• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:13
CEST 21:13
KST 04:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy7[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple1BSL Season 235Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy Bot on ladder an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! Recent recommended BW games
Tourneys
[IPSL] IPSL is Back With Winter 26-27! [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1 [BSL23] SM: Ret vs TerrOr -> DragOn vs StRyKeR [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine All you football fans (soccer)! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Gaming Intensity, Problemati…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7554 users

Musicians - Looking to get your music out there?

Blogs > Psyonic_Reaver
Post a Reply
Normal
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4342 Posts
March 03 2011 18:04 GMT
#1
I got a letter from JTV recently stating that we can't stream music anymore unless we have rights to the music or it's freeware music. If any stream re-broadcasts music it doesn't own, the channel gets shut down. (They also mentioned no more re-streaming youtube, other channels, game trailers, etc.)

So they have put a call out for musicians, of any kind, to email them and offer their music to be played on streams. They didn't give too much details, but I'm sure they will work out something beneficial for both parties.

Contact Emmett Sear at emmett at justin dot tv

****
So wait? I'm bad? =(
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
March 03 2011 18:10 GMT
#2
lool so if im reading correctly, people that play starcraft2 and streams it wont be allowed to listen to music at the same time because viewers on justin.tv will hear it?
Live it, love it, play it, kill it. JulyZerg and IPXZerg greatest TL.net fan
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 18:20:54
March 03 2011 18:20 GMT
#3
On March 04 2011 03:10 YunhOLee wrote:
lool so if im reading correctly, people that play starcraft2 and streams it wont be allowed to listen to music at the same time because viewers on justin.tv will hear it?


Yeah, sounds pretty strange to me.
I wonder if they can atleast play free internet radio-channels on stream?

e. oh I guess that falls under freeware music?
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
March 03 2011 18:21 GMT
#4
On March 04 2011 03:20 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2011 03:10 YunhOLee wrote:
lool so if im reading correctly, people that play starcraft2 and streams it wont be allowed to listen to music at the same time because viewers on justin.tv will hear it?


Yeah, sounds pretty strange to me.
I wonder if they can atleast play free internet radio-channels on stream?

e. oh I guess that falls under freeware music?

Depends on the site. Most of the time you can't re-transmit.
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
March 03 2011 18:52 GMT
#5
Hrm... Might have to see what sort of deal JTV is going to make Wouldn't mind submitting a few songs.
Wahaha
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States694 Posts
March 03 2011 18:54 GMT
#6
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why use Justin tv then?
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
March 03 2011 18:58 GMT
#7
i was kind of suspecting this would come about, its just how the business works.hopefully something gets figured out but otherwise i dont think it would be that big of a hit to have no music on the streams. plus, the players could still set the stream up to not have the music streamed if they want to listen to it that badly.
Disciple....Top 3 control in Clarion County
DeckOneBell
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States526 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 19:07:57
March 03 2011 19:06 GMT
#8
On March 04 2011 03:54 Teogamer wrote:
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why use Justin tv then?


Not really. Pretty likely that streaming music before was already illegal, but not a big enough deal for Justin TV to enforce. As their ad revenue increases, they need to cover more of their legal bases.

It's no different than the radio having to licence the music it plays. Or grocery stores, or restaurants.

Not all people actually pay for the use of the music (beyond the initial purchase price) but legally, you are required to.

EDIT: So more specifically, all streaming sites are supposed do this, but do not, necessarily, do this.
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 19:11:31
March 03 2011 19:06 GMT
#9
So, this is only a guess.
Jtv seems quite different from the other streaming services since you can actually make profit from it, which we see e.g. incontrol and tyler use (/commercial). For Jtv not to be killed by countless copyright, I think this is a necessary move if this wish to continue their current business model.
Also, as I understand it, the other streaming services are only against people having VODs containing copyrighted stuff.
화이팅
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
March 03 2011 19:16 GMT
#10
I sent them an email submitting some of my music. Hopefully they'll be interested enough to check it out.
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
March 03 2011 19:29 GMT
#11
hmmmmmmmm

hmmmmmmmmmmm

emailed!
Moderatorsloppy little slug
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
March 03 2011 19:56 GMT
#12
This is somewhat standard from real life stores.. so I dont see why streams online should be any different really. You are using an artists product, you shouldnt be able to use that for free without their permission.

Say you goto a hairdresser / barbershop, or any small store.. If they are playing the radio or any CDs there, they HAVE to pay the music rights to do so. In Canada, they pay SOCAN a business lisence to play public music, its a yearly amount then they can play the radio for that one year.. Im not sure the name of the organization in the US/other countries, but at least in North America, it is required.

The reason why they do this, is so the artists who make those songs can get some money back for their music being played. I am a member of SOCAN, and while I dont have anything on the radio as an artist yet, Its an important part of how musicians make a living. Without royalties we would get very little after the initial sale of the album (which, as you know with illegal downloading these days is basically nothing) and live shows.. If someone is playing our music we should get paid for it.. if you were a graphic design artist, you wouldnt want someone using your graphics on their store without your permission, right?
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 20:04:11
March 03 2011 20:03 GMT
#13
On March 04 2011 04:56 Skyze wrote:
Im not sure the name of the organization in the US/other countries, but at least in North America, it is required.


In America the main one is ASCAP and in the UK (and EU also I believe) its PRS. I'm a member of PRS, but a lot of my stuff isn't registered as I've given it out for free, or on a specific contract.

On March 04 2011 04:56 Skyze wrote:
you wouldnt want someone using your graphics on their store without your permission, right?


This is true, but I think there's something to be said for the exposure that can be gained for artists by hearing commercial music on livestreams. I mean, I've tracked down artists that I've heard on other people's livestreams and, on some occasions, purchased those artist's albums. I wouldn't have made that purchase if I hadn't heard it on the stream.

Also, a lot of what I hear, or what is being heard for free (on services like Spotify or Grooveshark), is being paid for by adverts. Couldn't the stream site just negotiate a percentage of ad revenue to be paid to the collection agencies?
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
March 03 2011 20:17 GMT
#14
What if it's a radio station already streaming for free?
TwitteR: @NeverExpo follow me, i'll follow back :)
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
March 03 2011 20:46 GMT
#15
Whaaaaaat?!
NO MORE NANA?!!!
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Zeroes
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1102 Posts
March 03 2011 20:57 GMT
#16
Listen to Korean or chinese music i am sure they won't know what songs they are
Check out my SC Lan pics Here: http://picasaweb.google.com/bunk.habit
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
March 03 2011 21:11 GMT
#17
I emailed! Hope he likes the dubsteps.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
March 03 2011 21:15 GMT
#18
On March 04 2011 05:46 KawaiiRice wrote:
Whaaaaaat?!
NO MORE NANA?!!!

Yep.

I'm really sad because I set up a new playlist for myself the day the email came @_@
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
March 03 2011 22:09 GMT
#19
I'm pretty sure there's a way for you to play music and not have it input into whatever recording software it is you use. So you can have just game sounds/microphone being played while streaming.
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
March 03 2011 22:40 GMT
#20
On March 04 2011 05:46 KawaiiRice wrote:
Whaaaaaat?!
NO MORE NANA?!!!


I have a feeling Nana will be allowed
Wahaha
sarbandia
Profile Joined February 2011
United States6 Posts
March 03 2011 23:05 GMT
#21
Hey, just wanted to chime in and say thanks so much for posting this - we've gotten a bunch of good leads for music already!

(Sarbandia = Emmett)
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4342 Posts
March 03 2011 23:12 GMT
#22
No problem! I love JTV and I hope to streaming on there again soon but right now too much work and school goin on.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 23:17:09
March 03 2011 23:15 GMT
#23
This actually seems like a really good idea, as long as some decent artists can get their content out it will really spread their stuff.

edit: and this actually seems like a really stupid move for record companies, because most people probably aren't going to JTV to listen to music, so any thing that is playing there is advertisement for the most part.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
March 04 2011 09:15 GMT
#24
Can we still stream SC themed parodies? Like Bronze League Heroes, Banelings, and Dan? Or the Tasteless song?
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-06 16:44:50
March 06 2011 13:51 GMT
#25
OCremix! seriously, do some digging and get some stuff off there. It's all freely available and there's enough to make a sick playlist at least three or four hours long

edit: just checked them and there's a bunch of really good new stuff, posted about it in the general forum here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=198882
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13422 Posts
March 07 2011 02:23 GMT
#26
This is actually TERRIBLE news for Day 9 I mean he loves playing his music before going live doesn't he?

StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#64
RotterdaM879
TKL 409
TaKeTV 358
IndyStarCraft 256
SteadfastSC185
ZombieGrub124
BRAT_OK 78
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 879
TKL 409
ByuN 386
IndyStarCraft 256
SteadfastSC 185
ProTech130
ZombieGrub124
BRAT_OK 78
MindelVK 14
EnDerr 3
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 808
Britney 337
BeSt 119
firebathero 90
Trap 39
910 25
scan(afreeca) 19
yabsab 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever12
Counter-Strike
fl0m1172
pashabiceps1046
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby3514
Liquid`Hasu463
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi3339
FrodaN1111
Beastyqt769
B2W.Neo579
ceh9501
mouzStarbuck307
ArmadaUGS155
KnowMe115
C9.Mang0103
Dewaltoss79
Trikslyr70
UpATreeSC64
Mew2King48
Chillindude16
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV40
[ Show 22 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 163
• mYiSmile128
• EnkiAlexander 14
• StrangeGG 5
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 34
• 80smullet 21
• Azhi_Dahaki16
• Michael_bg 12
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 5344
• masondota21682
League of Legends
• Nemesis2463
• TFBlade989
Other Games
• imaqtpie1030
• Shiphtur275
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
14h 48m
Afreeca Starleague
14h 48m
Light vs EffOrt
OSC
16h 48m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 4h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 15h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
GSL
5 days
[ Show More ]
Yamato Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.