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Drizzt3
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States189 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 21:02:35
February 28 2011 20:34 GMT
#1
As many people have already pointed out, there are sooo many complaints about the maps, kelly, balance, etc. You name it, a bunch of teamliquiders probably raged about it. Seriously guys, stop talking so much shit. I'm not saying you have to be super positive about everything, but there is a major difference between legitimately disucussing a topic or person in an open minded fashion and just talking shit about it. Take Artosis and Idra's show "IMBALANCED" for example. If you've ever watched an episode, you know that the two calmly discuss every aspect of different balance scenarios, and very rarely actually label something imbalanced. That is a VASTLY different approach than if they were to simply complain about Blizzard and zerg being weak and the maps sucking, without really considering any other points of view or any facts that don't support your complaints.+ Show Spoiler +
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"Before my time is done I will look down at your corpse and smile."-Brad Pitt (Achilles)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 28 2011 20:43 GMT
#2
I was going to make a post of this, but then it'd show me as a non-bubbly person.

I personally despise people who hate and judge before something comes out. My policy was always: Wait and see. Don't worry, stop bitching, stop whining about something you cannot control or don't understand as well or know all about, just wait
and
see

wait
and
see

Seriously, be patient, wait and see how it turns out and then make your fucking complaints. Does everyone complain about the food they order at a restaurant before it has even arrived? Geez...

Agree with you, a lot of complainers here but I think it's because 1. we focus on them more than positive posts and 2. those who are satisfied don't generally say much.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
February 28 2011 20:43 GMT
#3
Im glad you are here to complain about the complaining.
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 20:46:28
February 28 2011 20:45 GMT
#4
On March 01 2011 05:43 Vequeth wrote:
Im glad you are here to complain about the complaining.



What a cop-out. Everyone uses this line as if it's meant to portray an irony or wit that isn't already evident.

Hey, thanks for pointing out the obviousness that deters the point of the topic :3 Let's see if I can break your logic:

He's criticizing the complainers? So in reality, he's criticizing the critics and that's a commonality in the actual world.

Hm, yes sir, it seems I have swept your argument under the rug. Point being, if people can complain about generally good things or just events in general before they've even occurred, I'm sure the complainers of those complainers can complain about the complaints that have already occurred.

Cheers.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
February 28 2011 20:45 GMT
#5
5stars.

Stop being spoiled brats, and try to have enlightening discussions instead of nerdbashing every single change and every single non-change. Thanks.
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
February 28 2011 20:47 GMT
#6
On March 01 2011 05:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 05:43 Vequeth wrote:
Im glad you are here to complain about the complaining.



What a cop-out. Everyone uses this line as if it's meant to portray an irony or wit that isn't already evident.

Hey, thanks for pointing out the obviousness that deters the point of the topic :3 Let's see if I can break your logic:

He's criticizing the complainers? So in reality, he's criticizing the critics and that's a commonality in the actual world.

Hm, yes sir, it seems I have swept your argument under the rug. Point being, if people can complain about generally good things or just events in general before they've even occurred, I'm sure the complainers of those complainers can complain about the complaints that have already occurred.

Cheers.

Man don't even worry about him, haters are gonna hate.

But i agree, i really have gotten sick of the non-stop whinning in the SC2 thread. I can't read them that much anymore. I just want TSL to get here so people will be distracted from all the stupid stuff.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
February 28 2011 20:48 GMT
#7
Seriously guys, stop talking so much shit.

+ Show Spoiler +
Is that you Huk?

For the most part I agree, but it's not like you can force people not to complain. Just ignore it. I doubt this post or consequent posts will allow people to see the error of their ways.
limonovich
Profile Joined September 2010
England226 Posts
February 28 2011 20:50 GMT
#8
deal with it
trololo
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 28 2011 20:51 GMT
#9
On March 01 2011 05:48 Enervate wrote:
Show nested quote +
Seriously guys, stop talking so much shit.

+ Show Spoiler +
Is that you Huk?

For the most part I agree, but it's not like you can force people not to complain. Just ignore it. I doubt this post or consequent posts will allow people to see the error of their ways.


Haha, great spoiler.

HuK had a point though, the execution was a mix between LOL and erm...
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Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
February 28 2011 20:53 GMT
#10
On March 01 2011 05:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 05:43 Vequeth wrote:
Im glad you are here to complain about the complaining.



What a cop-out. Everyone uses this line as if it's meant to portray an irony or wit that isn't already evident.

Hey, thanks for pointing out the obviousness that deters the point of the topic :3 Let's see if I can break your logic:

He's criticizing the complainers? So in reality, he's criticizing the critics and that's a commonality in the actual world.

Hm, yes sir, it seems I have swept your argument under the rug. Point being, if people can complain about generally good things or just events in general before they've even occurred, I'm sure the complainers of those complainers can complain about the complaints that have already occurred.

Cheers.


You read into that waaaaay too much, my point being he brought nothing new to this table.
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 28 2011 20:55 GMT
#11
On March 01 2011 05:53 Vequeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 05:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
On March 01 2011 05:43 Vequeth wrote:
Im glad you are here to complain about the complaining.



What a cop-out. Everyone uses this line as if it's meant to portray an irony or wit that isn't already evident.

Hey, thanks for pointing out the obviousness that deters the point of the topic :3 Let's see if I can break your logic:

He's criticizing the complainers? So in reality, he's criticizing the critics and that's a commonality in the actual world.

Hm, yes sir, it seems I have swept your argument under the rug. Point being, if people can complain about generally good things or just events in general before they've even occurred, I'm sure the complainers of those complainers can complain about the complaints that have already occurred.

Cheers.


You read into that waaaaay too much, my point being he brought nothing new to this table.


What would you suggest he bring in about a blog that revolves around himself.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
drag_
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England425 Posts
February 28 2011 20:56 GMT
#12
The thing that annoys me far more than the whining is the sense of entitlement that a lot of people have on TL and on the internet in general. There are a lot of people who have this idea that they're entitled to this or that for whatever reason. Actually now thinking about it this is more a cause of whining as these people then go whine whenever they don't get their way.
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
February 28 2011 20:58 GMT
#13
So instead of complaining people are supposed to just sit back and hope things get better? Makes no sense. If nobody complained then nothing would ever get better. A company or person doesn't know that they are doing something wrong if nobody speaks up about it.
Wahaha
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 21:00:21
February 28 2011 20:59 GMT
#14
On March 01 2011 05:58 aike wrote:
So instead of complaining people are supposed to just sit back and hope things get better? Makes no sense. If nobody complained then nothing would ever get better. A company or person doesn't know that they are doing something wrong if nobody speaks up about it.


I'm getting ground-breaking news that constructive criticism and open-mindedness is more contributory than whining.

We'll have more at 11 as well as the controversial topic: Is whining the same as constructive criticism: we have our experts Dr. Duh, Dr. Lipschitz & Mrs. Derp with us tonight.

Stay Tuned!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Drizzt3
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States189 Posts
February 28 2011 21:04 GMT
#15
There we go. Added a spoiler picture . I know I may not be adding anything necessarily new to the table here, but it's still worthy of a blog post, at least judging by the standards of certain other blog posts I've seen haha no offense
"Before my time is done I will look down at your corpse and smile."-Brad Pitt (Achilles)
Cryogenic
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada75 Posts
February 28 2011 21:06 GMT
#16
Agree, OP.

The SC2 boards are getting harder to read because of the constant, baseless complaining. It was Darwin who stated that "it is not only the strongest who will survive but also those who are the most adaptable".

Let them complain and boycott the ladder. They won't be the last ones standing.
"If you don't go after what you want, you'll never have it. If you don't ask, the answer is always no. If you don't step forward, you're always in the same place." - Nora Roberts .:| Scarlett |:.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
February 28 2011 21:18 GMT
#17
people bitching about maps and an announcer with a questionable grasp on english now falls under baseless complaining??

How do you get a company to change something without bitching or going the route of an ultimatium (I will not buy whatever, I will not watch GSL, etc)

???

sure there was a ton of morons and bigots in that thread, but the compaints were hardly small or unmerited
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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
February 28 2011 21:22 GMT
#18
LET"S JUST TRY TO HAVE A NICE TIME FOR ONCE
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 21:27:51
February 28 2011 21:27 GMT
#19
On March 01 2011 05:59 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 05:58 aike wrote:
So instead of complaining people are supposed to just sit back and hope things get better? Makes no sense. If nobody complained then nothing would ever get better. A company or person doesn't know that they are doing something wrong if nobody speaks up about it.


I'm getting ground-breaking news that constructive criticism and open-mindedness is more contributory than whining.

We'll have more at 11 as well as the controversial topic: Is whining the same as constructive criticism: we have our experts Dr. Duh, Dr. Lipschitz & Mrs. Derp with us tonight.

Stay Tuned!


How can I say "get a better accent" in a constructive way exactly? No matter how I say Kelly's accent is bad, or the maps are imbalanced or whatever, people will take it as me bitching. There's no way to say it in a constructive way without people thinking you are just whining.
Wahaha
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 28 2011 21:31 GMT
#20
On March 01 2011 06:27 aike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 05:59 Torte de Lini wrote:
On March 01 2011 05:58 aike wrote:
So instead of complaining people are supposed to just sit back and hope things get better? Makes no sense. If nobody complained then nothing would ever get better. A company or person doesn't know that they are doing something wrong if nobody speaks up about it.


I'm getting ground-breaking news that constructive criticism and open-mindedness is more contributory than whining.

We'll have more at 11 as well as the controversial topic: Is whining the same as constructive criticism: we have our experts Dr. Duh, Dr. Lipschitz & Mrs. Derp with us tonight.

Stay Tuned!


How can I say "get a better accent" in a constructive way exactly? No matter how I say Kelly's accent is bad, or the maps are imbalanced or whatever, people will take it as me bitching. There's no way to say it in a constructive way without people thinking you are just whining.


Do you even understand how "get a better accent" isn't remotely possible?
Start with suggesting something logically possible.


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