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[Q] ZvT vs. Thors

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eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
December 19 2010 21:27 GMT
#1
Hey guys.

So recently I was Thor rushed by a terran on shakarus plateau. I never been in such a situation so i wasn't entirely sure what to do. I opted to go mass banelings to limited success. The biggest issue with the terran's attack was the SCV repair. I'm wondering what should i have done? Should i have gone muta's and tried to sack his economy? Would have roaches or hydras have worked better or what? Or should have I just scouted better and taken advantage of that? I'm kind of embarrassed about this loss. Replay is below.

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Magulina
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden152 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-20 01:32:57
December 19 2010 21:39 GMT
#2
I can't read properly sorry
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-19 21:47:14
December 19 2010 21:47 GMT
#3
Artosis mentions that you can use hold micro to get zealots/melee units to attack the scv if they're close enough to them.

Also in the current PTR patch, repairing SCVs gets the same attack priority as the unit they're repairing.
Guilty
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada812 Posts
December 19 2010 22:41 GMT
#4
On December 20 2010 06:39 Magulina wrote:
Without watching the replay I can almost guarantee that you didn't have a banelings nest. Because with a baneling nest this rush is very easy to hold, just blow up the scvs and then it doesn't matter which other units you have, whether it's roaches or speedlings or hydras or mutas.


Guess u didnt read the op...

Did u go only mass banes? because u really do need another unit to deal most of the damage once the scvs are dead. That being said, the thor rush can be very tough to stop in some situations.
"How hard could it be?" -J. Clarkson
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-19 23:40:07
December 19 2010 23:39 GMT
#5
Basically, you want enough banelings to take care of mnm and just have a shitload of roaches to deal with thors (make sure you focus fire). Mutas also work, but after a certain point they become very hard to handle. Mismicro = instantly lose everything.
:)
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
December 20 2010 00:24 GMT
#6
You might want to try this in the Strategy forum bro.
I like money. You like money too? We should hang out.
YiukeDukem
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States125 Posts
December 20 2010 00:28 GMT
#7
On December 20 2010 06:39 Magulina wrote:
Without watching the replay I can almost guarantee that you didn't have a banelings nest. Because with a baneling nest this rush is very easy to hold, just blow up the scvs and then it doesn't matter which other units you have, whether it's roaches or speedlings or hydras or mutas.


the third fucking sentence says that he went mass banelings

Anyway, your best bet would be to just control your banes better and then have lings clean up the rest.
quye
Magulina
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden152 Posts
December 20 2010 01:32 GMT
#8
Wow sorry for being stupid, not sure how I missed that, and as others already said in the thread - a few less banelings and more lings/roaches
Xaga
Profile Joined June 2010
United States163 Posts
December 20 2010 05:22 GMT
#9
Yay for you not getting pissed and raging =) (I actually watched it til the very end just to make sure)

But yeah, basically there were 2 big things you could've done. First of all, scout. You had an overlord to the left of his base the entire game, but didn't send it in at any point. Had you sent it in, you would've scouted the armory, and (hopefully) realized he was going for fast Thor(s). A great counter to Thors is Zerglings, but with all of those SCV's you'll want Roaches too (and a couple banelings if you already have the nest built, kills the SCV's instantly).

Second, even if you hadn't scouted the armory before the initial attack, you should have known Banelings wouldn't be very strong vs. a Thor. Since at that point you only had a Hatchery (no Lair), you should have built a Roach Warren and got some Roaches out asap. I'm really not sure why you had such a tough time with that... Thors by themselves (even being repaired) aren't that strong, and a single Thor can usually be killed with minimal losses (resource wise)...

Better luck next time though =)
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