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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 08:51:06
January 29 2011 08:22 GMT
#1
I don't have as many stories as most of the posters who get to 5k. I didn't play much on iccup and I only got gold league in SC2. So I decided to go from all the VODs in the TL database from June 2009 to the present, see which games I remember watching, and tell a quick story about why.

Then I realized that would take way too long, so here's a bunch of English commentaries from when I started watching BW. I only picked games I definitely remember watching.



Leta vs Lomo on Shades of Twilight, proleague OZ vs hite which Cholera had decided to cast because it was important for the playoff race or something, I don't know. The only reason I remember this is because both terran names started with L, most of the early games I watched were a blur and I didn't know who either player was at the time, it wasn't even a great game.



Backho vs Yarnc from the same series. This was my first introduction to the Jaedong/Lomo/Backho love triangle, which was nearly confirmed by this interview.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1722275

Idra vs Yayba from an SC2GG tournament. (the one that "useful skill toi have" came from, though that was an earlier series with Draco) My first introduction to how fucking solid Idra is, as well as how entertaining future WCG semifinalist Yayba is.



The epic Flash vs firebathero game. I didn't get why people complained about TvT until I started watching proleague regularly, because good TvTs are so awesome to watch. And if you're not watching a lot of games, the length isn't a problem.



Piano vs Canata from the Avalon MSL. Don't even bother asking why I remember this, I have no idea.



Bisu vs fantasy, also from Avalon MSL. fantasy made like no units and one commentator suggested that Bisu was throwing OSL to fantasy while fantasy was throwing MSL to Bisu.



Boxer vs Reach from e-stars. When I started watching BW I was surprised at the amount of respect old players get, with most sports you tend to get people thinking old players should retire already (Brett Favre anyone?) and looking for the next big thing.



Calm vs great from the 2009 playoffs. Nothing special about this except an underwhelming ending to the first Bo7 I ever watched.



A GIRL WON A GAME? AGAINST THAT GUY CHOLERA WORSHIPS AS A GOD?



Boxer vs Yellow on Nostalgia. Besides a few LAN games I had only played the SC campaign, where you used almost every unit. So I was wondering why these pros used only 3-4 units every game. Then Boxer nuked Yellow.



Savior vs Nada on Neo Medusa. I guess I just thought mech play was nice, and that Savior's face looked kind of weird. Didn't really know who they were yet.



Jaedong vs Canata on Carthage. My first intro to the role of scouting in BW, he kept an expo hidden forever.



Hyuk beating Jaedong. Apparently this was a huge upset or something?



Bisu vs Iris game 5. Iris' comeback was almost as insane as Klazart's wpm. Best game I had watched up to that point by far.



Fantasy vs Jaedong from PL, one of the first VODs I watched in Korean. Also a precursor to Flash's mass tank build against Calm in the EVER OSL.



Jaedong 4-pooling fantasy as revenge for the proleague finals. I really got a sense for Bo5s and rivalries after this.



I stayed up almost all night to watch the PL finals and it was the first time I watched BW live. Everyone was hyping a Bisu vs Jaedong finals and instead we got this cheesefest. I was not disappointed.



So apparently BeSt was some sort of monster and Lomo was a bit of a joke. That just made Lomo's comeback all the more impressive though.



Calm vs Kwanro from MSL finals. The first game was epic (and showed that Kwanro was completely outclassed) but the rest of the games were meh.

So yeah, I could go through games from late 2009 and all of 2010 but that would take forever since my memory's improved since then, and also this is a good way to introduce people to some good English commentary, Cholera especially was very good in the months before he quit.

Thanks to all the English casters, everyone who streams, every LR thread OP and poster, and all of TL for making me love this so much.

PS: You all hated SuperArc but he was right about Snow.

*****
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
January 29 2011 08:28 GMT
#2
PS: You all hated SuperArc but he was right about (P)Snow.


What did he say about (P)Snow?
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
January 29 2011 08:29 GMT
#3
I've been watching a lot of these old commentaries lately, and I'm definitely loving them. Can't say I've seen too many of the games you've listed, but I do remember some noteworthy ones from my scrolling.

Happy 5k!
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
January 29 2011 08:29 GMT
#4
Knowing superarc he'd say that Snow would be winning an osl.

Gratz on 5k, I myself just hit 1k .
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Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 08:49:07
January 29 2011 08:47 GMT
#5
Erm..."Useful talent toi have" was vs Draco, not vs Yayba

Nice write-up 5/5.

I feel like a major geek for having seen all the game except for that Leta vs Lomo game :/

On January 29 2011 17:29 Megaliskuu wrote:
I myself just hit 1k .


ahahahahah

"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
January 29 2011 08:48 GMT
#6
On January 29 2011 17:29 Megaliskuu wrote:
Knowing superarc he'd say that Snow would be winning an osl.

Gratz on 5k, I myself just hit 1k .

>____________>


Congrats on hitting 5k, I've really liked your statistics and other contributions to the BW forum~
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 29 2011 08:50 GMT
#7
Also, 2 notes to the SC2 crowd:

1. Difficulty to play does not equal imbalance. Terran is the hardest race to play in BW and arguably the best (although very slightly) at a high level. Protoss is the easiest race to play and arguably the worst (again, very slightly) at a high level.

2. Your "macro mechanics" are preventing real macro from actually happening. Chrono boost makes the warp gate all in possible. Mules make SCV all-ins possible. Larva inject is the only "real" macro mechanic there is, and coincidentally most top zergs play a macro game! Hmmm.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
January 29 2011 08:56 GMT
#8
On January 29 2011 17:50 jalstar wrote:
Also, 2 notes to the SC2 crowd:

1. Difficulty to play does not equal imbalance. Terran is the hardest race to play in BW and arguably the best (although very slightly) at a high level. Protoss is the easiest race to play and arguably the worst (again, very slightly) at a high level.


That is so not true. You have to included the person's skill and the maps in the equation
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 09:03:51
January 29 2011 09:03 GMT
#9
I'm almost at 5000 posts too! Don't know what to write about though.
Brood War loyalist
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51032 Posts
January 29 2011 12:23 GMT
#10
Wow congrats.....I just hit 3k myself
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
FlashIsHigh
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States474 Posts
January 29 2011 13:07 GMT
#11
Hooray Ive been Lurking on TL for like 3 years and all i have to show for it is this account with less than 300 posts lol, but ive made a promise to be a more active poster I want to hit at least one thousand posts by Juneish
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