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Fraidnot
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States824 Posts
May 04 2011 12:35 GMT
#1
Poker and Starcraft may seem like strange companions as space battles and card games rarely intersect outside of children’s trading card games, but when you look beyond the chips and banelings that take up center stage you find that the two are united by strategy. Poker is not just a game of luck as Starcraft is not about who has the fastest hands, any pro can vouch for that. It’s the mind games, the deception, preparation and execution that lead to victory and because of this great Poker and Starcraft players all share a similar attribute. No, it is not a pathological gambling addiction; it is a love for strategy and competition that drives them to want to win. That is why it should come to no one as a surprise to see a player like Bertrand “Elky” Grospellier, a legend of Broodwars, make over six million dollars from Poker tournaments when he switched to the game of "chance".

Maybe it is no surprise that top players of one sport are similar to top players of another, but what may come as a shock is just how akin some of these players actually are. Take a look at these T★SL 3 players and their Poker Counterparts.

Boxer - Doyle Brunson
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He’s a legend in the game one of the best of all time; no other player has had a greater influence on the scene. Everyone’s read his book, they've studied his game. He was there when the scene got started and he’s still here today. So who is this? Doyle or Boxer? Take your pick, it’s true for both of them.

MC - Phil Ivy
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Phil Ivy is the winningest player in Poker, so good he is scary. Ivy makes good players look like amateurs when he sits down at the table. No other player gets the same level of respect and for good reason as he is regarded by many to be the best player in the world. The only difference between the two is that MC is slightly cockier.

ThorZain - Chris Ferguson
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Calculating and dangerous if you’re looking for a player who’s done his research look no further. Both are known for being good mannered players. ThorZain does not even hesitate to throw out a gg wp when he drops a game, and while he may not have the hair that Chris “Jesus” Ferguson has, he sure knows a thing or two about performing miracles.

Idra -Phil Hellmuth
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If you put a glass panel between the two you would swear it was a mirror. Hellmuth is arrogant, talks trash, and quickly gets on tilt, especially when he starts losing to player who he believes have less skill than himself. Does that sound like anyone you know yet? You either love or hate him there is no in between but either way he is one of the best of the best and when he wins looks like an absolute genius, you might even call him an Evil Genius.

TLO -Tom Dwan
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When TLO sits down to play you don’t know what to expect from the most creative player of the game and the same goes for Tom Dwan. He’ll play hands that no one else will, is always explosively unpredictable, reads you like a book, and is an absolute fan favorite in every tournament he enters thanks to the off the wall style that he brings.

Huk - Phil Laak
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Everyone who wears a hoody gets nicknamed the Unabomber, and these guys are no exception as both are known for hiding behind a hoody when they gets into steep competition. They're also both known for being wild even crazy individuals. This might lead you believe that they plays a loose game while in fact they're incredibly tight player who only on occasion brings out the proverbial mothership rush of a play.

QXC - Antonio Esfandiari
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Confident and aggressive, Antonio Esfandiari’s play is comparable to endless reaper harass, he just never slows down. Before making it big in Poker Esfandiari actually performed as a magician, and if there’s anyone who knows a thing or two about magic it’s QXC with his astounding ability to make medivacs magically appear in his enemy’s bases.


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YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
May 04 2011 12:47 GMT
#2
You forgot
Elky - Elky
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안지호
Magulina
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden152 Posts
May 04 2011 12:48 GMT
#3
Heh these are pretty good, but oh god what an insult to Idra :D. And calling Phil Hellmuth "one of the best of the best" is probably pushing it a little bit
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
May 04 2011 12:50 GMT
#4
Hah, couldn't agree more with the Idra/Hellmuth comparison. Thorzain and Ferguson is a little less obvious, but now that I look at it, it does make sense.

The other poker players I am not too familiar with, but I'm sure with enough research I could too see the comparisons you are making.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 13:01:23
May 04 2011 12:52 GMT
#5
Surely Tasteless is Patrick Antonius.
Because you would go gay for both ?


Also, you sure this isn't IdrA ?

e. nah, not BM enough

Also Mondy is like Isildur.
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Fraidnot
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States824 Posts
May 04 2011 12:56 GMT
#6
On May 04 2011 21:48 Magulina wrote:
Heh these are pretty good, but oh god what an insult to Idra :D. And calling Phil Hellmuth "one of the best of the best" is probably pushing it a little bit

Idra is a big boy I'm sure he can handle being compared to the poker brat and If you know of anyone with more WSOP bracelets let me know.
Magulina
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden152 Posts
May 04 2011 13:17 GMT
#7
On May 04 2011 21:56 Fraidnot wrote:
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On May 04 2011 21:48 Magulina wrote:
Heh these are pretty good, but oh god what an insult to Idra :D. And calling Phil Hellmuth "one of the best of the best" is probably pushing it a little bit

Idra is a big boy I'm sure he can handle being compared to the poker brat and If you know of anyone with more WSOP bracelets let me know.


Uuuh, WSOP bracelets isn't an indicator of skill, and he won most of them when the fields were smaller and many years ago. Sure he might've been good back then, but now a ton of people have passed him skillwise. I would claim that any regular at nl1k+ online is better than him right now.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
May 04 2011 13:20 GMT
#8
On May 04 2011 22:17 Magulina wrote:
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On May 04 2011 21:56 Fraidnot wrote:
On May 04 2011 21:48 Magulina wrote:
Heh these are pretty good, but oh god what an insult to Idra :D. And calling Phil Hellmuth "one of the best of the best" is probably pushing it a little bit

Idra is a big boy I'm sure he can handle being compared to the poker brat and If you know of anyone with more WSOP bracelets let me know.


Uuuh, WSOP bracelets isn't an indicator of skill, and he won most of them when the fields were smaller and many years ago. Sure he might've been good back then, but now a ton of people have passed him skillwise. I would claim that any regular at nl1k+ online is better than him right now.


You could possibly say this about IdrA as well. Depends on what tournament results you look at i guess.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
May 04 2011 14:01 GMT
#9
the difference is that boxer has never been a huge douche as Doyle was when the us got banned from online last month

and that while idra and hellmuth are both BM, hellmuth isn't funny while doing so or good at poker

other than that it's ok
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
May 04 2011 14:30 GMT
#10
Idra isn't funny or doing especially well either. I think the comparisons are pretty apt!

haha the Elky - Elky inclusion is great!

I think this graph says it all though, tobad we don't have professional monopoly players for comparison :D


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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
May 04 2011 14:36 GMT
#11
But there is no luck in poker & only very little in starcraft.

I don't even know what farmville is, I guess it's something stupid.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
May 04 2011 14:37 GMT
#12
On May 04 2011 21:47 DTK-m2 wrote:
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You forgot
Elky - Elky
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my thoughts exactly, lol :D
@nowSimon
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
May 04 2011 15:02 GMT
#13
On May 04 2011 23:30 Armathai wrote:
Idra isn't funny or doing especially well either. I think the comparisons are pretty apt!

haha the Elky - Elky inclusion is great!

I think this graph says it all though, tobad we don't have professional monopoly players for comparison :D


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You use strategy in poker also =/
Jaedong :3
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
May 04 2011 15:07 GMT
#14
KiWiKaKi = KiWiKaKi?
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 15:12:18
May 04 2011 15:09 GMT
#15
On May 04 2011 21:48 Magulina wrote:
calling Phil Hellmuth "one of the best of the best" is probably pushing it a little bit
Same goes for IdrA.
On May 04 2011 23:36 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
But there is no luck in poker
That's, um, a rather flabbergasting thing to say.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Daikas
Profile Joined December 2010
United States118 Posts
May 04 2011 15:45 GMT
#16
KiWiKaKi - Jonathan Garneau
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Is that a sword? Luxury! Is that a horse? Sloth! Is that a helmet? Vanity!
Starfox
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria699 Posts
May 04 2011 16:36 GMT
#17
Starcraft2 clearly lacks a Jennifer Tilly. ;F
Greek Mythology 2.0: Imagine Sisyphos as a man who wants to watch all videos on youtube... and Tityos as one who HAS to watch all of them.
Fraidnot
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States824 Posts
May 04 2011 19:53 GMT
#18
On May 05 2011 00:07 MechKing wrote:
KiWiKaKi = KiWiKaKi?

He plays Poker?
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
May 04 2011 20:10 GMT
#19
On May 05 2011 04:53 Fraidnot wrote:
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On May 05 2011 00:07 MechKing wrote:
KiWiKaKi = KiWiKaKi?

He plays Poker?


He made quite a bit of money off of it ($250K+)
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
May 07 2011 23:45 GMT
#20
Watching Elky tear some nerd ass on the PCA on tv right now xD
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