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Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 17:13:59
August 07 2011 17:11 GMT
#1
Yesterday was Dance Valley, an outside Dance festival in the Netherlands.

While it's not oficially allowed to bring or use drugs, of course many people there are using XTC.
And while there is always a minority of addicts, most of them are just all kinds of regular people who like to have a big party and escape the daily routine once in a while. I know a couple who are both lawyers who go there once a year for example.

The police is there to catch the big dealers, but it's easy and kinda condoned to get a few pills in.
30000 people visited at least. And despite the bad weather there was a really good friendly athmosphere without bad things happening.

A while back, some years ago I was there too. I saw Mark Rutte, a young politician, dancing. He was really enjoying the music, the people. It was fun to see him there.
In some of the years after he was there too.

But now I didn't expect him, I mean come on, he's the prime minister now, the leader of the country, meeting all the important people in the world.

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Surely he can't come here anymore. It would be bad for his political career to be seen in that setting with his position and he would need a load of bodyguards.



And to my amazement he was there again, same as always, just dancing among the people
I love him for that, even if I don't totally agree with his political views.

Of course there are people complaining. "Shouldn't he be running the country", "Don't we have a crisis, how can he be smiling"
Ehm, because he is a human? Because he's a young single guy with an important job, who works really long hours and everyone needs a break from time to time?

Luckily most of the reactions are positive and most people found it quite funny to see him there.


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Afterwards the parking lot was changed from a field into a mudpool. Many cars were stuck. Everyone helped eachother, pushing cars from total strangers out of the mud. Mark Rutte was pushing cars too.






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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
fruchtzergeis
Profile Joined April 2011
64 Posts
August 07 2011 17:16 GMT
#2
well, italy has this too, kind of
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
August 07 2011 17:17 GMT
#3
Be very happy that you have this guy in your government. All i have to say about this ...
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
August 07 2011 17:22 GMT
#4
On August 08 2011 02:16 fruchtzergeis wrote:
well, italy has this too, kind of


Lol no. Rutte is a respected politician by even his politcal enemies. Most people's views of Berlusconi is that he's corrupt and abusing his position where he can
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
nVusPip
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom260 Posts
August 07 2011 17:25 GMT
#5
Is it me or is there not much security for a guy that important?
bartus88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands491 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 17:28:56
August 07 2011 17:27 GMT
#6
Haha, this is awesome. I just gained more respect for him as a person.

On August 08 2011 02:25 nVusPip wrote:
Is it me or is there not much security for a guy that important?


From the looks of it, I don't think there is any security at all for him specifically. Makes me proud to live in a country where our PM can walk around in public like that.
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Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
August 07 2011 17:28 GMT
#7
Ehh is that actually him or just a look alike ?
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
August 07 2011 17:31 GMT
#8
Maybe some among the crowd, trying not to behave as bodygards, but not many I think, seemed just a group of friends with him.
The fact that nobody expected him there is probably quite a bit of security already.

I remember a former Prime minister, Wim Kok, some 10-15 years ago traveling with his wife through the UK by bike. Just the 2 of them, no bodyguards at all lol. Times changed after that, but it's good to see this is still possible.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
August 07 2011 17:32 GMT
#9
That's him Marradron, many people saw him and spoke with him
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6326 Posts
August 07 2011 17:35 GMT
#10
On August 08 2011 02:25 nVusPip wrote:
Is it me or is there not much security for a guy that important?


those party's usually have a real good atmosphere though same with hardstyle parties everyone is just so friendly to eachother ^^. There probably were some body guards in the crowd though I can't imagine them not being there.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 17:36:30
August 07 2011 17:36 GMT
#11
It's awesome, only because politicians need some contacts with reality, and a full of drug music festival is a perfect place for this.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
August 07 2011 17:50 GMT
#12
On August 08 2011 02:36 MrCon wrote:
It's awesome, only because politicians need some contacts with reality, and a full of drug music festival is a perfect place for this.


Maybe, yes. It's just a part of society as any other. But it goes the other way too.
Alcohol, with all it's problems, traffic deaths, aggression is commonly allowed, while these parties are still frowned upon by some, even in 2011
Him being there might make people more open minded about it.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
August 07 2011 17:58 GMT
#13
Rutte is great

Think its amazing he still does what he loves in his free time.
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Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
August 07 2011 18:06 GMT
#14
:p that's pretty awesome
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Tweleve
Profile Joined March 2011
United States644 Posts
August 07 2011 18:11 GMT
#15
That's really cool, seems like a chill guy :D
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Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 18:39:53
August 07 2011 18:39 GMT
#16
I went to a lot of those kind of events in netherlands and people are amasing out here, everybody is so friendly that "it's not even funny" (©Rotterdam)
twitter@RickyMarou
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28929 Posts
August 07 2011 18:51 GMT
#17
that's awesome. I went to one of those big beach raves in rotterdam some years back (2005 or so, 30k people or so as well?) and it was great, and definitely not dangerous. and I'd be extremely surprised if there weren't civilian bodyguards present - that coupled with there being searches for guns and knives at the entrance means that this is also fairly safe. personal safety isn't really that big of an issue - what I think is more impressive with regards to the dutch political environment is that he can go there without being harassed.
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4759 Posts
August 07 2011 18:55 GMT
#18
I want to see Angela Merkel at Wacken
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
AC3
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada337 Posts
August 07 2011 19:06 GMT
#19
Now all I can imagine is Stephen Harper at Shambhala.
"The idea is to try to give all of the information to help others to judge the value of your contribution; not just the information that leads to judgment in one particular direction or another" -- Richard Feynman
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
August 07 2011 19:54 GMT
#20
Amazing, didn't know this. Rutte just got 100% cooler!
We know nothing.
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