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Things I am sick of reading on TL...
A random vent
"Actually, the earth wasn't considered flat back then. It was known that the earth was round going all the way back to the blah blah blah, oh and here's this wikipedia link where I learned all of this."
Ok, thanks for completely missing or ignoring the point that was attempting to be made with the analogy. Maybe the analogy isn't perfect, but hopefully you have the common sense to know what the author was driving at, and the restraint to not correct them in a completely off-topic way as weak evidence of your own education. If you have anything to actually contribute to the thread other than "I'm just popping in to say this random analogy is flawed because X," then please offer that instead.
"Oh great, IdrA lost, time for his insane fanboys to rage and overrun the LR thread like a cancer!"
There are times when the reaction to something becomes even worse than the original problem. Cue a thousand people complaining about twenty complaining IdrA fans. Cue a thousand people whining about the twenty people who are whining about imbalance. Whining about whining is more irritating and far more common than the whining itself. Yes, I know I am being hypocritical by whining about whining about whining. The difference is the lack of a thousand other like-minded individuals spamming the twenty into oblivion.
On a related note: For some reason the typical person absolutely loves an easy fight. Make a well-thought out post or argument, and it is typically ignored. But post something that is widely known to be incorrect, or easy to contradict, and you will get thirty people quickly responding to tell you why you are wrong. That's how threads get derailed by a single troll, because everyone wants to argue with the moron instead of simply IGNORING MORONS! Yes, it's an easy battle. That doesn't mean you and everyone else has to fight it to boost your own ego.
"LOL UR HURTING ESPORTS!"
Yeah... it stopped being funny. A while ago.
"I obviously didn't read the OP but let me make this post based upon the title of the thread alone."
I think the mods should start instituting thread title ban traps. Create a thread with some sensational title, then write somewhere in the OP "Warning: This is a ban trap. Do not post in this thread or you will be banned." It will be like shooting fish in a barrel.
"stop using that term"
This is a video game, not a religion. No word is sacred, or holy. Yes, it is irritating when someone who is ignorant of a subject misuses a word. The reality of the world is that the majority dictates the meaning of a language, whether you want them to or not. You can try your best to prevent the inevitable, but telling people how ignorant they are and how a word is off limits because of their lack of reverance towards it will just make you sound like an elitist with too much nostalgia.
"Why are people bad mannered? Are people becoming more bad mannered? What's wrong with the community?"
lol welcome to the internet. Let me show you around. Here's "anonymity." It means you can say whatever you want and get away with it and experience practically no consequences. It causes many people to act like dicks. I'm not sure what sheltered world you grew up in where everyone was polite and courteous and calm, but in the real world there are a huge number of assholes. But not only assholes. There are many people, like myself, who just think that BM can be hilarious or entertaining. It's not a problem unless you take it too seriously, and then it's only your problem.
No, it's not going to "hurt the community." The "community" you speak of is just a bunch of different people who play video games. Most of them have experience online, or shit talking with their friends. I doubt very many of them are gonna say "this person was a meanie to me, I'm gonna stop playing!" Anyone who does say that needs to grow some thicker skin, or stay off the internet entirely.
Shit talking can actually add a lot to competition. It raises the stakes, makes things more exciting, creates drama and hype. IdrA vs. Cruncher have been some of the most entertaining matches, because you don't know what's going to happen next. You see things you don't typically see, you can root harder for or against your player of choice... Long story short, the internet has NEVER been mannered, just accept it and stop being so sensitive.
"Are you kidding? He was a God in Warcraft 3!"
Yeah... and this is not Warcraft 3. I don't care about their history with a different game, I care about their results in THIS one. I had to listen to people hype Grubby for weeks only to watch him flounder in the NASL and lose 0-2 to Artosis. Artosis...
I'm sure I could think of a hundred more examples, but I'm done venting for now. I hope you enjoyed reading it as much as I enjoyed writing it.  Go ahead an offer up some examples of your own.
  
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u not sick of reading girl blogs?
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On August 04 2011 04:21 Kalingingsong wrote:
u not sick of reading girl blogs?
Umm... If I hated reading girl blogs then I would choose to NOT READ THEM!
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On August 04 2011 04:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
elitist
That word is so funny, especially when it is used by people who are browsing TL to talk about competitions and the top players.
/fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
lol
edit: new sig that's just too funny.
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I think the mods should start instituting thread title ban traps. Create a thread with some sensational title, then write somewhere in the OP "Warning: This is a ban trap. Do not post in this thread or you will be banned." It will be like shooting fish in a barrel.
Wait, does this mean it is really bad idea to post in this thread?
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Funny how he's talking about "elitists", and then talks about shit he doesn't like as if he was above others.
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The only thing I disagree with you on is about the world being flat thing, it's a common misconception that the majority of the people back in the day thought it was flat, saying that they did is blatantly wrong and should be pointed out as such.
I don't think a ban trap is really necessary, even though it is a funny idea, they expose themselves pretty quickly anyway.
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Hmm... I agree the whole "are people becoming more bm?!!?!" is annoying (people have always been bm? what memo did you miss?), but I kinda disagree with:
"I'm not sure what sheltered world you grew up in where everyone was polite and courteous and calm, but in the real world there are a huge number of assholes."
In the real world there are also certain social standards about what is and isn't acceptable to say. For example screaming profanities and racial slurs at a coworker is not acceptable, etc. There's a point I think when it's not longer just how things are on the internet (didn't gg/told me to fuck off when I tried to talk to him/called me a fag and rage-quit), and something that should actually be changed. It's how things are unfortunately on the internet. Unlike the real world, there aren't consequences for being an asshole. That doesn't mean it's right, or that people who are upset by it grew up sheltered. But no, I don't think making threads about it, or asking Blizzard to monitor everyone's chat logs, or some nonsense will fix it.
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I don't agree with all of them but I think the Ban Trap idea is freaking brilliant. It would really weed people out.
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Calgary25977 Posts
1. I have no comment on your analogy because I've never seen that on TL.
2. I don't read LR threads but that indeed sounds annoying.
3. I find "Hurting ESPORTS" funny still, so I'll use it.
4. Yea, it's annoying when people don't read a whole OP. On the other hand, peope have started making novel-length OPs when they aren't necessary. The solution is somewhere in the middle - less writing and more reading.
5. You contradict yourself here. Yes, it's extremely annoying that Starcraft language is being diluted by people who don't fully understand it. Some veterans are trying to stop that. That's it. They aren't saying it's Holy, they're just trying to get you to understand the full meaning of the words that you're using.
6. You have a join date of August 2010, so I'm not sure why you are telling us how TL used to be. I'm telling you negativity has skyrocketed around here. "Welcome to the internet" indeed, but not welcome to TL. That's it.
7. Also never seen anyone write this.
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About 2/, yeah, whiners about idra whiners are terrible too. That doesn't mean that when idra lose the LR threads aren't becoming shit for a long time (yesterday idra lost in page 5, page 30 was still filled with whine about his game for instance).
I agree that people should stop to whine about the whine, that would help a lot as their whine about the whine is because they want a quality thread but by whining about the whine they participate on degrading it.
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On August 04 2011 04:38 Chill wrote:
5. You contradict yourself here. Yes, it's extremely annoying that Starcraft language is being diluted by people who don't fully understand it. Some veterans are trying to stop that. That's it. They aren't saying it's Holy, they're just trying to get you to understand the full meaning of the words that you're using.
In several threads I've read, they won't even speak the word. They call it the "b-word." I guess it's kind of a joke but it really seems over the top after a while. And most of the people talking about it aren't trying to educate people, so much as they are bashing those who misunderstand it. That's what I've seen at least.
6. You have a join date of August 2010, so I'm not sure why you are telling us how TL used to be. I'm telling you negativity has skyrocketed around here. "Welcome to the internet" indeed, but not welcome to TL. That's it.
Most of the people who complain about BM are not talking about TL. Maybe I should have mentioned that. They complain about the BM in games, on bnet, or from streamers, etc.
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I hate that whenever there is a thread in the general forum regarding someones death, there will be about a million people going "RIP" "RIP" "RIP XXX" "RIP". It's so annoying, why the hell would i read a thread if nobody says anything but "RIP" in it?
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On August 04 2011 04:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Things I am sick of reading on TL...
A random vent
"Actually, the earth wasn't considered flat back then. It was known that the earth was round going all the way back to the blah blah blah, oh and here's this wikipedia link where I learned all of this."
Ok, thanks for completely missing or ignoring the point that was attempting to be made with the analogy. Maybe the analogy isn't perfect, but hopefully you have the common sense to know what the author was driving at, and the restraint to not correct them in a completely off-topic way as weak evidence of your own education. If you have anything to actually contribute to the thread other than "I'm just popping in to say this random analogy is flawed because X," then please offer that instead.
The problem with the analogy is that it is based on a falsehood -- the presumption that those who came before us were ignorant of how the world works, and that while we're ignorant as well, we've learned more and progressed so much since then. The problem with that? It is wrong.
It is saying:
"Look how little they knew, and look how far we've came! Can you imagine, years from how, how much more we'll know about the world and universe?"
That is the entire point of the analogy. It is citing someone held in high regard, accusing them of ignorance, and applying the logic to modern society.
That is wrong. The entire argument for the analogy is based on the ignorance of previous generations. It is completely relying on the notion that they were ignorant, we've learned more, and although we're still ignorant, we'll progress much further than now and look back on how ignorant previous generations (our generation) were.
That argument falls to shit when we realize that the assumptions made about previous generations is wrong. They weren't ignorant. They DID know almost everything we know about how the world and universe work. They had geniuses, just as we do today, and they were calculating precise measurements about outer space long before we did.
The analogy, moving COMPLETELY away from using an actual reference and person, is assuming we're making some linear progression of knowledge. That isn't how it has been working out. We're constantly making progress, but it isn't linear. The majority of what we know about the universe was known before anyone of us were alive, and before our great-great-great grandparents were alive.
It is an analogy completely based on things that are flat out wrong. Yes, we will continue to progress our understanding, but the analogy is based on this (repeating it, because it is... the point):
"Even a few hundred years ago, they knew so little! Look how far we've came, and yet still live in ignorance! Can you imagine how much we'll know in a few hundred years?"
That only works if they (those who lived a few hundred years ago) were that ignorant. They weren't. The analogy does not work because it is based on falsehoods. It WOULD work if it were true, and WOULD work if it was:
"Look at how evolution was understood during Darwin's era! See how much we've progressed? In a few hundred years..." etc.
Why does that work, and the other doesn't? Because this one is based on fact.
I do not mean to attack you, and I am not the type of asshole who normally responds to people who post that failed analogy, but when you go out of your way to defend it, I feel obliged.
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On August 04 2011 04:48 Deadlyfish wrote:
I hate that whenever there is a thread in the general forum regarding someones death, there will be about a million people going "RIP" "RIP" "RIP XXX" "RIP". It's so annoying, why the hell would i read a thread if nobody says anything but "RIP" in it?
Yeah, that's a good one too. I noticed that the only day, mostly spammed with RIP and frowning faces. It's kind of annoying, but at the same time there might be people who were close to the person and want to speak or offer condolences or something. Guess it depends on how close the person was to the actual community.
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Had to double check the date this blog was created cause I couldn't believe it was recent. I haven't seen the WC3 comments in a looong time.
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Agree with all of them except the BM argument because this isn't the internet this is Starcraft which has always been above and beyond the most manner game with the most manner community.
And I would rather people try to keep it that way then just let it slide into oblivion and make the argument "everyone else is doing it!".
Idgaf how people act in HoN or WoW, this is Starcraft so manner the fuck up.
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Calgary25977 Posts
On August 04 2011 04:46 jdseemoreglass wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 04:38 Chill wrote:
5. You contradict yourself here. Yes, it's extremely annoying that Starcraft language is being diluted by people who don't fully understand it. Some veterans are trying to stop that. That's it. They aren't saying it's Holy, they're just trying to get you to understand the full meaning of the words that you're using. In several threads I've read, they won't even speak the word. They call it the "b-word." I guess it's kind of a joke but it really seems over the top after a while. And most of the people talking about it aren't trying to educate people, so much as they are bashing those who misunderstand it. That's what I've seen at least. Show nested quote +6. You have a join date of August 2010, so I'm not sure why you are telling us how TL used to be. I'm telling you negativity has skyrocketed around here. "Welcome to the internet" indeed, but not welcome to TL. That's it. Most of the people who complain about BM are not talking about TL. Maybe I should have mentioned that. They complain about the BM in games, on bnet, or from streamers, etc.
Oh, well that's dumb. 
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certainly agree with the people picking apart analogies so they can be politically correct while completely missing the whole point you're trying to make.
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On August 04 2011 05:01 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 04:46 jdseemoreglass wrote:On August 04 2011 04:38 Chill wrote:
5. You contradict yourself here. Yes, it's extremely annoying that Starcraft language is being diluted by people who don't fully understand it. Some veterans are trying to stop that. That's it. They aren't saying it's Holy, they're just trying to get you to understand the full meaning of the words that you're using. In several threads I've read, they won't even speak the word. They call it the "b-word." I guess it's kind of a joke but it really seems over the top after a while. And most of the people talking about it aren't trying to educate people, so much as they are bashing those who misunderstand it. That's what I've seen at least. 6. You have a join date of August 2010, so I'm not sure why you are telling us how TL used to be. I'm telling you negativity has skyrocketed around here. "Welcome to the internet" indeed, but not welcome to TL. That's it. Most of the people who complain about BM are not talking about TL. Maybe I should have mentioned that. They complain about the BM in games, on bnet, or from streamers, etc. Oh, well that's dumb.
It's because each time someone posts "xxx for bonjwa !", even jokingly, you ca nbe sure that the 20 next pages will be a discussion on how it wasn't appropriate to use that word and how xxx players doesn't deserve that title, each time the same discussion :D So people don't use the term anymore cause when the term is written, even without saying xxx is a bonjwa, you can be sure the thread will turn to shit.
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On August 04 2011 05:09 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 05:01 Chill wrote:On August 04 2011 04:46 jdseemoreglass wrote:On August 04 2011 04:38 Chill wrote:
5. You contradict yourself here. Yes, it's extremely annoying that Starcraft language is being diluted by people who don't fully understand it. Some veterans are trying to stop that. That's it. They aren't saying it's Holy, they're just trying to get you to understand the full meaning of the words that you're using. In several threads I've read, they won't even speak the word. They call it the "b-word." I guess it's kind of a joke but it really seems over the top after a while. And most of the people talking about it aren't trying to educate people, so much as they are bashing those who misunderstand it. That's what I've seen at least. 6. You have a join date of August 2010, so I'm not sure why you are telling us how TL used to be. I'm telling you negativity has skyrocketed around here. "Welcome to the internet" indeed, but not welcome to TL. That's it. Most of the people who complain about BM are not talking about TL. Maybe I should have mentioned that. They complain about the BM in games, on bnet, or from streamers, etc. Oh, well that's dumb. It's because each time someone posts "xxx for bonjwa !", even jokingly, you ca nbe sure that the 20 next pages will be a discussion on how it wasn't appropriate to use that word and how xxx players doesn't deserve that title, each time the same discussion :D So people don't use the term anymore cause when the term is written, even without saying xxx is a bonjwa, you can be sure the thread will turn to shit.
Well said. And nice 9000th post
Edit: wtf? 9000 posts in less than a year? O.o
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On August 04 2011 04:48 Deadlyfish wrote:
I hate that whenever there is a thread in the general forum regarding someones death, there will be about a million people going "RIP" "RIP" "RIP XXX" "RIP". It's so annoying, why the hell would i read a thread if nobody says anything but "RIP" in it?
Maybe the comments aren't meant for you but more as a show of respect to the deceased, their friends & family. I'm sure that if I posted one of those for a friend or family member, the support would be helpful, even if it's from random stangers.
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On August 04 2011 04:48 Deadlyfish wrote:
I hate that whenever there is a thread in the general forum regarding someones death, there will be about a million people going "RIP" "RIP" "RIP XXX" "RIP". It's so annoying, why the hell would i read a thread if nobody says anything but "RIP" in it?
A lot of people who know the person who died personally might find it comforting. Its not like there's much to discuss on an internet forum if the death was uncontroversial...
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On August 04 2011 05:11 psychopat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 04:48 Deadlyfish wrote:
I hate that whenever there is a thread in the general forum regarding someones death, there will be about a million people going "RIP" "RIP" "RIP XXX" "RIP". It's so annoying, why the hell would i read a thread if nobody says anything but "RIP" in it? Maybe the comments aren't meant for you but more as a show of respect to the deceased, their friends & family. I'm sure that if I posted one of those for a friend or family member, the support would be helpful, even if it's from random stangers.
I think family members of recently deceased have something better to do then browse random internet forums lurking for people spamming RIP. I mean, it's understandable if there is some relation between the deceased and TL, but if it comes to like public figures, it only dilutes the actual information in a thread.
Do you really think Amy Winehouses family reads these forums? I'm cool and all with someone stating why he/she ment so much to him and why he/she is sad that person died, but page upon page of RIP is just flat out annoying. Especially because its the most generic form of 'support' you can show and it seems like most just do it to bolster their postcount.
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On August 04 2011 05:10 jdseemoreglass wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 05:09 MrCon wrote:On August 04 2011 05:01 Chill wrote:On August 04 2011 04:46 jdseemoreglass wrote:On August 04 2011 04:38 Chill wrote:
5. You contradict yourself here. Yes, it's extremely annoying that Starcraft language is being diluted by people who don't fully understand it. Some veterans are trying to stop that. That's it. They aren't saying it's Holy, they're just trying to get you to understand the full meaning of the words that you're using. In several threads I've read, they won't even speak the word. They call it the "b-word." I guess it's kind of a joke but it really seems over the top after a while. And most of the people talking about it aren't trying to educate people, so much as they are bashing those who misunderstand it. That's what I've seen at least. 6. You have a join date of August 2010, so I'm not sure why you are telling us how TL used to be. I'm telling you negativity has skyrocketed around here. "Welcome to the internet" indeed, but not welcome to TL. That's it. Most of the people who complain about BM are not talking about TL. Maybe I should have mentioned that. They complain about the BM in games, on bnet, or from streamers, etc. Oh, well that's dumb. It's because each time someone posts "xxx for bonjwa !", even jokingly, you ca nbe sure that the 20 next pages will be a discussion on how it wasn't appropriate to use that word and how xxx players doesn't deserve that title, each time the same discussion :D So people don't use the term anymore cause when the term is written, even without saying xxx is a bonjwa, you can be sure the thread will turn to shit. Well said. And nice 9000th post Edit: wtf? 9000 posts in less than a year? O.o
Yeah, I post too much xD
I took my time to make an account here, but now that I have one, I make up for all that time =)
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Actually, I prefer when people use proper vocabulary when talking about Starcraft. For example, "cheese", and "all-in", have pretty established meanings, and it dilutes and weakens the meaning of the words when they are constantly misused. I don't know about you, but I enjoy having a set of vocabulary which can be easily used to describe what's happening in the game, as opposed to having to describe in detail the meanings that should be encompassed in that word. In the end, I guess it depends on if you view the vocabulary informally, or as a technical language. For example, if you entered a discussion where the majority of people were misusing the words "velocity" and "speed", it doesn't suddenly change the meaning of the words, it just makes the people misusing them seem ignorant and misinformed.
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Solution to most of your problems -> Read Brood War section. All the cool guys are here
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People using the word troll.
"Oh it's just some trolls, ignore them."
Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're a troll! Don't try to sweep all the naysayers under the rug by dismissing them as trolls. It's insulting to the actual ones who work VERY hard to get banned!
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On August 04 2011 05:19 Derez wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 05:11 psychopat wrote:On August 04 2011 04:48 Deadlyfish wrote:
I hate that whenever there is a thread in the general forum regarding someones death, there will be about a million people going "RIP" "RIP" "RIP XXX" "RIP". It's so annoying, why the hell would i read a thread if nobody says anything but "RIP" in it? Maybe the comments aren't meant for you but more as a show of respect to the deceased, their friends & family. I'm sure that if I posted one of those for a friend or family member, the support would be helpful, even if it's from random stangers. I think family members of recently deceased have something better to do then browse random internet forums lurking for people spamming RIP. I mean, it's understandable if there is some relation between the deceased and TL, but if it comes to like public figures, it only dilutes the actual information in a thread. Do you really think Amy Winehouses family reads these forums? I'm cool and all with someone stating why he/she ment so much to him and why he/she is sad that person died, but page upon page of RIP is just flat out annoying. Especially because its the most generic form of 'support' you can show and it seems like most just do it to bolster their postcount.
To be honest, the only thread that popped to my mind when I read the post was the Cyx thread... I guess we both have valid points.
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lol I decided to do a quick search of "earth flat" to see what I come up with. These are all very recent, and were in 3 separate threads.
On August 03 2011 11:59 Lochat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 13:48 thehitman wrote:
When Columbus claimed that the earth was round everyone thought he was a kook, and since then its been proven to be round, so I wouldn't dismiss anything, although this guy lacks the evidence.
But again as long as he is not claiming the sun is made out of cheese and the sky is red I'd give him a theater to prove his theories. Sorry, but you're a moron. People knew the world was round, that's how sailors could navigate long distances on a sphere. The plotting between a flat plane and a sphere over long distances of water is significant. Then again, why am I bothering with someone who's simply using the argument from ignorance logical fallacy, obviously you're too far gone to bother with.
On August 02 2011 08:35 Elzar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 08:33 King.Crimson wrote:
[...] i mean not even 6 centuries ago, we believed the earth was flat. No we didn't. Just stupid people did. :D
On July 30 2011 03:43 KwarK wrote:
And to incorrectly claim that everyone used to think the world was flat. Nobody ever thought the world was flat, the Greeks not only knew it was round but calculated the exact size and circumference of the world. Anyone who has ever seen a ship go down over the horizon knows it's round. The flat earth bullshit started in the 19th Century.
On July 30 2011 05:19 Spacedude wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 03:43 KwarK wrote:
And to incorrectly claim that everyone used to think the world was flat. Nobody ever thought the world was flat, the Greeks not only knew it was round but calculated the exact size and circumference of the world. Anyone who has ever seen a ship go down over the horizon knows it's round. The flat earth bullshit started in the 19th Century. Umm, seems you are quite wrong in that assumption. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth
On July 30 2011 07:40 BlizzrdSlave wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 05:19 Spacedude wrote:On July 30 2011 03:43 KwarK wrote:
And to incorrectly claim that everyone used to think the world was flat. Nobody ever thought the world was flat, the Greeks not only knew it was round but calculated the exact size and circumference of the world. Anyone who has ever seen a ship go down over the horizon knows it's round. The flat earth bullshit started in the 19th Century. Umm, seems you are quite wrong in that assumption. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 03:43 KwarK wrote:
And to incorrectly claim that everyone used to think the world was flat. Nobody ever thought the world was flat, the Greeks not only knew it was round but calculated the exact size and circumference of the world. Anyone who has ever seen a ship go down over the horizon knows it's round. The flat earth bullshit started in the 19th Century. Aristotle was the first to put forward sound arguments to why the world was round. Due to ellipses of the moon and whatnot. He still thought earth was the center of the universe.Ptolemy created a cosmological model for this in the second century A.D. Only in the 15th century did someone have the balls enough to propose the sun was the center which the earth rotated around. Copernicus. Yes, there have been lots of philosophers/scientists who have understood the world as round, however, the MAJORITY, being ignorant and having no education, always believed the world was flat and feared falling off the edge of it KwarK, really......
On July 29 2011 12:08 manicshock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 13:48 thehitman wrote:
When Columbus claimed that the earth was round everyone thought he was a kook, and since then its been proven to be round, so I wouldn't dismiss anything, although this guy lacks the evidence.
But again as long as he is not claiming the sun is made out of cheese and the sky is red I'd give him a theater to prove his theories. The vast majority of people knew that the earth wasn't flat by his time. It was disproved by the greeks I think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth
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The point where a thread suddenly somehow turns into a debate over religion and atheism.
Unfortunately, some threads actually start this way.
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On August 04 2011 05:19 Derez wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 05:11 psychopat wrote:On August 04 2011 04:48 Deadlyfish wrote:
I hate that whenever there is a thread in the general forum regarding someones death, there will be about a million people going "RIP" "RIP" "RIP XXX" "RIP". It's so annoying, why the hell would i read a thread if nobody says anything but "RIP" in it? Maybe the comments aren't meant for you but more as a show of respect to the deceased, their friends & family. I'm sure that if I posted one of those for a friend or family member, the support would be helpful, even if it's from random stangers. I think family members of recently deceased have something better to do then browse random internet forums lurking for people spamming RIP. I mean, it's understandable if there is some relation between the deceased and TL, but if it comes to like public figures, it only dilutes the actual information in a thread. Do you really think Amy Winehouses family reads these forums? I'm cool and all with someone stating why he/she ment so much to him and why he/she is sad that person died, but page upon page of RIP is just flat out annoying. Especially because its the most generic form of 'support' you can show and it seems like most just do it to bolster their postcount.
I always understood it to mean a show of respect for the dead to your peers and the people around you. There's no real good way, on a forum, to express your unfamiliar sadness to people around you. It's like when a famous musician dies and you reminisce with your friends face-to-face about specific shows, events, or skills they had. Imagine "RIP" is the short-handed way of doing that.
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On August 04 2011 05:27 Gamegene wrote:
People using the word troll.
"Oh it's just some trolls, ignore them."
Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're a troll! Don't try to sweep all the naysayers under the rug by dismissing them as trolls. It's insulting to the actual ones who work VERY hard to get banned!
You're pretty much ignoring the fact that there are people in this world and on this site that will post something specificly to provoke a certain kind of response, just for kicks.
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Agreed on some. "Ruining ESPORTS" or any common joke is fine if it's clever or the timing is right though.
This one to some degree is unavoidable in LR threads, but I still feel it could be minimized with common sense: Suppose someone asks a question that's answer is widely known (or made a glaring error), then like 50 people quote and reply to the same post with the same answer/correction. I think there is a time-frame after which it warrants a quick F5 check or you can safely assume someone already got it.
On a related note, the urge to rush off and correct/throw facts out is so strong that people are correcting people that actually agreed with them, or stating facts that are technically true but useless to the point being discussed. (I guess this is similar to what you were saying )
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On August 04 2011 06:13 HackBenjamin wrote:
You're pretty much ignoring the fact that there are people in this world and on this site that will post something specificly to provoke a certain kind of response, just for kicks.
Did I say that there aren't any trolls?
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I am sick of people thinking that the only Esport in the world is SC2.(they instantly dismiss Dota, LoL and Halo as such).
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You want to know what annoys me? Of course you don't. I don't want to know what annoys you either. That's why there's a letting off steam thread. But I guess it's your blog and I'll gtfo.
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I feel like this blog title would be better off as, "Why I will never be your friend."
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I agree with most of what you said, but I still think people spamming certain words around here need to be punished. Some grounds are holy and unworthy beings are to be kept far far away.
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"hurting ESPORTS" is totally still funny.
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On August 04 2011 07:15 Probe1 wrote:
You want to know what annoys me? Of course you don't. I don't want to know what annoys you either. That's why there's a letting off steam thread. But I guess it's your blog and I'll gtfo.
You already show up in damn near every thread to whine about the OP, and then leave having contributed nothing. At least that's what I've seen in about the last 5 threads you posted in lol. I said it before, and I will repeat it: you really need to lighten up a little man...
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On August 04 2011 08:40 jdseemoreglass wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 07:15 Probe1 wrote:
You want to know what annoys me? Of course you don't. I don't want to know what annoys you either. That's why there's a letting off steam thread. But I guess it's your blog and I'll gtfo. You already show up in damn near every thread to whine about the OP, and then leave having contributed nothing. At least that's what I've seen in about the last 5 threads you posted in lol. I said it before, and I will repeat it: you really need to lighten up a little man...
People complaining about people complaining about people complaining about people complaining.
And now I'm a person complaining about people complaining about people complaining about people complaining about people complaining... =/
So much complaining.
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You know what I'm sick of reading on TL (slash the internet), since we're at it?
Analogies.
ALL analogies are flawed. In fact ALL analogies are bad. Analogies are only reasonable when used to explain things that would otherwise be beyond the readers' comprehension. When Stephen Hawking talks about wormholes or relativity concepts in front of a casual audience, he uses analogies so that his audience would get some vague (though probably fundamentally incorrect) idea about what's going on. It's basically a way to dumb things down.
When you're a random person arguing against other random people in forum about something neither of you are experts in, don't make analogies. When you're talking about really simple, understandable concepts, don't make analogies. It's not only straight up pointless and wrong, it's also condescending.
To be honest if someone can't make a point without making an analogy, he probably doesn't even have one. An analogy isn't a proof that what someone says is right - yet this is exactly what most analogies are attempted for. People actually believe that if they make a seemingly strong enough analogy (though this is only ever the case on a very superficial level) that their point is proven by default, which is just ridiculous.
Now without knowing the context of the example in OP, from experience I can think of a number of points that most commonly reference the analogy about people believing Earth is flat and pretty much all of those points are straight up wrong (just like the analogy itself is).
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On August 04 2011 04:16 jdseemoreglass wrote:
"Why are people bad mannered? Are people becoming more bad mannered? What's wrong with the community?"
I agree with this one the most. Ive never had any respect for people who complain about bm in a public game. I blame ICCUP with their "report bm" bullshit for this trend. They give soft-skinned pussies an excuse to become attention-whores.
I can understand moderating a forum because its usually a place to acquire information hence there needs to be some form of etiquette in order to create value. That is to say, it fosters an environment where reliable information can be found by weeding out irrelevant stuff like troll posts, flaming, flamebait etc. which would otherwise devalue the content of the forum.
But if you get pissed because some random guy in a 1v1 whom you will never meet irl, called you a faggot because you 4 pooled him then you deserved to be ridiculed and taunted for being a pussy.
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On August 04 2011 05:01 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 04:46 jdseemoreglass wrote:On August 04 2011 04:38 Chill wrote:6. You have a join date of August 2010, so I'm not sure why you are telling us how TL used to be. I'm telling you negativity has skyrocketed around here. "Welcome to the internet" indeed, but not welcome to TL. That's it. Most of the people who complain about BM are not talking about TL. Maybe I should have mentioned that. They complain about the BM in games, on bnet, or from streamers, etc. Oh, well that's dumb.
I hate it when someone find one small thing you wrote and picks on that...
In his defense Chill when you say "have a join date of August 2010, so I'm not sure why you are telling us how TL used to be. " is not fair. Just because you have joined recently doesn't mean you can't have made an effort to learn how TL used to be. I know I make that effort as much as possible.
It' a small thing I know but...
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What I am tired of reading:
About people who click on venting posts in the blog section, and complain about reading venting threads.
You realize you can pick and choose what you read yes?
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LoL, I was about to make a rant blog, but then I'd just be ranting about your thread... So I've decided against it. You should have added to your rant list: "Things I'm Sick of Reading on TL". You can add yours and the one I was going to write up. Drinkiiinnngggggg btw you're hurting e-sports, seriously.
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