Well i wanna start 10 years back when i was around 16.
I never was into any drugs or pardy till then becouse i never liked it. I was always sceptical about the usage of chemical drugs such as ectasy and speed. I also didnt wanted to smoke joints since i found it pretty uncool (my parents used to do it in theire youth and i was rebelling against my parents there). I pretty much hate alcohol (the trip and the effects at the next morning).
Well when i visited thailand i met some nice US guys and they used to pardy with me... so when i went out with them i started to smoke alot and i loved it Back to germany i easyly found some people who share that passion and so i somehow got into it. After a half a year we were like 8 people meeting regulary at my place making pardy be4 we went into town to hit the clubs.
Well i always prefered to hang out with the "quiet" people, i think becouse they were always good at listening and hanging out stoned. So i really had a nice friendship gooing with one of this "quiet" guys, he was really happy around me (it seemed) and so i thought everything was cool.
All of the sudden it seemed he was hearing voices, but he didnt told me, so we were still hanging out on daily bases, smoking and making phylosophical discussions... One day he brought like 100g of weed but it seemed it was cracking him up. Long story short... he placed that infront of his parent and sad to them "they want to get me, please help", and the next day he was in psychatrie... He got heavy medication becouse of the voices and the paranoia and soon he was in closed psychatric and suffered alot there it seemed. When he came back he wasnt the same anymore... I could never hang out with him again becouse it seem to hurt my head when he was around. So i moved on and thought the best thing is to not bother him anymore since i still smoke and make a lot of pardy and it seemed this lifestyle has cracked him up.
4 Years later the same thing happend again and now (another 5 years later) this happened the third time.
I have never noticed anything beside they getting even more silent and started to act strange from time to time... nothing special maybe a innapropiade respond to a question or something like that. Im really getting upset about this and i really was one of the few person they hang out with daily, and everytime i bond with them i considered them my best friends.
Im a little paranoid myself but i think only becouse i used to take drugs and live in a town where police are really into huntig little druggies :D so it seemes legit to me (i get controlled by police every 2 weeks or so)...
Anyway i was wondering if im the source of all that madness spreading around me and im really stop contact to all those who seem a bit instable, becouse probably im a bad influence for them... But since i like them the most to hang out with, i really get depressed about it.
Maybe im concluding wrong and im dont have anything to do with this, but it really starting to affect how i handle people. Now im always afraid of sharing my thoughts or my elemtary believes since i dont know what pulled the trigger in the head of them.
Maybe i could have shorten this a little, but i dont want to have this people posting, who dont ever had such experience that i did... They probably wont get it :/ I never had any symtoms of psychosis. Im really not a addict... i only smoke like one or two joint a weekend now and mybe a lsd or shroom trip once a year. (well i let you decide there) I never drink, and the rest of the time im a regular usual guy...
I dont want to discuss this with my friends becouse they also know them but they have no idea what happened :/
Feel free to comment if you have anything useful to say...
On August 01 2011 05:18 Trowabarton756 wrote: They aren't really "close" friends if all you guys want to do together is get high.
Yeah you are right but we discussed a lot of things i helped him out if there was anything to do and he as well. We went out at the weekend together... We both had a girlfriend in the crew we used to hang out in together...
Theother guy i met at university and we study together.
The third guy i was working with and we used to go to his friends for playing poker...
I just put focus on smoking weed becouse i think its importand to understand the case :/
Just dont focus to much on smoking weed when u read it becouse i just dont drink alcohol and prefer weed (wich might has cracked them up)
yeah i think u have a responsibility here if you care about it
alcohol abuse can lead to psychosis and after i got that i found that weed often done the same
so if you are smoking with someone who is prone to psychosis then i think you are doing the right thing by avoiding smoking (and drinking) with them.
its like inviting a guy out to get drunk when you know he will drink-drive home.
if you want to actively help someone like this then maybe you can suggest an activity without weed or drink and show them they can have a good time without it (or without it in excess at least)
idk its a tricky one. weed is such an easy life-style to sink into and a person needs to find value in other things before they can escape from it. dating girls, doing something creative, having a job, going to the gym... these all require you to be sober but also add some value that replaces the pleasure of being high
I'm a medical marijuana user in California (so I smoke a lot of cannabis) and I have found that after constant cannabis use -- e.g., every day -- one can become "burned out." The same effect occurs if you consume too much. For example, I make my own edibles and whenever I eat too much of one the next day I feel very groggy and generally spaced out. This uneasiness can last for days afterward (though is usually alleviated by vaping another bowl, haha).
I suggest that you just take a break from consuming cannabis or other illicit drugs for a while. It's important to balance the consumption of cannabis (or any other drug for that matter) with a sober lifestyle. Like most things we consume, anything in excess can become harmful.
nowadays ive learnt to not drink much in public, and when i do let myself go (at home) i try to be quite conscious of chatting online or phoning people up because i know i might be out of control.
im also afraid to smoke weed in public and even with friends just because of how uncomfortable it can make me feel (psychotic). so i guess i avoid it, or am at least not falling over myself trying to do it anymore
On August 01 2011 05:28 Rayzorblade wrote: I'm a medical marijuana user in California (so I smoke a lot of cannabis) and I have found that after constant cannabis use -- e.g., every day -- one can become "burned out." The same effect occurs if you consume too much. For example, I make my own edibles and whenever I eat too much of one the next day I feel very groggy and generally spaced out. This uneasiness can last for days afterward (though is usually alleviated by vaping another bowl, haha).
I suggest that you just take a break from consuming cannabis or other illicit drugs for a while. It's important to balance the consumption of cannabis (or any other drug for that matter) with a sober lifestyle. Like most things we consume, anything in excess can become harmful.
Hehe i dont really suffer from anything i still like to smoke at the weekend and will still do so. Maybe u have missread the whole thing
I have used it daily until i was 23 or something but then i had to work and i stoped to do so.
On August 01 2011 05:23 FFGenerations wrote: ...a person needs to find value in other things before they can escape from it. dating girls, doing something creative, having a job, going to the gym... these all require you to be sober but also add some value that replaces the pleasure of being high
I think he said it best: "find value in other things." I noticed that ever since I started going to the gym every other day, while still smoking cannabis, makes me feel great. Since I'm in uni, and I'm a writer, I have a lot of things to engage me other than cannabis. And the things that I find pleasurable normally are even cooler when smoking.
Also, I think it's a good idea if you don't smoke or drink around your friends. You should do activities that are still fun and engaging without the drugs.
really i guess if you meet someone who is showing signs of psychotic behaviour you should just make them aware of the dangers of it (that you have personally experienced!) and that you dont feel it is acceptable, and go from there
On August 01 2011 05:33 FFGenerations wrote: really i guess if you meet someone who is showing signs of psychotic behaviour you should just make them aware of the dangers of it (that you have personally experienced!) and that you dont feel it is acceptable, and go from there
yeah the problem is i never had any big problem with smoking beside maybe being lazy. I dont really understand what they are suffering from so i really cant give any advice there :/
i mean your experience with your friend going nuts. just tell them "you should be careful and tone it down a bit with the weed, you've been acting a bit psychotic sometimes and that can get worse if you dont be careful. ive seen people end up in hospital because of this"
I really don't know what to say here but since i read the whole blog i need to comment!
I've heard stories about people getting psychosis from smoking but still keeps smoking a lot. Imo then it's seriously their own "stupidity" if they keep doing it even though they can't handle it. Especially if you still keep smoking as much as last time it triggered the psychosis.
But FFGenerations said it really good. It's good to not smoke with someone who have had/has psychosis(or mental issues) of somekind. It's like doing bad/tough drugs in front of an ex-addict.
All i want to say to you OP (and everyone who is reading), don't over do the smoking. Especially if you have/had someone in your family who has/had some kind of mental issues. Getting psychosis is a bitch.
On August 01 2011 05:36 FFGenerations wrote: i mean your experience with your friend going nuts. just tell them "you should be careful and tone it down a bit with the weed, you've been acting a bit psychotic sometimes and that can get worse if you dont be careful. ive seen people end up in hospital because of this"
On August 01 2011 05:37 Grettin wrote: I really don't know what to say here but since i read the whole blog i need to comment!
I've heard stories about people getting psychosis from smoking but still keeps smoking a lot. Imo then it's seriously their own "stupidity" if they keep doing it even though they can't handle it. Especially if you still keep smoking as much as last time it triggered the psychosis.
But FFGenerations said it really good. It's good to not smoke with someone who have had/has easily psychosis of somekind. It's like doing bad/tough drugs in front of an ex-addict.
All i want to say to you OP (and everyone who is reading), don't over do the smoking. Especially if you have/had someone in your family who has/had some kind of mental issues. Getting psychosis is a bitch.
Yeah after hearing that i never wanted to smoke again with them. One of them really wanted to smoke with me like in the old times and after him question me for like about a week (i always sad i have no time...) i agreed next week he had a psychosis again and i stoped contact totally...
On August 01 2011 05:40 MiraKul wrote: Kid, just dont do drug. You might end up like one of them.
That is just me talking, but don't stop smoking if you enjoy it, you can handle it and won't over do it. But if you cant handle it then by no means drop it.
On August 01 2011 05:40 MiraKul wrote: Kid, just dont do drug. You might end up like one of them.
That is just me talking, but don't stop smoking if you enjoy it, you can handle it and won't over do it. But if you cant handle it then by no means drop it.
But thats just my opinion.
No i totally agree and i had to make a hard cut to get "everything on the row" I stopped smoking when i started to work. And i would advice anyone who wanna make a change in his life to stop taking drugs during that.
Everithing seems pretty comfortable till you run out of money ^^ I had some trouble getting to work on time... so now i only smoke at the weekend.
But im not an issue here i can handle that drug pretty good and i dont see any bad effects on my life.
Still i would love to not be afrait to share my opinion and my lifestyle with my friends who are also comfortable with doing so.
But this happening over and over to my friends also start to make me aware of the danger involved.
lol thats exacly what i think about the topic when im stoned atm im sober and not so happy when i think about this topic ^^ anyway i will just probably dont smoke infront of them and try to make some usual stuff with them more. Thanks TL :D
thats a common presentation of schizophrenia, sorry to hear about your friend. Edit: wait, re-reading it, it happened to 3 different people? , well now schizophrenia doesnt seem very probable, but still it resembles the presentation..
On August 01 2011 09:32 Ihsahn wrote: thats a common presentation of schizophrenia, sorry to hear about your friend. Edit: wait, re-reading it, it happened to 3 different people? , well now schizophrenia doesnt seem very probable, but still it resembles the presentation..
Thats the thing... Maybe i have just bad luck or i already choosing friends on that... i really dunno but it creepes me up as well.
I have like 100 friends 10 good friends and 3 of them getting to the hospital something seemed wrong here :/
Even 2 of my best friends have commited suizide... and no one was a heavy drug user...
If i reduce it to this numbers its pretty fucked up ~25% of my good friends get insame ~15% kill themselfes the rest seem pretty happy and succesfull
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