• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:28
CET 08:28
KST 16:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced! What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Mechabellum Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
12 Days of Starcraft US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How Does UI/UX Design Influence User Trust?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1908 users

Quick Go Question

Blogs > EsX_Raptor
Post a Reply
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 17:18:48
May 19 2011 17:17 GMT
#1
I'm a chess player who's trying to get into Go for recreational purposes in college.

I've already read and understood most of the Go rules, however, there's something I haven't yet been able to understand simply because it's just never elaborated on (from what I can tell).

[image loading]

White to move. Suppose you decide to take the black stone cluster on the right side of the board as follows (though it's not necessary):

[image loading]

What should you do if your opponent, for some reason, decides to play in that dead area again, like this:

[image loading]

I know that if he keeps on playing in there, I will be able to recapture him again. Therefore, it's basically a wasted move. However, how should white respond to something like that? Should he pass or play somewhere else?

P.S. I make all my art. =P

*
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
May 19 2011 17:30 GMT
#2
Play somewhere else if you have a useful move, pass otherwise. Capture when you need to (e.g he puts one of your stones into atari, or threatens to create a live group). Under Japanese rules his stone is declared dead at the end of the game, so you get one point for the prisoner and still get one point for the territory. So he wasted his move and lost one point too.

Chinese scoring works slightly differently and is apparently simpler but I haven't used it enough to give an explanation.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Michaelj
Profile Joined February 2008
United States186 Posts
May 19 2011 17:35 GMT
#3
as long as your structure has two eyes, it's safe. So you just need to ensure that you can make sure that you can construct 2 eyes in your group, and then ignore play within that group.

http://www.pandanet.co.jp/English/learning_go/learning_go_7.html

I think you can pretty much disregard the latest move by black and make other moves
---
happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 17:50:52
May 19 2011 17:47 GMT
#4
if it's a 9x9 board, i wouldn't even bother playing out to capture the right group, it's strictly better to play F2, because then all your stones are connected and would be very easy to make 2 eyes, whereas black has no way to make two eyes with his group on the right, no matter what. In your scenario with the third diagram, yes ignore it, and still I think F2 is the most valuable move for your, though other valuable moves include F9.

btw what server do you play on? there's a teamliquid chatroom on the KGS
palanq
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States761 Posts
May 19 2011 18:37 GMT
#5
yeah, black shouldn't play there, since he has no hope of capturing your groups. F2 is a big move for both players; black can isolate white's C2 group if he plays there. after that there are a number of moves on the board which are all kind of similar in point value
time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
01:00
StarCraft Evolution League #17
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft693
Nina 199
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 25487
Rain 5362
Shuttle 357
Larva 293
Leta 210
scan(afreeca) 59
NotJumperer 15
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm171
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 643
C9.Mang0480
Counter-Strike
summit1g9238
minikerr358
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor118
Other Games
KawaiiRice3
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick814
BasetradeTV53
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 48
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2654
League of Legends
• Rush1599
• Lourlo1208
• HappyZerGling113
Upcoming Events
BSL 21
12h 32m
Sziky vs eOnzErG
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 2h
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
OSC
1d 10h
BSL 21
1d 12h
Cross vs Dewalt
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
OSC
3 days
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
6 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1 - W1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1 - W2
Escore Tournament S1 - W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.