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Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 02:56:59
July 10 2011 01:26 GMT
#1
I can't believe this is my first Blog..

This is no white-knighting or trying to protect the poor girl.


Okay I didnt see all of her interviews, but I saw a lot of reactions, from making fun of her to reasonnable criticism to the usual disgusting sexism.
Who is she?
She's someone who obviously doesn't know a lot about Starcraft or "the community" ( hate that word), but she's enthusiastic about what she does and she tries her best.
Here's a video, credit goes to AskJoshy:


You want Starcraft to go mainstream, you don't want Nerds to be laughed at, you want "the community" to grow?
Be nice to people who are new. Respect that someone has no idea but tries. Help noobs instead of making fun of them.

Its okay to laugh about funny stuff she says and it's okay to say she needs to learn about the game ( as an interviewer of COURSE) , but learn to have some respect.

When you judge Lindsey or others, ignore their gender, seriously, just judge on what people say and do and ignore their race or gender.
Reducing girls to "Wow she is smoking hot" is as bad as calling them ugly bitches.
Compliments on the looks by a random stranger on the internet? Nah..

100 good posts may lead to not a single person reacting or giving a shit.
1 bad post gives you waves of attention.
Analyzing that shit may raise some as well... let's see


Edit 1 :Many people responded to this line:
Reducing girls to "Wow she is smoking hot" is as bad as calling them ugly bitches.

Yes I know it's pushed a bit far, but I think it underlines what point I'm trying to make. Calling you'Re girlfriend hot or complimenting a good friend of yours is something completely different then reducing someone to his physical appearance on the internet.

Edit 2:
On July 10 2011 10:39 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 10:26 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
..

This is no white-knighting....


Yes it is.

Everything I'm saying is my honest opinion. Thanks for responding to that one line ignoring the important parts.

Edit 3: + Show Spoiler +
On July 10 2011 10:39 Probe1 wrote:
I'd rather Starcraft stays just how it is instead of becoming MNF.
Show nested quote +
reactions, from making fun of her to reasonnable criticism to the usual disgusting sexism.

People will be disgusting ban bait. Then they will magically go away. It sucks but that's the internet. I won't address whatever sexism was going on. But I will say there's a hell of a lot more reasonable criticism and/or mocking than straight up sexism.

Show nested quote +
She's someone who obviously doesn't know a lot about Starcraft or "the community" ( hate that word), but she's enthusiastic about what she does and she tries her best.


We kinda are a community but I hate the term econ cheese so to each their own. But I see no defense for someone that doesn't know "a lot" (A generous way of putting it) about what they're talking about representing an organization.

She did interviews that were only memorable because of how tragic they were. She didn't know wtf she was talking about. It wasn't very good content.

My thoughts are they prominently featured women for sex appeal, not intelligence or intriguing interviewer skills. So mocking them seems fair game to me. However I've been trying (unsuccessfully) to keep my fingers quiet as I don't think its pertinent to bash someone after stating my opinion.


I don't really care wether it get's mainstream or not however I thought the majority of people wants to.
Of course women are featured for sex appeal, and that sucks, but thats the system and not the girls fault.

***
This is our town, scrub
dasanivan
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 01:33:21
July 10 2011 01:32 GMT
#2
i dont agree "wow she is smoking hot" is as bad as calling girls ugly. in fact girls like to be called smoking hot. please keep that in mind when you have a girlfriend.

also i agree with the fact that the community can be acrid towards certain people. but maybe.. boys will be boys. i'd say many people who don't speak up totally appreciate the work certain people are trying to do.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
July 10 2011 01:34 GMT
#3
So if we say Bisu is smoking hot, we are hurting esports as well?
OscarN
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Cape Verde292 Posts
July 10 2011 01:34 GMT
#4
Yeah this community can hurt u for little mistake, but whatever, its all people trying to fit in with everyone els making fun of her.

goodluck in the future Lindsey
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 01:35:10
July 10 2011 01:35 GMT
#5
at least she's trying

give her a chance she hasn't even done anything with SC (that we know of?) before.

also she is somewhat Californian so +1 support

wessside
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
July 10 2011 01:37 GMT
#6
'Reducing girls to "Wow she is smoking hot" is as bad as calling them ugly bitches.'

Being judged purely upon your physical appearance as a girl isn't exactly fun. However, (speaking from an experience here on TL and irl) getting told you're part of the ugly bitch squad is definitely worse than being told you're smoking hot. Guys who'd dismiss a girl (as a friend) purely because she isn't 'smoking hot' aren't worth knowing anyway ^_^.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
Mulu731
Profile Joined July 2010
United States99 Posts
July 10 2011 01:39 GMT
#7
I like Lindsey. She has said some "dumb" stuff, but it was funny so I don't know why there's so much hate. =/
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
July 10 2011 01:39 GMT
#8
Can I still call Tasteless super hot? Or is that degrading?
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
July 10 2011 01:39 GMT
#9
...
"'Reducing girls to "Wow she is smoking hot" is as bad as calling them ugly bitches.'"

????

What?

I'm pretty sure calling a girl smoking hot is a compliment??
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
July 10 2011 01:39 GMT
#10
On July 10 2011 10:26 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
..

This is no white-knighting....


Yes it is.
Sup
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 10 2011 01:39 GMT
#11
I'd rather Starcraft stays just how it is instead of becoming MNF.
reactions, from making fun of her to reasonnable criticism to the usual disgusting sexism.

People will be disgusting ban bait. Then they will magically go away. It sucks but that's the internet. I won't address whatever sexism was going on. But I will say there's a hell of a lot more reasonable criticism and/or mocking than straight up sexism.

She's someone who obviously doesn't know a lot about Starcraft or "the community" ( hate that word), but she's enthusiastic about what she does and she tries her best.


We kinda are a community but I hate the term econ cheese so to each their own. But I see no defense for someone that doesn't know "a lot" (A generous way of putting it) about what they're talking about representing an organization.

She did interviews that were only memorable because of how tragic they were. She didn't know wtf she was talking about. It wasn't very good content.

My thoughts are they prominently featured women for sex appeal, not intelligence or intriguing interviewer skills. So mocking them seems fair game to me. However I've been trying (unsuccessfully) to keep my fingers quiet as I don't think its pertinent to bash someone after stating my opinion.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
AlissyXOXO
Profile Joined June 2010
United States49 Posts
July 10 2011 01:46 GMT
#12
I kinda think it was on NASL hiring someone who had no idea what they were talking about, and purely based on looks. Another mistake to put into their growing list of failures, but again the blame should be placed on NASL not Lindsey.

If you're a model and you get offered a chance to be on stream in front of tens of thousands of viewers, you take it for the publicity it might generate for you. She was hired, and NASL knew she had no previous experience with the game or the gaming scene. She at least tried her best.

Her interviews may have been terrible, but really you should be pinning the blame on the right people.
Alissy from IRC ^_^
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 10 2011 01:48 GMT
#13
While i agree that sexist remarks aren't good, if she's getting a lot of hate for her work then she is doing a terrible job. If we want the community to grow then why should we put up with sub par standards just because somebody is trying something new?
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
AlissyXOXO
Profile Joined June 2010
United States49 Posts
July 10 2011 01:53 GMT
#14
But again, how on earth is that Lindsey's fault? Someone offers you a decent amount of money to do interviews at some event, would you turn it down just because you don't know much about it?
Alissy from IRC ^_^
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
July 10 2011 01:55 GMT
#15
Are you one of those people who think holding a door open for a girl is sexist because she can get the door herself? lol I agree with every other point you made though. The interviews are quite awkward at times but its NASL's fault for that.
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Tweleve
Profile Joined March 2011
United States644 Posts
July 10 2011 01:56 GMT
#16
even esports hurts esports
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Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
July 10 2011 01:57 GMT
#17
On July 10 2011 10:53 AlissyXOXO wrote:
But again, how on earth is that Lindsey's fault? Someone offers you a decent amount of money to do interviews at some event, would you turn it down just because you don't know much about it?


Yes.

If you take a job you aren't qualified for than you better prepare to be yelled at.
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
storm44
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1293 Posts
July 10 2011 02:00 GMT
#18
On July 10 2011 10:48 Scaramanga wrote:
While i agree that sexist remarks aren't good, if she's getting a lot of hate for her work then she is doing a terrible job. If we want the community to grow then why should we put up with sub par standards just because somebody is trying something new?


But shes is soo hottt
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 10 2011 02:01 GMT
#19
apparently she's trying to learn

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/il5gt/wow_shes_serious_about_this/
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
July 10 2011 02:01 GMT
#20
On July 10 2011 10:37 NeverGG wrote:
'Reducing girls to "Wow she is smoking hot" is as bad as calling them ugly bitches.'

Being judged purely upon your physical appearance as a girl isn't exactly fun. However, (speaking from an experience here on TL and irl) getting told you're part of the ugly bitch squad is definitely worse than being told you're smoking hot. Guys who'd dismiss a girl (as a friend) purely because she isn't 'smoking hot' aren't worth knowing anyway ^_^.

Who would want a 'smoking hot' girl as a friend? That would be awful, just awful.
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
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