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I Love Jersey Shore (A Love Essay) - Page 2

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CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
February 03 2011 16:22 GMT
#21
I really can't imagine living as (or being around) people so shallow, fake and unintelligent.

What will they have left when their precious look disappear?

I understand the guilty pleasure of seeing such retards, but as a matter of personal dignity i prefer to avoid looking at such a pathetic side of humanity.
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ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 16:51:50
February 03 2011 16:27 GMT
#22
But it's not only a salute to drama. I wrote a bunch of other things I see in it. The entire contents of the characters of these people I find extremely interesting. How they relate to each other, how they sometimes converge to "normal" behavior and sometimes don't, how they've changed, etc.. I wanted to dig into what makes someone believe they are really cool because of the hair gel and bronzer, so I did, and found that he actually seems like a cool person after stripping away the things that to me just seem like products of being differently-minded and having a somewhat different value system, that he seems to think quite reasonably. Those things like orangeness and hair gel are just aspects of the world he operates in, they happen to be valued by like minded people.

An outsider might look at us on TL and say, wow those people think they are really cool because they spend hours and hours moving little video game dudes around, noticing how much everything top players do is clung to. But for us what is it? Something for fun and a world where we can find many like-minded people, and these people also value coming through in SC games, and thus spending good portions of time practicing. I don't see how it's really that different. They are just different value systems to me.

If you look for different things that doesn't automatically invalidate things that don't line up with it. It just means they are not for you. I look for those things in shows sometimes, so I watch The Wire, for example when I feel like that. But I look for fun and happiness in TV sometimes too, and this show is satisfying in that regard.

I'm not understanding really this belief that everything needs to be intellectual, tasteful, high-minded, lofty, etc.. I don't know many people who don't sometimes like to go to parties/dance/occasionally get stupid, so why is it so awful to have that basically in TV show form too? But Jersey Shore is one of the most interesting things to get stupid to I've found.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44607 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 16:39:22
February 03 2011 16:37 GMT
#23
I'm pretty sure that the cast of the Jersey Shore isn't even from New Jersey >.>

And yet we (I'm from New Jersey) now get associated with that show's cast. Sure, there are some guidos down the shore, and all over the world you'll find fake and shallow idiots who like to party, but that's not a proper stereotype for New Jerseyans
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ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 20:51:15
February 03 2011 16:49 GMT
#24
On February 04 2011 01:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I'm pretty sure that the cast of the Jersey Shore isn't even from New Jersey >.>

And yet we (I'm from New Jersey) now get associated with that show's cast. Sure, there are some guidos down the shore, and all over the world you'll find fake and shallow idiots who like to party, but that's not a proper stereotype for New Jerseyans


If people do the fist-pump reaction as the other post on the first page said, that's either just messing for fun, or otherwise isn't it a useful signal that that's not really someone who's company you really will enjoy.

New Jersey's reputation is way more firmly entrenched than just from Jersey Shore, it's like if dumb people are seriously going to stereotype based on it, who cares? I don't really expect New Jersey or anyone significant's perception of New Jersey to substantively change.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 03 2011 16:49 GMT
#25
This could be the greatest work of satire I have ever read.
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howerpower
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States619 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 18:00:56
February 03 2011 17:56 GMT
#26
I always assumed people watched the show because they hated it.

sidenote and not really that related, I love to watch unboxing and video game reviews on youtube, not because I'm interested in the games or the product, but because the people who make them are usually really bad at it and I just don't understand why they thought they needed to make the video. It's even better if it's something really old, like i've seen a bunch of snes unboxing videos before.


A pretty popular one is the irate gamer (basically a ripoff of AVGN), his videos are super bad, but he puts all this work into it and writes a script and does some cg stuff...

edit: that's just what I think of when I think of jersey shore.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
February 03 2011 17:59 GMT
#27
Its an awful show, but its entertaining as fuck, although I didn't watch any of the second, or current season because I'm busy playing sc, the first season was pretty good yo :p.
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Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
February 03 2011 18:39 GMT
#28
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 04 2011 00:58 ghermination wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2011 00:47 ZapRoffo wrote:
On February 04 2011 00:21 ghermination wrote:
Orange douchebags with hair gel, what's not to like?

In all seriousness, this show is just as stupid as any other reality bullshit. It's popularity is proof that 80% of the population is either brain damaged or straight up retarded.


Compelling argument...

But really, got any justification for essentially calling me brain damaged or retarded? I presented a good chunk of detail for my side, so at least give it a little thought or it just seems meaningless.

This show is the same kind of mindless, scripted "salute to drama" that's been popular for the past decade. Only teenage girls can truly appreciate the power of "drama", and to me it's just bad t.v. I don't want to see some guy who thinks he's badass because he slathers on more hair gel than the entire population of the state of Washington put together and sprays on some sort of extracted pumpkin pigment go out and annoy random people and get into scripted fights with equally plastic and uninteresting characters.

When i watch T.V. I'm looking for plot and character development, intellectual depth, and legitimate actors. Not "D.J. Pauly D" (D for Douchebag) strutting around like some varsity football player on his ninth year of highschool.

Edit: And furthermore, this show is almost a salute to ignorance! The characters are all (and this is the only phrase i can use) fucking stupid. This isn't an opinion. Americas constantly falling test scores and youth motivation isn't helped when they watch these idiots strut around and think "i don't need to work hard in school, i can just do a bunch of purely aesthetic upper body lifts and turn my hair into some sort of carnival attraction and millions of people will love me."

Remember in high school those guys who strutted around constantly filled with arrogance while treating everyone else like absolute shit? Or their female counterparts, your stereotypical cheerleaders who seemed to be unable to see anything other than a pair of bulging biceps and a "bro" complex? And then as soon as you got into college, these guys and girls got new names: Douchebags, and shallow bitches. The other vast majority of people matured up. Well these jersey shore retards are stuck in that senior year mentality and it's a terrible role model.

I know a lot of people watch this T.V. show, and that it's popularity seems to counter many of the things i've said. "The bad girls club" (pay a bunch of attractive women to scream and fight eachother) is also wildly popular and in the same genre and mold as this show. Do you care to tell me the entertainment value in that?

This is pretty much all I think about the show as well. I haven't watched the second season (I didn't even know there was one, but not surprised I guess, Tila Tequila's show had what, 2? Plus other seasons with other people), but the first one was unbearable to me. I did watch it from beginning to end because I really, really wanted to know what the fuss was all about, but I just couldn't see it. Tila's show was sort of entertaining, because you get to see (scripted or not) how far people can go for a relationship that will most likely not survive the 2 month period between the end of the show and the reunion, where the couple can barely communicate.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
February 03 2011 18:50 GMT
#29
I think this show is really entertaining and hilarious. It's captivating television. And to people that dismiss it as stupid or ignorant or whatever, sure the characters might be all those things. But that doesn't mean it's not entertaining. I'm not watching it to learn life lessons or better myself, I'm laughing at what happens and how ridiculous it is. It's great TV.

I think Jersey Shore is way better than most of the crappy reality TV and dating contest shows. Sure it's "low brow" but that's what makes it so great. The people are pretty engaging, have distinct personalities, and the social dynamics on the show are amazing and hilarious. A lot of people can appreciate the entertainment this show brings. My roommates and I would watch this show every week, and I lived with all law students.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32075 Posts
February 03 2011 20:38 GMT
#30
On February 04 2011 01:49 ZapRoffo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2011 01:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I'm pretty sure that the cast of the Jersey Shore isn't even from New Jersey >.>

And yet we (I'm from New Jersey) now get associated with that show's cast. Sure, there are some guidos down the shore, and all over the world you'll find fake and shallow idiots who like to party, but that's not a proper stereotype for New Jerseyans


If people do the fist-pump reaction as the other post on the first page said, that's either just messing for fun, or otherwise isn't it a useful symbol that that's not really someone who's company you really will enjoy.

New Jersey's reputation is way more firmly entrenched than just from Jersey Shore, it's like if dumb people are seriously going to stereotype based on it, who cares? I don't really expect New Jersey or anyone significant's perception of New Jersey to substantively change.


please tell me what that reputation would be

all mobsters from the sopranos? everyone acts like that vid my new hair cut?? now it's all jersey shore stuff, beat the beat

whenever i leave new jersey, the second someone picks up on my accent, i will hear one of those three jokes. that's very much jersey's rep hahah
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
February 03 2011 20:44 GMT
#31
That or a toxic air/smell joke.
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ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 20:50:22
February 03 2011 20:47 GMT
#32
On February 04 2011 05:38 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2011 01:49 ZapRoffo wrote:
On February 04 2011 01:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I'm pretty sure that the cast of the Jersey Shore isn't even from New Jersey >.>

And yet we (I'm from New Jersey) now get associated with that show's cast. Sure, there are some guidos down the shore, and all over the world you'll find fake and shallow idiots who like to party, but that's not a proper stereotype for New Jerseyans


If people do the fist-pump reaction as the other post on the first page said, that's either just messing for fun, or otherwise isn't it a useful symbol that that's not really someone who's company you really will enjoy.

New Jersey's reputation is way more firmly entrenched than just from Jersey Shore, it's like if dumb people are seriously going to stereotype based on it, who cares? I don't really expect New Jersey or anyone significant's perception of New Jersey to substantively change.


please tell me what that reputation would be

all mobsters from the sopranos? everyone acts like that vid my new hair cut?? now it's all jersey shore stuff, beat the beat

whenever i leave new jersey, the second someone picks up on my accent, i will hear one of those three jokes. that's very much jersey's rep hahah


I always thought people thought New Jersey is basically the garbage dump of America/that was the rag on it or joke. Not that I think that, my mom grew up in Jersey, so I have some of it in me and know it's pretty normal for the most part.

Also yay hot_bid can see where I'm coming from, so I don't feel like I'm by myself taking crazy pills.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32075 Posts
February 03 2011 20:49 GMT
#33
yeah that too but i hear the others more because people have actually seen that. most people who talk about the smell or all the garbage dumps have seen neither (or actually passed threw Newark Airport, where it does smell that bad)
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Raeleigh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 22:24:08
February 03 2011 22:18 GMT
#34
On February 03 2011 23:04 cava wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2011 23:01 Scaramanga wrote:
I hate the show. I've seen 2 episodes and that's all I could stand, they're a bunch of gaudy arseholes and I don't understand how anyone can watch the show apart from to laugh at them.


I agree. The characters on the show are not quality human beings. I can't stand watching it.

It's not your decision on who is a quality human being and who isn't. You can think that they might be, but it doesn't mean they aren't.

When the show first came out, I avoided it with all costs because I couldn't believe how ridiculous the idea of it was.

I ended up caving about 2 months ago, and watched all of the first season, the second season, and all the extras. Now i'm currently keeping up with the 3rd season.
The more you watch the show, as ridiculous as they, the silly fights they get into, the how much they drink, they are real, quality human beings. |: You start finding that out when you take the time to watch it.

In any case, I love this show. ;__; and I love Jwoww. ;_____; ♥


On February 04 2011 01:22 CrimsonLotus wrote:
I really can't imagine living as (or being around) people so shallow, fake and unintelligent.

What will they have left when their precious look disappear?

I understand the guilty pleasure of seeing such retards, but as a matter of personal dignity i prefer to avoid looking at such a pathetic side of humanity.

You know that quite a few of them on the show HAVE gone to school? Vinny has gone to school, graduated, and is planning to go to LAW SCHOOL is acting doesn't work out. A few others have been to university, and have a head on their shoulders. (I'm not saying all of them because honestly, not all of them do)

You're joining that "pathetic side of humanity" when you act like you know everyone already, and act like you're better than them. :/
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32075 Posts
February 03 2011 22:34 GMT
#35
quality people??? they're shallow, depraved and dont give a shit. its funny to watch but what the hell, there's nothing 'quality' about that are you kidding me hahahahaha
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Raeleigh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 22:46:01
February 03 2011 22:39 GMT
#36
On February 04 2011 07:34 Hawk wrote:
quality people??? they're shallow, depraved and dont give a shit. its funny to watch but what the hell, there's nothing 'quality' about that are you kidding me hahahahaha

And you've met them? You've had an in-depth conversation about different matters at life that can tell you they're shallow, depraved, and don't give a shit?
Yeah, it's a TV show, and TV show will only show one side of them.
You clearly cannot see past people's exteriors and who they appear to be if you're getting just that from the TV show.
You don't have the right to say that they're not quality people if you can't even be one yourself.
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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 23:09:34
February 03 2011 22:56 GMT
#37
FINE i Love jersey shore..
Raeleigh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
February 03 2011 22:57 GMT
#38
That's honestly, really disgusting.
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ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
February 03 2011 23:01 GMT
#39
Sorry Raeleigh, but Jwoww is my future wife. Although she probably won't agree to get more reasonable boobs in the near future so my physical attraction won't be full capacity. But it's still ok.

Oh wait if your twitter is ashley you are probably a chick, so it's cool unless you were hoping for lesbian life partner. Now I just have to get her to like non-buff pale-ish dudes and get Roger out of the way.
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 03 2011 23:08 GMT
#40
Personally, I would much rather be watching a nature, science, or history documentary on Discover or PBS. Why be only entertained when you can be educated AND entertained at the same time?

As much as I respect people's decision to watch Jersey Shore, I personally feel that the quality and value of it's entertainment pales in value to many other programs which no longer grace the airwaves. It pains me to see more people watch this show as opposed to Firefly or Arrested Development or any other brilliant show that was cancelled before its prime.

Then again, I might as well sit on top of an ivory tower with a top hat and monocle and mustache, smoking a pipe in front of a library fireplace while reading War and Peace.
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