13 2011 12:55 JadeFist wrote:
Good luck on your road to recovery, I heard the drug Gabapentin (Neurontin) is very effective at easing opiate withdrawal if you can get some of that.
Haha hearing that drug makes me remember, I was taking those as well gah my dad had so many pills
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gabapentin is a good time :D great with weed/alchohol though I can say nothing to its usefulness in recovering from opiates
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On September 13 2011 13:10 Phtes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2011 12:55 JadeFist wrote:
Good luck on your road to recovery, I heard the drug Gabapentin (Neurontin) is very effective at easing opiate withdrawal if you can get some of that. Haha hearing that drug makes me remember, I was taking those as well gah my dad had so many pills
Yeah my mom had them too that's why I knew about it. I popped a couple 800mg pills and it was pretty nice but I had no urge to repeat the experience.
She also had many different assortments of benzos none of which I took. The concept of downers doesn't really appeal to me.
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you know who they give Oxy to? People who were shot in the face. You're a fool. This is not going to end well. I tried Oxy once. I drank a beer, took a pill, vomitted, end of my opiate addiction. When I go to Thailand (one every few years) I smoke poppy tar (real opium, son not that pharmy bullshit) mixed with coconut hair in a bamboo bong prepared by a local dude with dragon tattoo extending from shoulder to shoulder on his back. That is fun but I always feel like shit the next week. Opiates are fun if you like to wallow, and feel sorry for yourself.
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On September 13 2011 13:13 snorlax wrote:
gabapentin is a good time :D great with weed/alchohol though I can say nothing to its usefulness in recovering from opiates
Heh, and now this comment alone makes me want to try it again. 
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On September 13 2011 13:19 RuthUnderwood wrote:
you know who they give Oxy to? People who were shot in the face. You're a fool. This is not going to end well. I tried Oxy once. I drank a beer, took a pill, vomitted, end of my opiate addiction. When I go to Thailand (one every few years) I smoke poppy tar (real opium, son not that pharmy bullshit) mixed with coconut hair in a bamboo bong prepared by a local dude with dragon tattoo extending from shoulder to shoulder on his back. That is fun but I always feel like shit the next week. Opiates are fun if you like to wallow, and feel sorry for yourself.
Actually Oxy is given to most commonly terminally ill people, or those with terrible stages of cancer, most gunshot victims get a form of morphine, a much weaker drug, even the IV's are morphine filled, as well as the shots. Getting Oxy in a high Dosage, and without CR is very rare. Also the pills come in concentrated forms with no added compounds... Now sit down and stop acting like your some godly badass.
Also who knows what nasty shit your poppy was cut with...
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I refuse to read the comments on the grounds that I suspect there is a lot of uninformed bullshit being posted.
Except FragKrag, who is right in saying opiates are much harder to detox from than benzos. On a scale of one to ten, vicodin is about a 3 to come clean from. Yeah, you'll have a lot of discomfort. Your digestive system will take a big hit. Plus you'll ache. Badly.
But it's not even comparable to coming off a two day heroin binge.
I'd say coming off a few weeks of habitual vicodin abuse is feels about like coming off a weekend of oxycontin.
Don't do drugs. It's okay to be curious. But it'll fucking make days, weeks and lots and LOTS of money just disappear.
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On September 13 2011 13:55 Probe1 wrote:
I refuse to read the comments on the grounds that I suspect there is a lot of uninformed bullshit being posted.
Except FragKrag, who is right in saying opiates are much harder to detox from than benzos. On a scale of one to ten, vicodin is about a 3 to come clean from. Yeah, you'll have a lot of discomfort. Your digestive system will take a big hit. Plus you'll ache. Badly.
But it's not even comparable to coming off a two day heroin binge.
I'd say coming off a few weeks of habitual vicodin abuse is feels about like coming off a weekend of oxycontin.
Don't do drugs. It's okay to be curious. But it'll fucking make days, weeks and lots and LOTS of money just disappear.
Ironic that you speak of uninformed bullshit.
First of all you don't agree with frag king. He states opiate wd is 2nd only to benzos. Secondly wd comes from weeks of daily use. Hydrocodone WDs are quite severe although oxy is straight up hell. If you're implying a hydrocodone wd is equal to a two day binge of oxy, you're severely mistaken.
The point? All opiate withdrawals are severe. Also it takes some time to get to that point. (weeks-months of daily use.)
Edit: t9 is fucking annoying.
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On September 13 2011 13:19 RuthUnderwood wrote:
you know who they give Oxy to? People who were shot in the face. You're a fool. This is not going to end well. I tried Oxy once. I drank a beer, took a pill, vomitted, end of my opiate addiction. When I go to Thailand (one every few years) I smoke poppy tar (real opium, son not that pharmy bullshit) mixed with coconut hair in a bamboo bong prepared by a local dude with dragon tattoo extending from shoulder to shoulder on his back. That is fun but I always feel like shit the next week. Opiates are fun if you like to wallow, and feel sorry for yourself.
If you tried oxy once and puked, you were never truly addicted to opiates good sir
Opiate addiction is complete fuckery, and simply puking is not an event that could break any addiction, let alone the fuckery that is opiate addiction.
OP: If you aren't currently abusing benzos, one of my friends had good success with benzos which calmed him down enough to help ameliorate opiate withdrawals.
At the same time though, be careful of the benzos as well. Benzo addiction is a different beast (I would say worse) entirely.
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On September 13 2011 13:55 Probe1 wrote:
I refuse to read the comments on the grounds that I suspect there is a lot of uninformed bullshit being posted.
Except FragKrag, who is right in saying opiates are much harder to detox from than benzos. On a scale of one to ten, vicodin is about a 3 to come clean from. Yeah, you'll have a lot of discomfort. Your digestive system will take a big hit. Plus you'll ache. Badly.
But it's not even comparable to coming off a two day heroin binge.
I'd say coming off a few weeks of habitual vicodin abuse is feels about like coming off a weekend of oxycontin.
Don't do drugs. It's okay to be curious. But it'll fucking make days, weeks and lots and LOTS of money just disappear.
wtf was this comment... most of the things being said are just people sharing stories, also "Don't do drugs. It's okay to be curious. But it'll fucking make days, weeks and lots and LOTS of money just disappear" so do most hobbies (sc2 etc)
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sc2 doesn't make lots of money disappear dude
let's not make light of addiction
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On September 13 2011 14:35 FragKrag wrote:
sc2 doesn't make lots of money disappear dude
let's not make light of addiction
His original post said starbucks. Which doesn't make days dissappear. I see his point though it pissed me off to read such an arrogant and condescending post directed towards people trying to help.
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Caffeine is the most addicting drug in the world, do I win now?...
Actually I personally don't believe in addiction. People who say they cant quit because they are addicted are just making excuses for there weak minds or no will to try.
I broke the "addiction" due to shock factor, but I was more than able to stop at any time I simply chose not to because I had no reason to at the time. In fact I had quit multiple times and only went back due to pure boredom ^^.
On the amphetamines topic, I used to get prescribe huge doses of Adheral, probably my favorite drug because it actually helped me =D
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If you don't think addiction exists you haven't been exposed to it.
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On September 13 2011 14:41 muse5187 wrote:
If you don't think addiction exists you haven't been exposed to it.
I'm fairly certain Ive been exposed to FAR more than you, but that is an argument for another time my friend. Merely stating my opinion on the subject after being exposed to said subject my entire life.
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When I broke my leg 10 years ago the doc prescribed Vicodin and it makes me nauseous. I puked in some plant on the Queen Mary during some MTG tourney lol. A few years ago when I had tonsilitis they gave me Morphine in my IV. Felt like I got punched in the stomach and I almost puked (probably would have if I actually had food in there, Tonsillitis kept me from swallowing stuff, I lost 15 lbs). They prescribed me liquid Codine, and when I was almost done with the bottle I still wanted more even though I didn't need it.
Recently I had my appendix out and I refused as much of these opiates as I could. Until after the surgery they had me on Dilaudid and then Norco. The first day I felt really loopy and almost noddin off randomly when I took them, the following days it didn't (built tolerance that fast). After a day or two when the pain was less intense I just manned through it and stopped taking the norcos. I still have a full bottle on my shelf.
This shit is not to be fucked with.
PS- Phtes watch zeitgiest 3 moving forward. A huge part of the movie is about addiction and psychology where they interview lots of professionals.
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Oh man..I will have to write a blog on this sooner than I thought..
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This post feels like being on the Shroomery.
On September 13 2011 14:43 Phtes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2011 14:41 muse5187 wrote:
If you don't think addiction exists you haven't been exposed to it. I'm fairly certain Ive been exposed to FAR more than you, but that is an argument for another time my friend. Merely stating my opinion on the subject after being exposed to said subject my entire life.
But it does seem delusional to say "I could to, but didn't, because I didn't wanted to."
It's the oldest excuse people make. I could've been something, really, I assure you I had the potential, but I'm not, because I didn't wanted to...
There aren't many people who will say that it is a good thing to be hardcore on opiates. So why not chose to leave them?
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On September 13 2011 20:13 Kukaracha wrote:
This post feels like being on the Shroomery.
But it does seem delusional to say "I could to, but didn't, because I didn't wanted to."
It's the oldest excuse people make. I could've been something, really, I assure you I had the potential, but I'm not, because I didn't wanted to...
There aren't many people who will say that it is a good thing to be hardcore on opiates. So why not chose to leave them?
Why not quit?
Simply because I had a readily access to it, and I was able to "handle" them better than most people. The only side effects I every really got after coming off the high was being insanely hungry. That was a fine price to pay for a day of enjoyment.
Of course I would say the biggest factor was peer pressure, my best friends did opiates with me so why stop when he is using? Conformity Rules, as they say.
I don't at all consider it a good thing that I was once an opiate user, it is just a part of my history and I have accepted that, "I once was a opiate user, I was able to stop at any time and proved myself capable of such a feet.' Now whenever I meet people and they ask me, "Did you ever use drugs?" I will give them an honest answer, and then explain to them why they should not use them.
Maybe I should write a blog about this.
However the fact remains that there are professionals on both sides of the argument, I believe it's a choice, I've experienced the choice and I made my choice.
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