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Japanese and Korean Pop Music. Where to Start?

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Dayvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States77 Posts
January 02 2011 05:21 GMT
#1
Hello TL

I've been tuning in to some of the featured live streamers here on the net, as well as playing some highly rated songs on Osu! and I've been wanting to get into the foreign music scene for awhile now. However, I haven't really had any luck with music players like Pandora and Grooveshark. I don't really want to buy anything or download anything until I know my way around the music scene and using Youtube seems to be somewhat of a hassle because you have to know individual song names. Thus, I'm all out of ideas.

I've looked around TL forums also and found some cool songs but what I think I'm really looking for is something like Pandora Radio that will introduce me to knew stuff without having to nitpick songs from random forums.

So my question is: how did you get into the foreign music scene, if you're an outsider to Japanese and Korean music like myself? What mediums for listening to such music do you prefer? Do you have any other advice?

Thanks for any help!

Creek
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States177 Posts
January 02 2011 05:25 GMT
#2
I'm really into Kpop, and I found out about most of the bands and song by visiting this website:
http://www.allkpop.com/
a lot of it is pretty stupid, but it has band names. ^^;
wish you luck. :D
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 02 2011 05:26 GMT
#3
I have a friend who sends me them. I think she just browses youtube and keeps clicking on related videos until she finds something she likes.
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
January 02 2011 05:27 GMT
#4
Watch anime -> download anime openings -> oh hey, this singer's pretty good, I guess I'll listen to more of their songs.

Repeat as necessary.
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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
January 02 2011 05:35 GMT
#5
I got into the whole kpop stuff through friends. being asian in california is pretty useful :p. I usually listen through youtube, I have yet to download songs ><
I actually went to the big Kpop concert in LA (SMtown 2010) in september cause my friend wanted to go, so it was pretty fun. Follow the big Kpop companies on youtube perhaps? (SM/YM entertainment and other smaller ones)
^^
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Dayvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States77 Posts
January 02 2011 05:39 GMT
#6
Alright guys, thanks for the tips. I'll try them it out!
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
January 02 2011 05:43 GMT
#7
I used Spazer's recommendation. I also have a few Korean friends that hook me up with their recommendations. I prefer Japanese music though, since I don't understand any Korean at all. I also download Oricon top song list packs and check out albums of artists I like. You can also find interesting artists via music games like Osu! that you mentioned. For example, I found demetori and SHE from Stepmania.

For anime music, I use gendou.com.
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Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
January 02 2011 05:44 GMT
#8
K-pop - Start with SNSD or Super Junior
J-pop - Start with Ayumi Hamasaki or Hikaru Utada.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 02 2011 05:46 GMT
#9
On January 02 2011 14:27 Spazer wrote:
Watch anime -> download anime openings -> oh hey, this singer's pretty good, I guess I'll listen to more of their songs.

Repeat as necessary.


This, and also skim through the Japanese and Korean music discussion threads.
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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
January 02 2011 05:47 GMT
#10
On January 02 2011 14:44 Shiragaku wrote:
Hikaru Utada.

yesyesyesyesyesyes LOL.
if only for the KH YES
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RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
January 02 2011 06:08 GMT
#11
On January 02 2011 14:44 Shiragaku wrote:
K-pop - Start with SNSD or Super Junior
J-pop - Start with Ayumi Hamasaki or Hikaru Utada.

^Yes.
For something special as in K-pop AND J-pop by the same singer, go BoA. Also for J-Pop try UVERworld they're pretty good. If you want some english in the J-pop song listen to Monkey Majik (the singer is Canadian). K-pop IU! SNSD is okay, but not the best.
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
January 02 2011 06:21 GMT
#12
Morning Musume is the "girl idol group" equivalent in Japan.
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Dukat
Profile Joined April 2009
United States235 Posts
January 02 2011 06:32 GMT
#13
On January 02 2011 14:27 Spazer wrote:
Watch anime -> download anime openings -> oh hey, this singer's pretty good, I guess I'll listen to more of their songs.

Repeat as necessary.


^
This. I got like 90% of my Japanese music this way. Little harder with K-pop, but if you hear a song you like on a stream, ask about it. Someone in chat will know.
bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
January 02 2011 06:35 GMT
#14
Run man run before its too late, don't get sucked into their music, it will brainwash you nooo. but no, to each his own I say. Im sure you can find all your kpop needs in the official kpop thread
https://soundcloud.com/bbols
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
January 02 2011 06:41 GMT
#15
Here are some catchy jsongs I found watching streams this week:

Mami Kawada - No Buts
Perfume - Nee
Song for Bird [Sacred Factor]
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-02 06:50:17
January 02 2011 06:49 GMT
#16
I listen to Seoul FM on http://www.shoutcast.com/radio/KPOP -- they usually play the top songs, a few really nice ballads, and lots of DBSK.

If you want to start anywhere for kpop, start with DBSK. My Korean friend called them a national treasure xD and they seriously are. Most idol groups nowadays have designated rapper/singer/dancer/pretty person, but DBSK = talent.

edit: they also sing korean AND japanese songs! try love in the ice, bolero (jpn) ... mirotic (korean)
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Shigure
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States215 Posts
January 02 2011 06:55 GMT
#17
On January 02 2011 15:41 djcube wrote:

Song for Bird [Sacred Factor]



East New Sound is really good, srsly go check em out. Even though they arent really pop they r more like doujin music remix (its like super niche)
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n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
January 02 2011 07:23 GMT
#18
For the last year or two, every time I hear a kpop song I like I put it into a playlist on youtube. Obviously I have a particular taste but I can link it for you if want to have something to put on shuffle that will expose you to the music
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Agama
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States72 Posts
January 02 2011 07:49 GMT
#19
On January 02 2011 15:32 Dukat wrote:
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On January 02 2011 14:27 Spazer wrote:
Watch anime -> download anime openings -> oh hey, this singer's pretty good, I guess I'll listen to more of their songs.

Repeat as necessary.


^
This. I got like 90% of my Japanese music this way. Little harder with K-pop, but if you hear a song you like on a stream, ask about it. Someone in chat will know.


can you suggest some anime? Thanks :D
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
January 02 2011 07:51 GMT
#20
On January 02 2011 16:49 Agama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2011 15:32 Dukat wrote:
On January 02 2011 14:27 Spazer wrote:
Watch anime -> download anime openings -> oh hey, this singer's pretty good, I guess I'll listen to more of their songs.

Repeat as necessary.


^
This. I got like 90% of my Japanese music this way. Little harder with K-pop, but if you hear a song you like on a stream, ask about it. Someone in chat will know.


can you suggest some anime? Thanks :D

good, funny, stupid, or so terrible its hilarious? .
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
Agama
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States72 Posts
January 02 2011 07:54 GMT
#21
On January 02 2011 16:51 Juliette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2011 16:49 Agama wrote:
On January 02 2011 15:32 Dukat wrote:
On January 02 2011 14:27 Spazer wrote:
Watch anime -> download anime openings -> oh hey, this singer's pretty good, I guess I'll listen to more of their songs.

Repeat as necessary.


^
This. I got like 90% of my Japanese music this way. Little harder with K-pop, but if you hear a song you like on a stream, ask about it. Someone in chat will know.


can you suggest some anime? Thanks :D

good, funny, stupid, or so terrible its hilarious? .


Preferably not too stupid
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-02 07:59:22
January 02 2011 07:59 GMT
#22
On January 02 2011 16:54 Agama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2011 16:51 Juliette wrote:
On January 02 2011 16:49 Agama wrote:
On January 02 2011 15:32 Dukat wrote:
On January 02 2011 14:27 Spazer wrote:
Watch anime -> download anime openings -> oh hey, this singer's pretty good, I guess I'll listen to more of their songs.

Repeat as necessary.


^
This. I got like 90% of my Japanese music this way. Little harder with K-pop, but if you hear a song you like on a stream, ask about it. Someone in chat will know.


can you suggest some anime? Thanks :D

good, funny, stupid, or so terrible its hilarious? .


Preferably not too stupid

those were the best ones
thanks for reminding me that I need to watch anime by the way ><
generally good one: http://myanimelist.net/anime/205/Samurai_Champloo

I enjoyed this: http://myanimelist.net/anime/27/Trinity_Blood
http://myanimelist.net/anime/467/Ghost_in_the_Shell:_Stand_Alone_Complex

For laughs: http://myanimelist.net/anime/1699/Romeo_x_Juliet

also full metal alchemist lol.

edit: I like how i answer though i wasnt asked :p.
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Dayvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States77 Posts
January 02 2011 08:11 GMT
#23
Ghost in the Shell SAC was amazing. Would never have thought of tracking down the musicians involved, though... I'll have to check it out.
Dayvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States77 Posts
January 02 2011 08:14 GMT
#24
On January 02 2011 16:23 n.DieJokes wrote:
For the last year or two, every time I hear a kpop song I like I put it into a playlist on youtube. Obviously I have a particular taste but I can link it for you if want to have something to put on shuffle that will expose you to the music


If you would vouch for your taste and you think you'd be able to defend it if you were asked to, then yeah, I'd definitely be willing to hear what you're into.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
January 02 2011 08:15 GMT
#25

yoko kano for music, ORIGA for the russian (i think) vocals
o.O I used to listen to this song A LOT hahaaa
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Dayvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States77 Posts
January 02 2011 08:20 GMT
#26
@Juliette
Yeah, I've actually been playing that song on Osu! a bit. Its been kicking my ass : P
Do you know whether or not any of Yoko Kano's non-GitS music is worthwhile?
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
January 02 2011 08:30 GMT
#27
On January 02 2011 17:20 Dayvan wrote:
@Juliette
Yeah, I've actually been playing that song on Osu! a bit. Its been kicking my ass : P
Do you know whether or not any of Yoko Kano's non-GitS music is worthwhile?

Sadly I don't . I rarely listen to japanese music, more korean
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
January 02 2011 08:31 GMT
#28
The KPOP thread here on TL just recently just passed 1000 pages you should check it out .

As for KPOP, check out SNSd,2NE1,IU,Secret,KARA,T-ARA,SS501,f(x), shinee, bigbang. Thats all I can name from memory as I don't really know much at all about kpop . Have fun looking for new music!~
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Dayvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States77 Posts
January 02 2011 09:05 GMT
#29
Thanks Megaliskuu. I have actually looked through the kpop thread on a couple occasions, but I just find the task of flipping through a 1000 page thread a little daunting. Same with google search results when it comes to things like this too, I guess.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
January 02 2011 09:12 GMT
#30
On January 02 2011 18:05 Dayvan wrote:
Thanks Megaliskuu. I have actually looked through the kpop thread on a couple occasions, but I just find the task of flipping through a 1000 page thread a little daunting. Same with google search results when it comes to things like this too, I guess.

You could've just searched the Kpop thread for the very question you asked, since it gets brought up a lot. Read the pages following this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=98009&currentpage=923#18460
twitch.tv/cratonz
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
January 02 2011 09:15 GMT
#31
Utattemita is pretty good "JPop" that doesn't get mentioned enough =[

Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
January 02 2011 09:22 GMT
#32
On January 02 2011 17:20 Dayvan wrote:
@Juliette
Yeah, I've actually been playing that song on Osu! a bit. Its been kicking my ass : P
Do you know whether or not any of Yoko Kano's non-GitS music is worthwhile?

Yoko Kanno did the Cowboy Bebop OST, which is widely regarded as one of the best anime OSTs ever. She has a lot of stuff, and most of it is awesome.
Liquipedia
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-02 15:03:50
January 02 2011 15:02 GMT
#33
To avoid individual taste bias its better to use a more aggregated solution, like rating sites. my favourite is this one>

http://rateyourmusic.com/genre/K-Pop/
http://rateyourmusic.com/genre/J-Pop/
Aah thats the stuff..
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