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experience on taiwan server

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rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 23:54:31
July 16 2011 23:46 GMT
#1
I recently got my cousin to buy me a copy of sc2 from a 7-11 to get ready for the kr/tw server merge.

my chinese is pretty pathetic so i somehow accidentally put myself in practice league TTwTT. it took me a few minutes before i figured out how to get out of it but then i had to play 3 bronze leaguers in a row for placements. Go 5-0 and placed into platinum. I could probably have placed into diamond if I hadn't accidentally selected practice league but hindsight is 20/20.

i've played 20 games on the server so far

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the first thing i noticed is that i have bad lag. like, atrocibad, horribad lag. i'm playing from california and i've got at least 500 ms of delay. my tracert to tw.logon.battle.net goes up to around 300-400 ms. when i played from taiwan to the NA server a few months back it seemed a lot smoother, though i didn't actually check the numbers then. i'm moving into a new apartment in august so i'm hoping for a better ISP.

players and strategies on TW seem to be more or less the same as my experience on NA. i was kind of surprised that players in bronze league actually attempted "real" build orders, though to be fair i haven't played any low leaguers since placement matches in retail. there are also a lot of non-TW players on this server; all my losses were to brand new accounts with less than 10 games played. right now i've mostly been stuck playing diamond players though i guess 20 games isn't enough to reach masters.

here's a battle report of a ladder game i played against a gm on TW

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matchup is tvp xelnaga, my opponent protoss (gargamelex) on the bottom left and me as the terran in the top right. i open with a 13gas intending to go banshees, because i wanted to get quick wins to raise my mmr. protoss opens double gas but ends up going 4gate.
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the good ol' 4gate into council into robo into nexus build. my banshee flies in but his obs is almost already done.
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a mere 3 kills before being driven off, but it's okay, the protoss doesn't like making probes. i get 4raxes and an ebay for quick upgrades.

my second banshee comes in for some sick (!!!) harass, but i completely forget that i have a second banshee, so it's not a lot of damage.

being quite down on worker count (i've killed a total of 7 workers now) my opponent decides it's time to deal some punishment with his impressive chargelot army
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i bring the full force of my massive 272 apm to walk my army right past his
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kiting's not easy in half a second of lag TTwTT
i'm left with 9 stalkers vs 7 marines and 3 marauders + 2 medivacs
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awwwww yeahhh 1-1 terran bio
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he's down on econ and i've taken my gold third, so he tries to kill my PF before it can finish
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terrannnnnnnn


i checked my opponent after the match and i was like "hahahahahahaha are you serious." i guess the problem with a small server population is that you end up with some pretty terrible people in GM. i think it'll be pretty funny when the server merge happens and a good chunk of GMs end up in platinum, but i'm looking quite forward to getting owned on KR when the 19th rolls around.

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OscarN
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Cape Verde292 Posts
July 17 2011 00:36 GMT
#2
This like blew my mine
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
July 17 2011 00:39 GMT
#3
Yeah. I have a friend who is masters on Taiwan, but i can beat at mid Diamond NA. He got an account for this summer when he is staying there.
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
July 17 2011 02:47 GMT
#4
Im on east coast of USA and the lag doesn't seem bad. Maybe I'm just oblivious.
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
July 17 2011 05:54 GMT
#5
On July 17 2011 11:47 Rotodyne wrote:
Im on east coast of USA and the lag doesn't seem bad. Maybe I'm just oblivious.

If that's true maybe the OP should post his tracert.
ChineseWife
Profile Joined August 2010
United States373 Posts
July 18 2011 05:46 GMT
#6
i've been playing on the TW server with very minimal lag from California. I only really notice when I switch back to NA. Got placed in diamond, but have been beating grandmaster players on ladder lol. I'm guessing that master league is really small because I've only been matched with like 5 masters and 3 GM (one of them 5 times in a row lol)
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 18 2011 05:47 GMT
#7
Guess this explains the linking of servers now.
The issue is. If you get top GM over there, will you get an invite to Blizzcon even though you're terrible in NA?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
ChineseWife
Profile Joined August 2010
United States373 Posts
July 18 2011 06:04 GMT
#8
lol what im wondering is if my current mmr puts me with grandmaster players and i've won a few, will my mmr stay up there when the merge happens? it would be hilarious to get matched with top korean masters / gm and just get WRECKED
Oops I made no units
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 18 2011 06:06 GMT
#9
On July 18 2011 15:04 ChineseWife wrote:
lol what im wondering is if my current mmr puts me with grandmaster players and i've won a few, will my mmr stay up there when the merge happens? it would be hilarious to get matched with top korean masters / gm and just get WRECKED


Yes, MMR remains the same..
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
July 18 2011 06:25 GMT
#10
i could have sworn they said they were going to reset the MMR of the smaller server; ie LA and TW are gonna have MMR reset when they're integrated into NA/KR
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