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Anyone else tired of mentioning Euros in NASL?

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dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
August 14 2011 23:53 GMT
#1
Ever since this whole Korean debacle started, I've probably seen more than a hundred posts like "The NASL doesn't need Koreans in it, it's the NORTH AMERICAN Starcraft League" or something to that effect. And then every time there's a response about how Europeans and South Americans are in the NASL. Are people really that dense that this keeps needing to be repeated?

In short: To whomever keeps mentioning that Koreans shouldn't be in the NASL because they aren't North Americans or something, stop acting like Koreans were the only non-North Americans in the NASL.

God just so annoying.

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You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 14 2011 23:59 GMT
#2
Well eventually the butthurt nerds will being wanting the Europeans out too.
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Since they swept IPL, they will probably dominate NASL too.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14138 Posts
August 15 2011 00:04 GMT
#3
Euro's are a lot closer to the USA then Korea. theres a lot of good (and bad) history that brings us both together. Most of the people in NA (north of mexico) come from europe so it doesn't really seem like that far away.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 15 2011 00:12 GMT
#4
On August 15 2011 09:04 sermokala wrote:
Euro's are a lot closer to the USA then Korea. theres a lot of good (and bad) history that brings us both together. Most of the people in NA (north of mexico) come from europe so it doesn't really seem like that far away.

I'm going to say that it has little to do with where people come from (that was like 250 years ago).
In BW there wasn't much difference between Europeans and Americans and just like everyone else not Korean they got lumped into the foreigner group.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 15 2011 00:29 GMT
#5
I thought I was the only one who made that comment. Therefore I feel a need to defend myself. If the Koreans don't want to come to NASL that's fine. I won't cry for them or argue against NASL for them.

The foreigners can play just fine.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 00:43:55
August 15 2011 00:37 GMT
#6
On August 15 2011 09:29 obesechicken13 wrote:
I thought I was the only one who made that comment. Therefore I feel a need to defend myself. If the Koreans don't want to come to NASL that's fine. I won't cry for them or argue against NASL for them.

The foreigners can play just fine.


You missed the point completely. The point is Koreans weren't the only non-NORTH AMERICANS in the NORTH AMERICAN Starcraft League. So there's no point in emphasizing the "North American" in in regards to the player pool since there are still non-North Americans in the NASL like Europeans and South Americans. The only reason NA is in the name is because it takes place in North America.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 01:15:25
August 15 2011 01:01 GMT
#7
On August 15 2011 09:37 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 09:29 obesechicken13 wrote:
I thought I was the only one who made that comment. Therefore I feel a need to defend myself. If the Koreans don't want to come to NASL that's fine. I won't cry for them or argue against NASL for them.

The foreigners can play just fine.


You missed the point completely. The point is Koreans weren't the only non-NORTH AMERICANS in the NORTH AMERICAN Starcraft League. So there's no point in emphasizing the "North American" in in regards to the player pool since there are still non-North Americans in the NASL like Europeans and South Americans. The only reason NA is in the name is because it takes place in North America.

Perhaps you missed the point. The Koreans aren't coming to NASL, at least most of them. The Europeans are.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 01:18:53
August 15 2011 01:18 GMT
#8
On August 15 2011 10:01 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 09:37 dabom88 wrote:
On August 15 2011 09:29 obesechicken13 wrote:
I thought I was the only one who made that comment. Therefore I feel a need to defend myself. If the Koreans don't want to come to NASL that's fine. I won't cry for them or argue against NASL for them.

The foreigners can play just fine.


You missed the point completely. The point is Koreans weren't the only non-NORTH AMERICANS in the NORTH AMERICAN Starcraft League. So there's no point in emphasizing the "North American" in in regards to the player pool since there are still non-North Americans in the NASL like Europeans and South Americans. The only reason NA is in the name is because it takes place in North America.

Perhaps you missed the point. The Koreans aren't coming to NASL, at least most of them. The Europeans are.


If that's the point you're arguing, then you don't seem to have any idea of what this topic is about. Either read through the topic post again or stop trolling.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Haegr9599
Profile Joined April 2011
United States210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 01:41:28
August 15 2011 01:40 GMT
#9
lol?

why does it even matter? it takes place in NA, so it can be called North American Star League all the hell it wants, and as a general rule, its always been Korea vs the World, and who the hell wants to call a league the "FSL" ???

btw, why you hate NA people?

edit: FSL = Foreigner/Foreign Star League
I choose my friends for their good looks, my acquaintances for their good characters, and my enemies for their intellects. A man cannot be too careful in the choice of his enemies
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
August 15 2011 01:55 GMT
#10
As someone who doesn't follow the SCII scene, I laughed quite a bit when I saw all the interviews from "foreign" players for the NASL. Personally, if I gave a damn about SCII, I'd say the more the merrier and would be happy to have Europeans, South Americans, Koreans, and anyone who wanted to play, in the tournament. But I still think North American Starleague implies a league for North Americans.
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Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
August 15 2011 01:57 GMT
#11
Segregating the world into Korea and Foreign like BW will not be good for Foreign for they will fall behind in metagame, strategies, mechanics, awareness, and experience.

But yes, those who think the Koreans not coming to NASL is a good thing because NORTH AMERICA does not include Korea get quite annoying.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
ctl4
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada11 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 03:05:50
August 15 2011 03:05 GMT
#12
this is why many people who play broodwar dont take starcraft 2 or its proscene seriously, you all get into competitive leauges, and when players who are better than you arrive you take it as a negative, you act like the consequence is on them to leave as a result of your inequity in skill level as opposed to you bettering yourselves so that you can go to their level. Anyways its ridiculous that noobs are claiming rights to boot the good players, because of their own noobness. Also northamerican starleauge does not mean anything about north american players only, it means that the games are situated in north american territories, other wise the non- north americans would not be able to play at all as per tournament rules .
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