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VeNoM HaZ Skill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
July 14 2011 14:12 GMT
#1
It's always there. Right after you log in. Sitting in the left corner, colored yellow. "Notice me!" it screams. You click on it today, only to find sorrow.

Throughout my liquibet career, one thing has kept me going: The individual leagues. Bombing out from the proleague bets, only collecting pity points from the SKT/CJ/Stars votes, I rely on my shiny 89% right in the individual leagues to get me through. Until today...

A few days ago I logged in and found possibly the hardest set of bets in front of me. My normal methods are of no use to me when faced with a challenge this difficult. I was forced to do the unspeakable: Cross my fingers and hope for the best.
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Why?!?!?! This is 400x more difficult than the group of death last MSL, where my fanboyism (and intense dislike of Flash) cost me dearly.

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Damn you Bisu!!! Damn you and your amazing hair!!!
I honestly misclicked Flash instead of JD also

But seriously, lets look at the first group for a minute.

First is Horang2 vs Ssak. This was a difficult choice because it was not a PvP, which meant Horang2 is just your average player, much like Ssak. They are both adept at losing games they should have won, and winning games the should've lost and fucking up your proleague bets!!!! And while Horang2 has put up better recent results, my man Ssak is on the best fucking team ever. But, assuming that it was just wishful thinking, I picked Horang2.

Kal vs Hero or Terrible vs Even Worse. I mean seriously?! This is just impossible, so close your eyes and click a lot, maybe you'll vote by accident. No matter who won this match, neither of them were making it out of the group....

Atleast today brought better tidings:
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Screw you Shine...


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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
July 14 2011 14:23 GMT
#2
Yes today was easy for me too
that sucks aha.

I've completely given up on bw this season but i was in the top 50 for sc2 for so long now im wayyyyy down to like 300 or something

one season ill be the very best just you wait and see!
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
July 14 2011 14:26 GMT
#3
I first thought that Mong was actually a random b teamer and not ssak (who himself is a random b teamer) so I autovoted horang2 (who is the worst person to autovote) and he lost. Thanks horang2. And in terms of advancement, I thought that he could actually play semi-decent games against people who don't play semi-decent games and lose to horang2's beastly PvP, and horang2 could advance because he would be able to beat Kal and ssak.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
July 14 2011 14:29 GMT
#4
lol omg
my LB for MSL Group 4 looks EXACTLY the same as yours. Similar voting logic too...

- Kal vs Herojoin: well Herojoin is a bad rookie (and his face always has like a cocky sneer) but Kal is terribad right now... argh I'll just hope Kal pulls another miracle shuttle. Voted Kal.
- Mong(Ssak) vs Horang2: Horang2 is a macro MONSTER and I don't think Ssak has an exceptional TvP so therefore PvT Horang2 gunna take this. Voted Horang2
- Group: Well with my guesses so far, it'll be Horang2 vs Kal where Horang2 will activate his PvP_Bonjwa_mode and ezpz this. In the losers, Ssak vs Herojoin oh God this is going to be a laughfest ok I believe in TvZ so Ssak wins. So for final match Ssak vs Kal - although it's TvP and Ssak isn't that good, Kal is just so bad that he can barely beat Herojoin and lose to Ssak... so I picked Horang2 and Ssak.

The result: same as you! Yay, great minds (think alike and) fail together! >_<
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