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TOP 10 NES and SNES games, objectively

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xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 19:11:57
April 30 2011 11:28 GMT
#1
Or well, as objectively as you can get. The ratings are gamespot user ratings, with all games having more than 100 votes to be statistically significant.

NES

8.7 Final Fantasy for NES
8.7 Dragon Warrior III for NES
8.7 Final Fantasy III for NES
8.9 Dragon Warrior IV for NES
8.9 Contra for NES
9.0 River City Ransom for NES
9.1 Super Mario Bros. / Duck Hunt for NES
9.1 The Legend of Zelda User for NES
9.2 Tecmo Super Bowl for NES
9.2 Super Mario Bros. for NES
9.4 Super Mario Bros. 3 for NES

SNES

9.7 Chrono Trigger for SNES
9.5 Final Fantasy III for SNES
9.5 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past for SNES
9.5 Super Metroid for SNES
9.5 Super Mario World for SNES
9.4 Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars for SNES
9.3 EarthBound for SNES
9.3 Secret of Mana for SNES
9.3 Super Mario All-Stars for SNES
9.3 Tales of Phantasia for SNES

Honorable mentions
9.2 Seiken Densetsu 3 for SNES
9.2 Terranigma for SNES
9.1 Final Fantasy II for SNES
9.1 Kirby Super Star for SNES
9.1 Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest for SNES
9.1 Donkey Kong Country for SNES
9.1 Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island for SNES


Interistingly, the ratings seem to coincide with what the most common criticisms of AirbladeOrange's rankings were.

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Aah thats the stuff..
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
April 30 2011 11:36 GMT
#2
ohh where is mario kart?!
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 11:44:02
April 30 2011 11:43 GMT
#3
Really disagree with FF at #1, although it was good.
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
April 30 2011 11:44 GMT
#4
Uhm the NES ratings are actually upside down.. the number in front of the game is the user rating so SMB 3 is the best NES game.
Aah thats the stuff..
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 30 2011 11:46 GMT
#5
Chrono Trigger is right where it deserves to be. I love that game
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
April 30 2011 12:30 GMT
#6
User ratings are bad. This shouldn't be the way to make an objective ( lol ) top 10.
The best top 10 will always be made by an expert. Also a top 10 with different genres will never be accurate.

Look at the games seriously. Some great choices but they are all rpg or platform.
No SFII in a SNES top 10 ? Are you kidding me ? LOL
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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
April 30 2011 12:42 GMT
#7
You forgot great games like BoF 1/2 and DK3
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xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 12:45:12
April 30 2011 12:42 GMT
#8
On April 30 2011 21:30 Boblion wrote:
User ratings are bad. This shouldn't be the way to make an objective ( lol ) top 10.
The best top 10 will always be made by an expert. Also a top 10 with different genres will never be accurate.

Look at the games seriously. Some great choices but they are all rpg or platform.
No SFII in a SNES top 10 ? Are you kidding me ? LOL

One opinion reflects the opinion of one person. An array of opinions describes the opinion of the entire population of consumers, assuming test sample is evenly distributed(or some other distribution that is determined and adjust ratings accordingly) among it.

And those games arent that great, they are good games but not the top of the crop, the culmination of a platform as judged by its users - BF 1 is 8.4, BF 2 8.6, SF 2 8.6, DK3 8.7, Mario Kart admittedly 9.0 so is close to the cut off point of the list.
Aah thats the stuff..
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
April 30 2011 12:45 GMT
#9
On April 30 2011 21:42 xarthaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 21:30 Boblion wrote:
User ratings are bad. This shouldn't be the way to make an objective ( lol ) top 10.
The best top 10 will always be made by an expert. Also a top 10 with different genres will never be accurate.

Look at the games seriously. Some great choices but they are all rpg or platform.
No SFII in a SNES top 10 ? Are you kidding me ? LOL

One opinion reflects the opinion of one person. An array of opinions describes the opinion of the entire population of consumers, assuming test sample is evenly distributed(or some other distribution that is determined and adjust ratings accordingly) among it.

Like if all the opinions have equal value =)
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Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
April 30 2011 12:52 GMT
#10
Oh the memories of Kirby Super Star...but I really missed out on most of the SNES games. But seriously this needs room for E.V.O. Search for Eden. Has anyone played/heard of it? It's true sex.
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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
April 30 2011 13:06 GMT
#11
Secret of mana is definitely one of the most fun games I ever played with friends. It is different from any other RPG before or since as far as I know. The sequels to secret of mana don't come close.
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KillemallCFH
Profile Joined December 2010
United States45 Posts
April 30 2011 13:55 GMT
#12
As someone who's heavily into retro gaming, those lists seem okay, except for the disturbing lack of Mega Man games.

On April 30 2011 22:06 Bosu wrote:
Secret of mana is definitely one of the most fun games I ever played with friends. It is different from any other RPG before or since as far as I know. The sequels to secret of mana don't come close.
Ever played Seiken Densetsu 3 (aka Secret of Mana 2)? It was never released in American, but you can easily find fan-translations online. Although there are 3 characters like in SoM, it's only two player. Thankfully, though, someone also made a hack (that's a bit buggy) to make it 3 player. My friends and I played through it last summer. It was really good. I'd still put SoM slightly above it, but there's a lot of things SD3 did better than SoM. I'd highly suggest checking it out if you're a fan of Secret of Mana.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
April 30 2011 14:06 GMT
#13
On April 30 2011 20:43 Ingenol wrote:
Really disagree with FF at #1, although it was good.

The rating scale is 1-10 with 10 being the best. Tied at 8.7, Final Fantasy has the lowest rating of all the games.
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eazo
Profile Joined March 2008
United States530 Posts
April 30 2011 14:17 GMT
#14
Looking at those SNES games brings back a wave of nostalgia... that system such awesome games T_T
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 14:37:19
April 30 2011 14:36 GMT
#15
just wondering what makes ff 3 (and 2 apparently) higher than 6 in SNES department. i fucking loved 6 on snes (although i never played 2 FF 2 or 3)

and wheres sf2 D:
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howerpower
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States619 Posts
April 30 2011 14:40 GMT
#16
Donkey Kong Country is my favorite game of all time. It's a great list, even if I find it odd that an rpg is at the number one spot.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
April 30 2011 14:44 GMT
#17
On April 30 2011 23:36 sung_moon wrote:
just wondering what makes ff 3 (and 2 apparently) higher than 6 in SNES department. i fucking loved 6 on snes (although i never played 2 FF 2 or 3)

and wheres sf2 D:

Could FF2 and FF3 be the american enumerations, making them FFIV and FFVI?
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Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
April 30 2011 14:47 GMT
#18
seems fine, but tecmo super bowl??
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
April 30 2011 14:47 GMT
#19
I'm pretty agreeable with the lists, although I'm deeply saddened that Rock n' Roll Racing isn't on the SNES list.

Seriously.

I still play that game!
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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
April 30 2011 14:48 GMT
#20
FUCK, Nintendo is just sooo good! The SNES days were the best, but man, Super Mario Galaxy is just soooooo good!
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Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
April 30 2011 15:03 GMT
#21
On April 30 2011 23:47 Zurles wrote:
seems fine, but tecmo super bowl??


This list objectively proves that Tecmo Super Bowl is better than Zelda
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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
April 30 2011 15:11 GMT
#22
On April 30 2011 23:40 howerpower wrote:
Donkey Kong Country is my favorite game of all time. It's a great list, even if I find it odd that an rpg is at the number one spot.



yo I was just thinking the same thing, DKC was an amazing game for its time and still is.
I might just have to emulate it since I never did finish that game as a kid.
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Tamel
Profile Joined March 2011
United States166 Posts
April 30 2011 15:27 GMT
#23
Goodness, i only owned 2 of those games for the SNES (Mario-all stars, and DK country), I was so deprived of good games when I was young, wish my SNES didn't die on me a few years ago .
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 30 2011 15:30 GMT
#24
On April 30 2011 21:52 Sephy69 wrote:
Oh the memories of Kirby Super Star...but I really missed out on most of the SNES games. But seriously this needs room for E.V.O. Search for Eden. Has anyone played/heard of it? It's true sex.

Back when people rented games, that was the one i got ALL the time
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shubcraft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany145 Posts
April 30 2011 15:34 GMT
#25
im totaly fine with chrono trigger on top, unarguably best snes game ever. planed to replay it once more when it came out on psx but the loading times sucked donkey balls.

im missing mega man & street fighter 2 in these lists tho.
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VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
April 30 2011 17:53 GMT
#26
The NES list needs Master Blaser.

Dunno about Chrono Trigger. Even as a big Square fan back in the day, I found the game not that great compared to FFVI and Secret of Mana.
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zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
April 30 2011 18:38 GMT
#27
LOL Chrono Trigger at 9.7. The game was good, not THAT good.
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Incognitodies
Profile Joined April 2008
United Kingdom184 Posts
April 30 2011 19:06 GMT
#28
Who the hell rates NES games on Gamespot anyways?
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 19:24:11
April 30 2011 19:20 GMT
#29
On April 30 2011 22:55 KillemallCFH wrote:
As someone who's heavily into retro gaming, those lists seem okay, except for the disturbing lack of Mega Man games.

Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 22:06 Bosu wrote:
Secret of mana is definitely one of the most fun games I ever played with friends. It is different from any other RPG before or since as far as I know. The sequels to secret of mana don't come close.
Ever played Seiken Densetsu 3 (aka Secret of Mana 2)? It was never released in American, but you can easily find fan-translations online. Although there are 3 characters like in SoM, it's only two player. Thankfully, though, someone also made a hack (that's a bit buggy) to make it 3 player. My friends and I played through it last summer. It was really good. I'd still put SoM slightly above it, but there's a lot of things SD3 did better than SoM. I'd highly suggest checking it out if you're a fan of Secret of Mana.
Google search actually missed seiken densetsu 3, tales of phantasia, and terranigma the first time i compiled the list :X but it was up there
Aah thats the stuff..
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
April 30 2011 19:35 GMT
#30
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
April 30 2011 19:50 GMT
#31
Yeah, that's a pretty good list - I don't agree with it 100% (chrono trigger would be rank 10~ for me, but oh well).
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4210 Posts
April 30 2011 20:15 GMT
#32
On April 30 2011 20:28 xarthaz wrote:
SNES

9.7 Chrono Trigger for SNES
9.5 Final Fantasy III for SNES
9.5 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past for SNES
9.5 Super Metroid for SNES
9.5 Super Mario World for SNES
9.4 Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars for SNES
9.3 EarthBound for SNES
9.3 Secret of Mana for SNES
9.3 Super Mario All-Stars for SNES
9.3 Tales of Phantasia for SNES

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April 30 2011 21:50 GMT
#33
This measures popularity, and pretty much nothing else When I think of objective measurements, I usually hope the only criteria isn't just a popularity contest.
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Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 03:46:44
May 01 2011 03:46 GMT
#34
There is a glaring lack of Mega Man on this list. I agree with SMB3 being the best game on NES though. So good. Oh shit there's no DKC on the SNES list this is an outrage.
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Norway3381 Posts
May 02 2011 06:36 GMT
#35
Chrono Trigger will be released on virtual console this summer!
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
May 02 2011 07:49 GMT
#36
Love Chrono Trigger/FFVI

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United States32084 Posts
May 02 2011 14:23 GMT
#37
On May 01 2011 12:46 Zim23 wrote:
There is a glaring lack of Mega Man on this list. I agree with SMB3 being the best game on NES though.


The lack of Mega Man and Zelda on the NES were the only things I noticed right away. I don't know why, but I never cared for Dragon Warrior at all as a kid or even now... and Tecmo was a friggin awesome sports game at the time, pretty much the most depth ever at that point. Dunno if it deserves in over any of the Mega Mans (I loved 2) or the first Zelda.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
May 02 2011 16:33 GMT
#38
I would guess that since the ratings were assigned after the internet became widespread ans we were already in the PSX era, they don't reflect how good they were when they were released but rather how well they hold up.

Also JRPG fans tend to be more retro than most other genre fans.
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
May 03 2011 06:47 GMT
#39
On May 01 2011 06:50 Chef wrote:
This measures popularity, and pretty much nothing else When I think of objective measurements, I usually hope the only criteria isn't just a popularity contest.
Popularity would be the number of votes for a game. All the games in the list easily fill the popularity criterion(of having at least 100 votes on gamespot) so it is irrelevant in regards to them.
Aah thats the stuff..
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
May 03 2011 06:51 GMT
#40
On May 01 2011 03:38 zerglingsfolife wrote:
LOL Chrono Trigger at 9.7. The game was good, not THAT good.


Hmmm that's a pretty dangerous thing to say round these parts partner! *cowboy boots*
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
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