• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:26
CET 10:26
KST 18:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13
StarCraft 2
General
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4) BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win SC2 Proleague Discontinued; SKT, KT, SGK, CJ disband
Tourneys
RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation
Brood War
General
Foreign Brood War BW General Discussion MBCGame Torrents [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions Which season is the best in ASL?
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace Megathread The Perfect Game
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
Physical Exertion During Gam…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1850 users

SC2: 4 weeks so far; I have to learn A LOT!

Blogs > ionize
Post a Reply
ionize
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Ireland399 Posts
May 04 2011 18:28 GMT
#1
Hey everyone, it's ionize!

When I looked into my calender I realized that I'm playing SC2 for three and a half weeks again. I don't have the time to mass games as I did around August/September 2010, but I play as much as I can.

The biggest change for me so far is, that I've started playing 1v1, instead of sticking with 3v3 RT. After my placement match (single one) I was put into Silver and started playing more and more games. I try to play as much as I can until I run out of steam (which is around five games in a row, most of the time). So far I did 40 games in the last two weeks, with a record of 17:23.

What made me go for 1v1?
I played 3v3 RT most of the time in season 1. I was in Diamond league at around 900+ and felt pretty confident with my play. But after returning from my 25 week long break I felt a big slump... All my confidence had gone and I realized I was looking at my team mates for mistakes (which screwed the games) instead of looking at my own play. So I took a step back and decided to play more 1v1. I did my placement match and SHAZAM(!!) was in Silver. That showed me my place and I'm very happy about it.

Why do I like being in Silver league?
Honestly, it shows my flaws in thinking. I'm not good at SC2, just because I can win a 3v3 RT and outmacro the other five players. In a 1v1 it's just me and MY mistakes and MY macro, and my map control etc. Now that I play more and more 1v1 I see the big flaws in my play and especially my macro and decision making. It's hard to lose a lot, but I gladly take it, because from most of my losses I learn something.

What did I learn so far?
Well, I took some notes after some significant/stupid/unexpected losses and after watching TSL3 games or Day[9] Dailies. Here is what I wrote down:
1) If I get cannon rushed, delay him and build a Forge of my own to ward him off.
2) PvT: vs MMM upgrade Armor first (with a quick forge after expanding). That's something I learned from watching the TSL3 Ro32/16.
3) Harass: If you pick out workers in your opponents base, aim for the gas workers. (Got that from a Day[9] Daily)
4) You can get 2:2 in upgrades on two bases, with only Gateway units (actually Adelscott did that against QXC).
5) Push to protect a new expansion.
6) Push Timing: Whenever a critical upgrade finishes, push.
7) Don't be aggressive in PvT if you attack up a ramp, just contain him and reenforce. (That one was a really hard lesson I had to learn )
8) Don't attack without a chance (i.e. a lot of Siege Tanks wait for you. No!!! No!!! No!!) [That one was my dumbest mistake so far, running my whole force into unsieged tanks just to see them siege while his Marauder meatshield defends...

As you can see I have a lot to learn, I mean A LOT. I do so many mistakes that it sometimes really hurts to watch my replays, but it's paying off eventually.

What about 3v3 RT?
When I've done about five 1v1 ladder games I go for one to three 3v3 RT games. I realized that my game in 3v3 has improved a lot. Especially macro and positioning. Also base timing. It's just wow! I mean, I only spent 40 games in 1v1 and it already helps my other game.

A note on my builds.
Well I wrote here that I stole a build using Day[9]'s method. I decided to steal a 2 gate robo into Expand build, which is followed up by two starport phoenix (in the replay). BUT in ladder games against Terran I never use the two starport transition. I was fiddling around with 2 robo immortals or Robobay Colossus. I just can't find my build... Well ok, until today. I decided to really go for macro and learn that properly first, so I will go 2 gate robo Expand into Blink Stalkers and try to outmacro my opponent.

What's up next?
CecilSunkure strongly recommended to have a fixed goal, so I made up my mind. I'm currently a Silver league player, so my goal will be as follows:
I want to be promoted to Gold league AND I want to win 25 games on the way to get the Stalker portrait (sorry, I love getting new portraits ), AND I want to play all the games using a stolen build order (see above), WHICH I learn using day[9]'s method!
That was the goal I took for myself and I will stick to it. I still want to be promoted, but I now know it will take a LOT of time, because I barely win in Silver league and I have so many leaks in my play. But I will keep on playing and trying to improve. Therefore I decided on a new intermediate goal:

I want to reach the top 8 in my league and have a record of 50% W/L or better. Therefore I will refine my two builds (4 gate and 2 gate robo expand) to know them better than now and learn a third build (will be a PvZ build) to extend the variety.

I will close my long ramble here and continue playing. I now know that I have to do three things
1) Play ladder games.
2) Watch replays and learn from my mistakes.
3) Play the AI to further refine my build orders.
[optional] 4) Keep on watching Day[9] Dailies and TSL3 VODs.

Best regards
ionize

*
I just love video games, what's your excuse?
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
May 04 2011 18:42 GMT
#2
Sounds like you have a great attitude, and I'm sure you'll make your goals.

One piece of advice I can give is to think in specifics. It's not enough to say to yourself "oh darn, I lost to X rush" - it's much more valuable to look into the details and say "Hmm, X rush looks like it can't hit any earlier than Y minutes, that's important to know, and hey! he has to make only mineral units in order to make this work, that could be a tell for the build!"

This kind of thinking is worth its weight in gold (pun intended). Some examples that could get your mind rolling might be: "what time does warpgate tech finish with 1/2/3/4 chrono boosts? What time should a 4 gate hit? How many units (precisely) can he have at 6/6:30/7:30 mins? etc".

Best of luck to you sir!
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 34m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 179
ProTech118
Lowko53
mouzHeroMarine 51
StarCraft: Brood War
actioN 1210
GuemChi 1110
Larva 582
Stork 518
Jaedong 407
EffOrt 396
Zeus 306
Leta 302
Killer 272
910 219
[ Show more ]
PianO 171
Rush 165
Mini 164
sorry 140
ZerO 100
Light 93
Dewaltoss 40
NotJumperer 36
soO 34
Sharp 30
JulyZerg 27
Noble 22
Sacsri 11
Hm[arnc] 11
Dota 2
singsing2849
XcaliburYe251
Fuzer 224
NeuroSwarm75
League of Legends
JimRising 488
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0368
hungrybox303
Mew2King60
Other Games
summit1g9984
WinterStarcraft516
mouzStarbuck242
XaKoH 122
ZerO(Twitch)6
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick845
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 13
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH163
• LUISG 15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 19
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos805
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
34m
WardiTV 2025
2h 34m
SC Evo League
3h 4m
IPSL
7h 34m
Dewalt vs ZZZero
BSL 21
10h 34m
Sziky vs OyAji
Gypsy vs eOnzErG
OSC
12h 34m
Solar vs Creator
ByuN vs Gerald
Percival vs Babymarine
Moja vs Krystianer
EnDerr vs ForJumy
sebesdes vs Nicoract
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d
WardiTV 2025
1d 2h
OSC
1d 5h
IPSL
1d 7h
Bonyth vs KameZerg
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
1d 10h
Bonyth vs StRyKeR
Tarson vs Dandy
Replay Cast
1d 23h
Wardi Open
2 days
StarCraft2.fi
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV 2025
3 days
StarCraft2.fi
3 days
PiGosaur Monday
3 days
StarCraft2.fi
4 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV 2025
5 days
StarCraft2.fi
5 days
WardiTV 2025
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-30
RSL Revival: Season 3
Light HT

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
Acropolis #4 - TS3
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.