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eu.exodus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa1186 Posts
July 06 2011 11:24 GMT
#21
On July 06 2011 15:53 Kenpachi wrote:
im never against cheese. its always 10 standard banelings that run me over or blink stalkers (or i feel like trolling TvT)

Terran is a bitch


lol same here.

op : if you lose you cheesy shit like youve mentioned, you probably dont belong in masters.
6 poll is a good skill toi have
TheGiz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada708 Posts
July 06 2011 12:58 GMT
#22
When I was in Gold the predictability of Terran builds was insanely laughable. I used to joke that no Terran was capable of winning the game after 8 min because all anyone ever did was 3rax and attack at just that time.

If you couldn't hold it off you lost, but I got good at fighting at my ramp and playing towards a macro game. Gave me a lot of wins against Terran afterwards.

Now in Plat the strength of cheap-ish builds is even greater. People's 7RRs come right on time and I don't have my 4gate up, or Terrans 2rax for the auto-win. You just have to either cheese back or learn to scout and deal with these strategies. I did neither - I switched over to team games. There the skill level is drastically worse but the games are highly varied.
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13426 Posts
July 06 2011 13:06 GMT
#23
On July 06 2011 20:24 eu.exodus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 15:53 Kenpachi wrote:
im never against cheese. its always 10 standard banelings that run me over or blink stalkers (or i feel like trolling TvT)

Terran is a bitch


lol same here.

op : if you lose you cheesy shit like youve mentioned, you probably dont belong in masters.


I agree you need to be able to hold cheese. Cheese is what gets me more often than not. If I can take it to the late game I often win. Early and mid game I need to work on :/
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Servius_Fulvius
Profile Joined August 2009
United States947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 15:53:03
July 06 2011 15:51 GMT
#24
On July 06 2011 14:40 masterbreti wrote:
This fustrates me so much because I know I can play better. I know I can play at a Master's level. But I cannot show that because my rank is Gold and facing high silver players.


If you can't beat cheese in the gold league then there's no way you can beat cheese in the master's league where it's executed SO much better. I'm in gold league too and have a similar record - winning almost everything that isn't cheese and losing to a lot of cheese the first time I see it. It sucks, but it's part of the game. Cheese is very alluring to the newer player because it isn't hard to learn (especially compared to long game strategies) and gets you a lot of wins. If you keep losing to cheese over and over then you're either not playing a lot of games or you're not correctly learning how to deal with it. If you're consistently losing to "bad" players is there any other conclusion than being bad yourself? Embracing this is your first step to improvement!


Now rage is getting the better of me. I am starting to slam things and break items. I am just letting everything get so fustrated.


When a game makes you break something then it's not fun anymore and you need to stop.

Dittert
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States97 Posts
July 06 2011 18:22 GMT
#25
It's funny that you think you won't have to deal with cheese in the Masters League. Didn't Moon 6 pool Huk in GAME 5 OF DREAMHACK? If there's cheese at that level, there will be cheese everywhere.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
July 06 2011 20:21 GMT
#26
You got out of bronze that's already pretty good good luck getting out of gold
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Sotamursu
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland612 Posts
July 06 2011 22:42 GMT
#27
Honestly I'd rather lose to cheese than 40 minute TvZ to mass corruptor, blord infestor when Z has 1 mining base left. The frustration after a game like that is nothing compared to losing to 4gate.
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