• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:59
CET 01:59
KST 09:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced14[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced Information Request Regarding Chinese Ladder SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest RSL Revival: Season 3 Tenacious Turtle Tussle [Alpha Pro Series] Nice vs Cure
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation
Brood War
General
FlaSh's Valkyrie Copium BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Which season is the best in ASL?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Earnings: Bigger Pri…
TrAiDoS
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1173 users

Expecting people to be smart = worst idea ever

Blogs > unichan
Post a Reply
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 16:26:32
June 09 2011 22:28 GMT
#1
zz

*
:)
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
June 09 2011 22:42 GMT
#2
Don't give them your work! They don't deserve it and you don't owe them! Just tell them no! If they're really a friend they won't push it. If they're not your friend well then who cares.
Oh no
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
June 09 2011 22:48 GMT
#3
I'd send a really really stupid code to those stupid noob shits just to fool them and give them a nice lesson and tell that there were too many errors that were fixed at the last minute and it wasn't possible to e-mail to them after that.

That happened to a lot of guys in circuit lab last term in my school. Most of the guys copied preliminary works from last year's solutions, but there was a change in one of the questions, it asked comparator circuit instead of clipper. Stupid noob shits solved a non-existing clipper circuit question and all failed that class. World is full of idiots.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 22:53:06
June 09 2011 22:51 GMT
#4
You learned a valuable life lesson that I think most of us 'smart' people learn somewhere down the line. It just doesn't pay to give out your work. If they really need to cheat, at least charge them some money and redo the assignment for them.

Someday, these same people who asked you to copy your homework will be asking you for bigger and grander things. If you're a car salesman, they'll ask for a hookup on the car. If you're a lawyer, they'll ask for some pro bono. And if you're rich, they'll ask for a loan. Second life lesson: Never do business with 'friends'.
Be versatile, know when to retreat, and carry a big gun.
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
June 09 2011 22:59 GMT
#5
Wow, that really sucks...

Lesson learned, I suppose, and you did catch a small break there (silver lining ><), so yeah...I feel your pain, though something like that has not happened to me exactly.
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 09 2011 23:08 GMT
#6
Big shame, if that guy asks you again, report him immediately.

I wish they allowed group assignments. I enjoy working alone, but with group assignments, I can pair up with people who don't care and don't get in my way. With individual work I often find myself in a similar predicament as you (though this is a social science discipline, so the level of comprehensions appear to be at an all-time low here at my uni.)

Sorry to hear about your predicament.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 09 2011 23:09 GMT
#7
--- Nuked ---
fatum
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Spain83 Posts
June 09 2011 23:10 GMT
#8
Dont expect people to be smart.
Be smart yourself, smart people will find you.
Aim to climb as high as you can dream.
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
June 09 2011 23:14 GMT
#9
If your friends can't do programming projects on their own, drop them.

Or at least tell them to use google, since that's the end-all-be-all of solving programming problems.
www.infinityseven.net
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
June 09 2011 23:35 GMT
#10
i don't even send out my code to people i actually trust <.< i did it one time, and the idiot sent it in unmodified, so the tools that were used to check for similarities got us visits with the tutors x) anyhow, i could explain my program so it's fine for me, but since then, i never gave anybody my solution that i wasn't in a team with.

if they need your solution, it doesn't matter how much you believe them to be capable to do this on their own or at least modify it, they won't because either you believed wrong or it doesn't matter because they are lazy as shit or just too busy, they'll send it in unmodified, almost no exceptions. :/
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
June 09 2011 23:46 GMT
#11
Well your friends are stupid, and so are you.
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
June 10 2011 00:53 GMT
#12
I have similar requests for my C++ programming class. Thankfully most of my friends that ask for help, I can usually spot their error and don't have to go through the trouble. If a person is merely asking for my code and I know they just want to copy it, I just tell them to ask their TA. I only give out code to people I trust are smart enough to know to use it as a reference and not as a cheat sheet.
I like money. You like money too? We should hang out.
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 01:03:24
June 10 2011 00:58 GMT
#13
Well, looks like you learned your lesson. Don't be a doormat and let stupid/lazy people profit for free from your hard work. I hope that you can now confidently tell these people to piss off if they ever ask to copy off of you again. So, yeah, you were not smart in that situation, either.

On June 10 2011 07:28 unichan wrote:
I'm one of the "smart" people who doesn't exclusively hang out with the "smart" people and thus I am less intimidating to approach


And your story illustrates quite perfectly why I've never bothered to hang out with anyone but the "smart" people since high school...
AzTec
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada178 Posts
June 10 2011 00:58 GMT
#14
you have a lot of audacity to call other people stupid while you lend out your homework all willy nilly
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
June 10 2011 01:00 GMT
#15
Can't agree more OP. Don't get me wrong, I've copied and let others copy me, but most of the time that was on a math problem or something where it being the same as someone elses' would be completely normal. Though, out of the handful of times I ever let someone copy writing assignments I was burned enough to stop doing it at all. You'd think it be easy to change stuff up enough that it's not obvious, or at least not provable, but some people are just too lazy, stupid, or both.
Moderator
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
June 10 2011 01:06 GMT
#16
You're not an idiot for send them a program without insuring that they fix it. You're an idiot for sending them a program. If you're in a university you're fortunate to not have been expelled and have a black mark on your transcript for the rest of your life. You help noone by facilitating others to cheat.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
blankspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States292 Posts
June 10 2011 01:18 GMT
#17

Next time don't send the programs. You don't have to be ashamed of not helping someone cheat.
Hello friends
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 1m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft477
elazer 226
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4017
Artosis 814
Bale 8
Dota 2
syndereN805
Other Games
summit1g18227
Grubby3912
Mew2King134
Maynarde113
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2219
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH108
• Hupsaiya 62
• davetesta41
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• mYiSmile122
• Pr0nogo 8
• RayReign 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22300
• Ler62
League of Legends
• Doublelift5385
Other Games
• Scarra1266
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
8h 1m
Wardi Open
11h 1m
Monday Night Weeklies
16h 1m
StarCraft2.fi
16h 1m
Replay Cast
23h 1m
Wardi Open
1d 11h
StarCraft2.fi
1d 16h
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
StarCraft2.fi
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
SC Evo League
5 days
BSL 21
5 days
Sziky vs OyAji
Gypsy vs eOnzErG
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
BSL 21
6 days
Bonyth vs StRyKeR
Tarson vs Dandy
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-28
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
Light HT
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
Kuram Kup
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.