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imjorman
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States580 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 21:02:42
August 08 2011 18:46 GMT
#1
A little about this experiment
Like most of us here at Teamliquid, I have this fantasy of one day making it as a progamer. We all know a massive amount of practice goes into it, and the chances of making it big time are slim to none. However, because I still want to feel what they go through, tomorrow I am going to be doing what it would feel like to be a "Progamer for a day." With this experiment will be coming blogs, streaming, and maybe pictures.

A little about me
I'm Imjorman, an upper platinum Terran player who is trying to get into masters before the end of the fall semester (December). My goal isn't lofty, but I really just want to get masters so I can feel like I can really "start" playing the game for all its worth. I really just want to get better at this game, and this experiment would make me realize how much work would actually go into being soo good at this game. The longest I've ever played before was 4 hours and man that felt like a marathon. What would it feel like to play for 10-12 like the pro's do daily?

Here's the schedule I'll be following (all times EST):

10:00 AM - wake and do morning routine
10:30 - 12:30 PM - Play ladder games
12:30 PM - 1:30 - Working lunch: Eating while analyzing replays from 10:30 - 12:30 session; as well as posting an updated blog on how things are going.
1:30 - 5:30 - Play ladder games
5:30 - 6:30 - Working dinner: eating while analyzing replays from 1:30 - 5:30 session; as well as posting an updated blog on how things are going.
6:30- 10:30 - Play ladder games
10:30 - onward - Analyze final session of games (6:30 - 10:30), post a final blog on how things went, and then not look at anything SC2 related

Objectives
[ ]Perfect a build order for TvT (probably blue flame hellions into more blue flame hellions )
[ ]Work on transitions against zerg. 2 rax pressure into tank is what I'm doing right now, but need more options :D

Bonus
[ ]Get promoted into diamond league

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This is pretty much what I'm going to be doing tomorrow. I realize that Pro's do more than ladder in their practice, so if anyone wants to do some practice games with various scenarious, let me know in Bnet at Imjorman.348. In addition to all of this, I'll be streaming the ladder on my twitch.tv account at: http://www.twitch.tv/imjorman and updating my progress on Twitter at: http://www.twitter.com/imjorman

I hope you guys tune in to watch this and read the blog as it will be interesting to see how the "progaming" life effects just an average joe :D

edit 1: Changed schedule a bit to reflect not doing micro trainers, just simply playing.
edit 2: Added objectives...more objectives to come?
edit 3: Added twitter info
edit 4: A link to the prologue for today - http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=252876
A link to the review of my first play session - http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=252919

edit 5: going to be updating in here from now on. 1:30-5:30 session is terrible. Lost all but two games. I just can't keep this kind of focus. I have a new respect for the players that practice all day everyday. I'm prertty much exhausted. I'm gonna call it for today and it sucks I didn't meet my 10 hour goal, but honestly I feel like I was hurting my play more than helping.


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People who want power shouldn't have it.
josemb40
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Peru611 Posts
August 08 2011 18:49 GMT
#2
good luck man, dont think i'll be able to watch your stream but i hope it helps you get better and learn more about programer's lifes
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lantz
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States762 Posts
August 08 2011 18:52 GMT
#3
ill play with u
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
August 08 2011 18:54 GMT
#4
Most I've played is about 200 games right before MLG DC over a 3 day span. Played about 16 hours a day. There was a lot of cheesing involved. I'm pretty sure I very rarely went past 2 bases in my gameplan.
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
August 08 2011 19:03 GMT
#5
Good luck
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
August 08 2011 19:05 GMT
#6
This sounds fun, best of luck

Looking forward to hearing the updates!
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
August 08 2011 19:06 GMT
#7
micro/macro trainers are very pointless. But regardless, gl :O!
@KawaiiRiceLighT
imjorman
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States580 Posts
August 08 2011 19:13 GMT
#8
On August 09 2011 04:06 KawaiiRice wrote:
micro/macro trainers are very pointless. But regardless, gl :O!


Well that's good input :D Would you just say its better to grind out games and analyze? In addition, does my schedule resemble something of yours or other pros? I don't wanna have an "unrealistic" experience.
People who want power shouldn't have it.
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
August 08 2011 19:14 GMT
#9
Hey goodluck man. I've done the Progamer for a day experiment as well (although I didn't publicize it). You'll find that you'll learn a lot more by playing those extra hours, and you'll see it in a matter of a few days after once your brain has soaked in all of that information. It's quite exhausting though. I remember my mind was steaming from the stress of taking in so much info. It's a good thing you made time to analyze your replays, you'll definitely want to have a break.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
August 08 2011 19:16 GMT
#10
Sounds like it'll be a fun stream.
#TeamBuLba
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
August 08 2011 19:20 GMT
#11
Good luck in your busy day!
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imjorman
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States580 Posts
August 08 2011 19:29 GMT
#12
Thanks for all the support :D I'm going to have my webcam streaming that day as well (just be overlayed on top of the the game screen) so you guys can see me slowly implode under the exhaustion that is sure to incur
People who want power shouldn't have it.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
August 08 2011 19:37 GMT
#13
For the most part I think your schedule is good. I don't recommend playing standard macro games all the time though, have at least 2-3 hours dedicated to perfecting a particular build order and testing it against different races on different maps. I'm sure progamers don't practice standard 1v1 all day - they probably try out a list of things including a very special cheese that works well in a map, or practice to counter it. Maybe if you can get a couple "practice partners," you should work on cheesing / defending cheese. I'm not a good player (nor do I have the time to play the game for that long) so I can't be your practice partner D=

Other than that, should be a fun but exhausting experiment. Best of luck, you're going to need a couple energy drinks I think =)
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Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
August 08 2011 19:42 GMT
#14
Good luck!
RIP MBC Game Hero
imjorman
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States580 Posts
August 08 2011 19:48 GMT
#15
On August 09 2011 04:37 OpticalShot wrote:
For the most part I think your schedule is good. I don't recommend playing standard macro games all the time though, have at least 2-3 hours dedicated to perfecting a particular build order and testing it against different races on different maps. I'm sure progamers don't practice standard 1v1 all day - they probably try out a list of things including a very special cheese that works well in a map, or practice to counter it. Maybe if you can get a couple "practice partners," you should work on cheesing / defending cheese. I'm not a good player (nor do I have the time to play the game for that long) so I can't be your practice partner D=

Other than that, should be a fun but exhausting experiment. Best of luck, you're going to need a couple energy drinks I think =)


This is good input Yeah I doubt ladder will have the ability to provide me solid practice all the day long. I probably will spend some time against the computer (or alone) practicing some builds for the various matchups. Like in TvT, I don't have an actual build, I just kinda wing it. So that can be something! I need to make an objectives list!
People who want power shouldn't have it.
Khenra
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands885 Posts
August 08 2011 19:51 GMT
#16
I might do this myself some day. Not tomorrow though, must watch GSL code S!
This signature is ruining eSports.
Capsize
Profile Joined April 2010
227 Posts
August 08 2011 19:51 GMT
#17
I'll probably try to contact you to play some games, your idea kinda made me want to play again :D
imjorman
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States580 Posts
August 08 2011 19:52 GMT
#18
On August 09 2011 04:51 Capsize wrote:
I'll probably try to contact you to play some games, your idea kinda made me want to play again :D


Glad I could be of service. Yeah man, hit me up I'm looking for partners hardcore for tomorrow :D:D
People who want power shouldn't have it.
billiebrightside
Profile Joined March 2011
United States150 Posts
August 08 2011 20:05 GMT
#19
I'll be watching your stream best of luck!
Mother always said: "My son, do the noble thing. You have to finish what you started now, no matter what. Now sit, watch, and learn!"
imjorman
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States580 Posts
August 08 2011 20:29 GMT
#20
On August 09 2011 05:05 billiebrightside wrote:
I'll be watching your stream best of luck!


Thanks I'm looking forward to the experience.
People who want power shouldn't have it.
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
August 08 2011 20:41 GMT
#21
great idea, ive been trying this but just cant force myself to stick to my schedule as i have a tendency to wake up later than i plan for T.T the times i have though, its been incredibly helpful gl
imjorman
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States580 Posts
August 08 2011 20:59 GMT
#22
I'm getting pretty excited. In this blog I'll link to my updated blogs so the OP doesn't get ridiculously long lol
People who want power shouldn't have it.
katzby
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States110 Posts
August 08 2011 21:01 GMT
#23
I tried grinding games too, it depends if I win or lose I guess. If I win, I think I can go on for like 4 hours, if I lose- 2. I'm adding you too for practice, my TvZ needs refinement.
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 08 2011 21:39 GMT
#24
the most important thing about grinding games is that you need an extremely solid game plan for each matchup. You need a detailed idea of what to do vs every possible thing they could throw at you, and then practice the crap out of it. i suggest you post it here for feedback
dr Helvetica <3
imjorman
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States580 Posts
August 08 2011 22:18 GMT
#25
On August 09 2011 06:39 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
the most important thing about grinding games is that you need an extremely solid game plan for each matchup. You need a detailed idea of what to do vs every possible thing they could throw at you, and then practice the crap out of it. i suggest you post it here for feedback


In my blogs tomorrow I'll be posting replays that simply don't make sense to me or ones that I can't seem to analyze properly. Obviously against T I have a lot of responses to various scenarios played out, but against Z and P I need refinement.
People who want power shouldn't have it.
ShaneFreeze
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden9 Posts
August 08 2011 22:24 GMT
#26
Cool idea I wish you best of luck!
POiNTx
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium309 Posts
August 08 2011 23:30 GMT
#27
Nice little experiment! Pfft if I would that that schedule for one day, I would be so tired :D. I hope you succeed in your objectives and wish you the best luck! GLHF!
Fuck yeah serotonin
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 23:39:18
August 08 2011 23:38 GMT
#28
depends on what you mean by pro. I doubt there are very many non Korean players who follow a routine that strictly, a lot of them actually talk pretty openly about how little they practice.

Korean players however, probably do this but even more hardcore
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imjorman
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States580 Posts
August 08 2011 23:39 GMT
#29
On August 09 2011 08:38 Xeris wrote:
depends on what you mean by pro. I doubt there are very many non Korean players who follow a routine that strictly, a lot of them actually talk pretty openly about how little they practice.

Korean players however, probably do this but even more hardcore


By pro I mean good ones ^^
People who want power shouldn't have it.
Kfish
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Chile282 Posts
August 09 2011 01:25 GMT
#30
On August 09 2011 08:39 imjorman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 08:38 Xeris wrote:
depends on what you mean by pro. I doubt there are very many non Korean players who follow a routine that strictly, a lot of them actually talk pretty openly about how little they practice.

Korean players however, probably do this but even more hardcore


By pro I mean good ones ^^


dang that was rough!

GL HF!
imjorman
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States580 Posts
August 09 2011 04:00 GMT
#31
On August 09 2011 10:25 Kfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 08:39 imjorman wrote:
On August 09 2011 08:38 Xeris wrote:
depends on what you mean by pro. I doubt there are very many non Korean players who follow a routine that strictly, a lot of them actually talk pretty openly about how little they practice.

Korean players however, probably do this but even more hardcore


By pro I mean good ones ^^


dang that was rough!

GL HF!


Haha after Anaheim there was a great post on reddit about the practice schedule of the Koreans vs. the world. They just practice sooooo much more. It might not be healthy overall, but if we think about it, the people who excel most at their craft in this world lack in other things. If being "well-rounded" is your goal, then that's great, but if you want to truly be the best at something, you have to sacrifice. Outstanding thread and viewpoint, really.
People who want power shouldn't have it.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
August 09 2011 06:42 GMT
#32
You should try to get a coach and/or practice partners.
Porgamers don't just ladder all day. They play customs with coaches over their shoulder, try new things.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Capsize
Profile Joined April 2010
227 Posts
August 09 2011 07:45 GMT
#33
Rycerz.425, diamond protoss on EU&US last season and haven't played any ladder since.
PM me or ask here whenever you want to practice TvP, I would gladly help
Malyce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Switzerland112 Posts
August 09 2011 07:55 GMT
#34
Definitely sounds like a great idea, best of luck!

A few things though seem a bit off, why so much ladder? Surely you can find a couple of practice partners for different match-ups?

What about replay analysis and build order refinement before you go on the ladder, so you could practice the whole process from "wow that guy plays guuud, I wanna copy his build" to "wow I play guuud"?

And if you really want an artifical trainer, try the TL multitasking trainer, it's a lot of fun and pretty insanely hard =D
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