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MOAR DRONES (or not...) Zerg day 2 +Tech Help

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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
June 17 2011 06:44 GMT
#1
Soooo, today is day 2 of super srs zerg.

I went to change my portrait, but my router disconnects from the web every time I try to load the change portrait window, or look at anyone's profile. I'm not sure if it is my router, or battle.net

I am stuck on reaper, even though I want to go to roach ( Well, as I was writing this I was spamming change portrait, and eventually it worked.

Wait, should I stick with ghost even though I'm playing zerg? Oh the decisions...

Anybody know the cause? Although I just got it to work after 8 tries, this is somewhat ridiculous.


ALSO HOLY COW I AM SOOO HAPPY MOLETRAP AND DIGGITY DUAL COMMENTATING NASL THIS IS MY DREAM OH YEAH EVER SINCE SC2 CAME OUT I WANTED THIS TO HAPPEN AND IT HAPPENED THANK YOU NASL YOU MADE MY WEEK

Meh, sort of :D

So today I started bright and early with a couple ladder games. Feeling invigorated, I proceed to get absolutely roflstomped in 3 straight zvzs. Feeling not invigorated I do some summer assignments.

Returning, I get four gated, after forgetting I had cued a game and coming in 45 seconds late.

Oops.

At this point I finally get a zvt. I die to hellions. I'm so dumb to stack all my drones when transferring them.

I get another zvt. Thank god I said, finally a matchup I understand (although am not comfortable with)

So I get on three base. Drone like mad. Pump lings like mad... He's still on two base.

I get worried, tech to greater spire. I'm skipping infestors, because it looks like he's trying to mass ravens or something. I"m not sure. All I know is I want to get to broods. And then it turns out he's been hiding marines on two base, pushes out against the map. I'm maxed on roach ling muta baneling. I absolutely crush it, and deny his third. I have 2-2 upgrades, and note he only has 1-0. Of pure marine thor o.o

So alright, I say. I've got this in a bag. Creep at all expansions, 75 drones on four bases with a huge bank. And then I get my spire sniped. Oops. And then like a 6*8 marine drop comes into my main. I Clean up but lose my baneling nest, spire, roach warren, and lair. I counterpush, and yet again deny his third. He kills my fourth. I take the gold. I'm down to like 40 drones at ths point. I have a huge bank but think I"mscrewed. He sweeps in with more marines. I barely hold it off with 1-2 roaches and transfuse. I hold off marines with roach ling baneling, and I realize I"m at like 180 food, and I don't have an army...

Wait. I left my army at his third. I have like another 15 roaches, 30 lings, and 15 banelings sitting there. I deny the gold, again. He taps out with the nogg.

he then asks why he didn't win.

Lol.

I then got on Cambam's stream. Although the stream quality isn't great, he's a great guy, and it's a pretty reasonable level of play. He kindly explains 15 hatch 15 pool zvz. I win a game, I lose because i misread roach infestor as muta, because he got so many spines

I get ling all ined like 3 times, and am like poo. This sucks. I hate zvz. Then some guy tries to 7 pool me and I defend, which made me feel good.

Then I get a protoss who expos behind like 3 sentries and a cannon. I pick off all the sentries, and half his probes. I expand, drone to like 50, and then kill him.

Then a ZvP on Xel'Naga caverns. The guy goes into sharkmode with his three gate expand stuff, and I foolishly overreact. However, I'm able to trade some lings for sentries. After realizing I"ve been juked out I take a third. Then I scout with an overlord he's trying to take a third. At this point I have four bases. I think I have a ton of drones. I think I'm saturated. I think I'm macroing like shit (only true part) I get drop and ovie speed.

I do a 32 ling drop in his base just as he pushes (lucky lucky lucky me) My 2-2 lings rip through his entire infrastructure. But shit, he has 5 colossi, and I haven't even thought about making a spire. I manage to sneak up and flank his army before he gets up ff, but he retreats behind some mroe. He's low on FF, and only stalkers and some colossi remain. I get overzealous and get owned. I think I"m on like 70 drones. I'm on 45. Nonetheless, I pump our 22 roaches, again get overzealous and fail. At this point I know I"m still in it: I am on three bases, and he is on two because I cleared out his entire main o.o

With one less round I get out another bunch of roaches, and flank with lings. Finally some good decision making. I pick off another two colossi. I put out a round of drones. Finally at 56 (I think I"m at as many as I should have) I pump out roach corrupter. I just flank his army from three sides, take down the colossi, attack and win.

I play my second to last game of the night against a protoss who was quite overzealous. He went nexus first on lost temple against speedling expan d. I just put like 20 lings at him, kill both cannons, clean up the probes, and win.

Then he offers to rematch me. This time, yet again, I think I"ve droned really high. He goes for dts, and I luckily say "hey, I ought to have detection"blindly before it came. THe overseer finished right when the dts got to my natural :D

On 3 bases (one of them being a gold) I again think I have 70 drones. I have 50. I just pump 1-1 roaches and win after clearing out his third, and again getting a good flank.

Summary. I suck at drones. Even though I gained some spots in my division, I just don't know how to count drones. I probably ought to start highlighting drones to actually know how many I have, and take some more risks while droning. ALso, I think I ought to start getting my lair out sooner. I keep on forgetting ,and getting it at like 9 minutes or 8 minutes, with like 300 gas from one drone in the bank.

DRONE MOAR and I will be MOAR successful :D


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shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
June 17 2011 06:49 GMT
#2
Sup Froadac, always a pleasure reading your adventures in Zergtown.

Probably one of the most useful pieces of advice I've gotten was "As Zerg, you don't think when do I build drones, but when do I stop building drones." Get greedy, lose a lot of games, and readjust from there. It's frustrating, but you learn to scout better and learn timings a lot more quickly and overall become a better player!

DRONE BABY DRONE
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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
June 17 2011 06:58 GMT
#3
If you remove the feeling of "Do I have too many drones?", you'll be better at zerg. From time to time, box in the drones at minerals and if it's twice the number of mineral patches, you're good. If less, you have to add, if all your existing bases have more than enough with all gas taken, you need to expand.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
June 17 2011 07:19 GMT
#4
Drones? Did you watch Morrow play? Drones DRONES DRONES DRONES. 100 drones? NO PROBLEM.

Too many drones can never hurt.
Jaedong plz
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
June 17 2011 07:19 GMT
#5
Just follow morrow's example! 101 drones awww yeah.

jk don't do that. What they said, I suppose :>
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Draekan
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada220 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 07:23:05
June 17 2011 07:22 GMT
#6
haha good read froadac :D

SO this is what you were telling me about on bnet right after the game, rofl :D


entertaining read though, thanks
Yung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States727 Posts
June 17 2011 07:51 GMT
#7
Dude dont feel bad about loseing a bunch, i lost 7 games in a row and almost shot myself today.
Flaunt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
New Zealand784 Posts
June 17 2011 08:00 GMT
#8
"it's better to lose by being too greedy." this is probably the best advice I got given to me when I switched to Z.
What? You seek something? You wish to multiply yourself tenfold, a hundredfold? You seek followers? Seek zeros!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 17 2011 08:11 GMT
#9
Accidentally made 131 drones in a game once. Kept wondering why my maxed out army was so small lol. The good thing was that I remaxed almost instantly.
AnxiousHippo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia1451 Posts
June 17 2011 08:57 GMT
#10
Put all your drones into a control group?
Just as everybody above has said, Too many drones > Not enough drones
An apple a day keeps the Protoss away | TLHF
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
June 17 2011 15:04 GMT
#11
Yup. I haven't been punished for it yet though, because I"m getting those 50 drones really fast, and I"m still in Diamond. And people are being super greedy, assuming I won't attack.

Still, moar drones required.
RHMVNovus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 17 2011 15:58 GMT
#12
On June 17 2011 16:19 Z3kk wrote:
Just follow morrow's example! 101 drones awww yeah.

jk don't do that. What they said, I suppose :>


Spine crawlers and grackro hatchery-uuuus never hurt :>
Droning his sorrows in massive amounts of macro
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 16:59:41
June 17 2011 16:06 GMT
#13
Alright, starting to ladder. I could stream, but the quality is really shitty with 350kbps upload.

I lost my first game to a cancelled nexus...

Got up to 55 drones, and then jsut died. Still, tons of drones really quick :D

Just beat a guy. We both 15 hatch 15 pooled. He sends like 8 lings into my base, I lose some drones. But I havea drone in his base, see he makes a shitton of drones, and I've overmade lings, and just kill him >.>

Baneling all ined.

Beat roach one base First time I did that :D

Got bunker rushed close positions metal. Lost. Was told it was a guy laddering a friends account.

Scouted a quick marine drop out of a terran. I killed the dropship and all the marines, and then was like. Shit. I have a lot of leftover lings. So I went to deny the expo (while pumping like 12 drones) and the guy retreated up his ramp, left his depot down, so I just went killed like all his scvs, and he ragequit.
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