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Original exxo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States257 Posts
July 11 2011 00:35 GMT
#1
I have a dilemma. I type with one one finger on each hand and hence when I play sc2 I only use my index finger for every hotkey/command(not counting pinky for when I shift)
Should I start somehow getting out of this style(which I have been doing for years) because im sure it hampers my eapm. Do any pros only use one finger for the left hand commands?
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
July 11 2011 00:36 GMT
#2
You should learn how to properly type with all of your fingers, this will allow you to break your bad habit much easier as well, if it hampers your actions then you should fix it!
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
July 11 2011 00:37 GMT
#3
no I don't think its possible to play high level like that

its certainly possible to play and have fun


and unless you literally only have one finger I highly suggest you use them all
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
July 11 2011 00:38 GMT
#4
On July 11 2011 09:37 ShooTouts wrote:
no I don't think its possible to play high level like that

its certainly possible to play and have fun


and unless you literally only have one finger I highly suggest you use them all

This...if you're disabled with literally only 1 finger than do your best in owning scrubs with all their fingers (I'm sure there's satisfaction in that), but it's time to learn to type my friend.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
July 11 2011 00:39 GMT
#5
It will be very very had, but hey there is a quadriplegic gamer!
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DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
July 11 2011 00:43 GMT
#6
Playing high level of SC2 using one finger? no unless you have got some god like speed finger. I wouldnt say you cant play with one finger but if you mean GM level then i doubt you can.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
Original exxo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States257 Posts
July 11 2011 00:43 GMT
#7
Haha
time to learn to type I guess
this will take years >.<
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 11 2011 00:44 GMT
#8
play typing of the dead for a week
RonaldTimmins
Profile Joined July 2011
44 Posts
July 11 2011 00:44 GMT
#9
I cannot answer your question but I will tell you a related story:

I used to play WC3 with only 1 finger. Once I learned how to touch type with all fingers, my WC3 APM increased along with my skill.

I would learn how to touch type and then play SC2 once you do. Two benefits you will see are:

1) Higher SC2 apm
2) Healthier typing habits



turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
July 11 2011 00:45 GMT
#10
I can't even force myself to type normally with two fingers, let alone play sc2. Typing of the dead, goooooooooooooo
Artifice
Profile Joined May 2010
United States523 Posts
July 11 2011 00:48 GMT
#11
There are people on the internet that type with two fingers?
EtohEtoh
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada669 Posts
July 11 2011 00:49 GMT
#12
that would be pretty difficult if you ask me, but its always possible to learn to type with more than one finger, hell you could probably just learn to play with your entire left hand withouut learning to type with your entire hand
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
July 11 2011 00:49 GMT
#13
Really I'd recommend just learning to type - in today's world it's such a useful skill.
That said, if you're having that hard of a time doing it, you could try switching to a grid layout. You'd still need to use multiple fingers, but you're not having to find keys throughout the keyboard, since they're basically all within reach of your hand when it's just sitting there on the keyboard.
Motat
Profile Joined November 2010
315 Posts
July 11 2011 00:51 GMT
#14
I don't mean to sound offensive, but if you're too lazy to learn how to use the rest of your fingers, you're going to be too lazy to practice ALOT to become a pro gamer.

To answer your question, no it's not possible.
PM me for coaching. I'm a mid masters zerg player.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
July 11 2011 00:53 GMT
#15
how do you play anything besides starcraft2

like an FPS for example, do you also just use one finger there? :o
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Original exxo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 00:54:15
July 11 2011 00:53 GMT
#16
Just got Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing programs
hopefully an hour a day for a week can help a little

for shooting games awsd is just natural after a while(like typing with just the index finger )
primebeef
Profile Joined October 2010
United States140 Posts
July 11 2011 00:54 GMT
#17
The pros do not use one finger, but some do have low apm(off the top of my head, axslav or so only has about 70 something avg apm, so if you can match that/ are efficient with it, it shouldn't matter as much.
-{Cake}-
Profile Joined October 2010
United States217 Posts
July 11 2011 00:54 GMT
#18
When I first skimmed this, I thought you only actually had one finger on each hand o.O

But you do need to use more fingers, maybe if you're really bad, play some fps that uses wsad to move to get used to using others
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
July 11 2011 00:56 GMT
#19
Heh, I don't really understand how people can't take the time to at the very least learn how to type with all their fingers. You don't need insane WPM or anything but proper typing technique doesn't take long to learn.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 11 2011 00:56 GMT
#20
It would be greatly beneficial not just for your play but for other computer activities to learn to utilize the rest of your hands, just take it slowly and you will definitely see it pay off soon.
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Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
July 11 2011 00:56 GMT
#21
Maybe try some Nexus Word Wars, it's an Sc2 Custom map that relies on typing quickly.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 11 2011 00:57 GMT
#22
On July 11 2011 09:35 Original exxo wrote:
I have a dilemma. I type with one one finger on each hand and hence when I play sc2 I only use my index finger for every hotkey/command(not counting pinky for when I shift)
Should I start somehow getting out of this style(which I have been doing for years) because im sure it hampers my eapm. Do any pros only use one finger for the left hand commands?


This is how I type for the most part. It's how I have always typed, though I used to be even worse about it.

I was quite good at brood war, and I am alright at sc2 with little time/effort invested. But let me tell you, this typing style is of HUGE detriment and it will be very difficult to play with a high apm. Sorry, that's just how it is.


And actually to be honest, my typing got a little less reliant on "just 2 fingers" because of me taking brood war seriously. I had to develop better use/control in some of my other fingers.... but it never got good I was just too conditioned in how I typed.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
July 11 2011 00:57 GMT
#23
Sorry for off topic but how do you capitalize letters?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 11 2011 00:58 GMT
#24
On July 11 2011 09:57 Bibbit wrote:
Sorry for off topic but how do you capitalize letters?


i am sure he's exaggerating.. if he's like me then what he means is that 90% of his typing is done with his pointer fingers.

and ppl might be amazed at how high of a wpm you can actually have typing like that.
isleyofthenorth
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Austria894 Posts
July 11 2011 00:58 GMT
#25
On July 11 2011 09:44 RonaldTimmins wrote:

2) Healthier typing habits





is it medically dangerous to type with 1 finger? o.O
sertman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States540 Posts
July 11 2011 00:58 GMT
#26
On July 11 2011 09:35 Original exxo wrote:
Should I start somehow getting out of this style(which I have been doing for years) because im sure it hampers my eapm. Do any pros only use one finger for the left hand commands?


wait if you only type with one finger on each hand how on earth did you make that typo
isleyofthenorth
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Austria894 Posts
July 11 2011 01:00 GMT
#27
On July 11 2011 09:58 patzernuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:35 Original exxo wrote:
Should I start somehow getting out of this style(which I have been doing for years) because im sure it hampers my eapm. Do any pros only use one finger for the left hand commands?


wait if you only type with one finger on each hand how on earth did you make that typo


he means effective apm...
eourcs
Profile Joined February 2011
United States459 Posts
July 11 2011 01:01 GMT
#28
On July 11 2011 09:58 patzernuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 09:35 Original exxo wrote:
Should I start somehow getting out of this style(which I have been doing for years) because im sure it hampers my eapm. Do any pros only use one finger for the left hand commands?


wait if you only type with one finger on each hand how on earth did you make that typo


He probably means efficient apm, it's not used in sc2, but it was used in bw.
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DOMINOSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada345 Posts
July 11 2011 01:03 GMT
#29
i type very fast with only 1 finger(about 80 wpm) but i play sc2 with all my fingers im trying to learn to touch type.
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Qurid
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands32 Posts
July 11 2011 01:04 GMT
#30
I had this habbit too for a long time, the best way to practice typing with more then 1 finger is playing games which require you to press more then 1 button at a time, with Starcraft 2 for example you could basically play with pressing only 1 button at a time, ofcourse you would suck alot, but with a FPS game for example it requires you to press WASD (To walk), R for reloading and Q for example to switch weapons quickly, an MMO could also help with this.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 11 2011 01:05 GMT
#31
You can probably hit diamond and MAYBE low masters with 1 finger, but realistically you are not going to be able to do as much as you need to. Simple scenario. How do you a-move 2 control groups of units, while macroing? Do you move your index finger and 1-a-2-a and then 3aaddd?

Because I played fps's for so long, for the longest time I hit all hotkeys with either middle or index finger. I could hit 5 but that's about as far as I could stretch. I hit a wall somewhere around high diamond where I just needed more hotkeys, and thus I spent about a week learning to hit 1 with my ring finger. Suddenly I could reach two more hokeys with relative ease, and could improve my control by that much while still retaining my macro, in addition to speeding up a bit because my fingers spend less time travelling.

Long story short - learn to type properly and you'll get a lot faster, guaranteed. None of the pros I've seen use one finger, or even two to hit hotkeys. They all use 3, and in some cases 4.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
algorithm0r
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada486 Posts
July 11 2011 01:06 GMT
#32
How long did it take you to type your post?

Two finger typing on TL should be bannable.

If you two finger type do you look at the keyboard for every hotkey? That basically is wasting your "eye" apm too. You should use every glance for the screen not the keyboard.

Learn to type (ltt) so you can learn to play (ltp).
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 01:10:18
July 11 2011 01:06 GMT
#33
I would say it should be possible to get into diamond with using only one finger on the keyboard... I don't know if you consider that high level play or not... but that's like top 12% or so. Key is, you'd have to be master level player to get that high, and the large handicap would cripple one's ranking.

Main problem would be setting and using control groups (which would be impossible), which is very important.

The other huge problem with using only finger, is it also results in not knowing exactly where each key is, making reaction time slower (aside from the slow reaction of always having to move around fingers). With a full hand on the keyboard, the fingers will be mapping the keyboard, allowing any key to be accessed easily without looking at the keyboard.

just as arrow keys WASD, jump/shoot/etc. are memorized and readilty pressable in other types of games like platformers and shooters, the major hotkeys used to play SC2 should also be memorized and readily-pressable.

Nexus word wars is a fun sc2 typing game that can be used to practice typing skills, but might be hard to play random pubs without friends.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
wasabe
Profile Joined July 2011
Japan26 Posts
July 11 2011 01:06 GMT
#34
lol is this serious? sounds like troll to me
Original exxo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States257 Posts
July 11 2011 01:09 GMT
#35
On July 11 2011 10:05 Amui wrote:
You can probably hit diamond and MAYBE low masters with 1 finger, but realistically you are not going to be able to do as much as you need to. Simple scenario. How do you a-move 2 control groups of units, while macroing? Do you move your index finger and 1-a-2-a and then 3aaddd?

Because I played fps's for so long, for the longest time I hit all hotkeys with either middle or index finger. I could hit 5 but that's about as far as I could stretch. I hit a wall somewhere around high diamond where I just needed more hotkeys, and thus I spent about a week learning to hit 1 with my ring finger. Suddenly I could reach two more hokeys with relative ease, and could improve my control by that much while still retaining my macro, in addition to speeding up a bit because my fingers spend less time travelling.

Long story short - learn to type properly and you'll get a lot faster, guaranteed. None of the pros I've seen use one finger, or even two to hit hotkeys. They all use 3, and in some cases 4.


That is how I do it >.<


Thanks for the advice guys! I'm going to try really hard to get the touch typing down pat using some programs/type games and then I hope itll translate to better sc2 skill ^_^
Yergidy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2107 Posts
July 11 2011 01:14 GMT
#36
I don't understand why you don't just learn to type. It will take more practice to get good doing it the wrong way than learning the right way...
One bright day in the middle of the night, Two dead boys got up to fight; Back to back they faced each other, Drew their swords and shot each other.
SnowSC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States678 Posts
July 11 2011 01:19 GMT
#37
If you want to play well at all this seems like a very obvious thing to work on, if not its trading a ton of efficiency for nothing
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
July 11 2011 01:19 GMT
#38
On July 11 2011 10:03 DOMINOSC wrote:
i type very fast with only 1 finger(about 80 wpm)
I call BS. Maybe you mean 2 fingers (1 on each hand), but even then I'd say that extremely unlikely.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
July 11 2011 01:21 GMT
#39
You know you might be able to use SC2 to learn to use all of your fingers, I learned to touch type from playing WoW for a couple years a long time ago, and sort of just picked up touch typing from trying to talk while raiding without wasting much time.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 11 2011 01:21 GMT
#40
On July 11 2011 10:19 Xapti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 10:03 DOMINOSC wrote:
i type very fast with only 1 finger(about 80 wpm)
I call BS. Maybe you mean 2 fingers (1 on each hand), but even then I'd say that extremely unlikely.


I type even faster than that with 2 fingers, though I do use my left thumb for space bar.
svefnleysi
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland623 Posts
July 11 2011 01:35 GMT
#41
No one types with one finger. Not even 8 year old girls. Bad troll.
Keldrath
Profile Joined July 2010
United States449 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 01:41:26
July 11 2011 01:40 GMT
#42
high level no, but u can still play anyways. i would recommend slowly starting to incorporate other fingers and get used to it gradually, for the sake of your own enjoyment at the very least.

On July 11 2011 10:35 svefnleysi wrote:
No one types with one finger. Not even 8 year old girls. Bad troll.


thats not true, my dad does.
If you want peace... prepare for war.
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
July 11 2011 02:35 GMT
#43
Really doubt it, and if I were you I would learn how to touch type before trying to play 'high level' SC. Makes using the computer A LOT easier.
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9618 Posts
July 11 2011 03:38 GMT
#44
i started typing with just my two pointers and kept the WPM pretty high but then reflex made me start using my left ring finger for the bottom keys
DeepBlu2
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States975 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 05:10:15
July 11 2011 05:07 GMT
#45
I typed with my 2 point fingers only mostly but I'd use my pinky for shift and such. I'm not completely using 2 fingers, but close to it. With BW and sc2, that improved a lot though. If you find yourself in Bronze, as you naturally get better at the game, your typing will use more fingers/gain speed as well. It's not something you should consciously think about as it will improve naturally. Also, My WPM is around 90. Now, I use 4 fingers mostly. sometimes, 6...Overall, just play.. It will improve over time naturally.
u gotta sk8
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
July 11 2011 05:15 GMT
#46
It honestly will not take you too long to learn and get used to typing better. I recommend typing a good long blog about it while only using good typing habits, It couldn't hurt.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
July 11 2011 05:19 GMT
#47
Ahh that would make kind of a cute story (assuming you have all fingers but just use the one on your left for keyboard actions of course since that would be sad if all you had is one :/ ) that your learning to play by using 1 finger to command stuff. Learning to type was hard for me as a young kid in school but I have one tip, get a cover for the keys so you can better learn them, for some reason that orange key cover is the one thing my mind associates with me learning to type. Good luck dude, you'll be using all fingers in no time with some typing practice I'm sure!
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 05:26:30
July 11 2011 05:25 GMT
#48
I actually type with mostly two fingers, but I play games with my whole hand. I never learned how to type properly, but I learned how to hunt and peck at an insane speed without looking at the keyboard by playing Nethack and MUDs when I was growing up. It's strange because I come closer to proper typing when I'm gaming than when I'm actually typing.

Mind you, I suck at Starcraft, but I think that's got more to do with lack of practice, I never play more than a couple games a week.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
July 11 2011 07:33 GMT
#49
Uhh yeah like a lot of people are saying, use your fingers ^^

I had a friend once that only used 1 finger on each hand, was painful for me to watch, yet made me feel like a pro xD
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edc
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States666 Posts
July 11 2011 07:40 GMT
#50
How old are you? If you're older than 10 I think you should definitely know how to type with all your fingers. There are programs on the Internet you can use to improve your typing skills. If you want to be successful at Starcraft you must use the keyboard quickly and efficiently.
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gn0m
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden302 Posts
July 11 2011 15:15 GMT
#51
If you really want to get good, I suggest you change your habits. It is just a matter of devotion and practice. However, if a blind guy can play BW, you can easily reach master rank by only using one finger:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=10490
(the VOD has unfortunately been removed)



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