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-CheekyDuck-
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia398 Posts
December 16 2010 03:02 GMT
#461
i dont like the stuff idrA said about tossgirl ='( mades me feel bad T_T
More expensive than a mothership
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
December 16 2010 05:41 GMT
#462
On December 16 2010 00:37 InfC.AnatoLiy wrote:
Any updates on the upcoming music track to this?


http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=176675

I'm pretty sure it's in production now :p
you gotta dance
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
December 16 2010 18:09 GMT
#463
I think it's ridiculous that we talk about IdrA's manners so much. IdrA and oGsInca are succesful SC2 players and I don't think either of their feelings will be hurt just beacuse someone doesn't say gg. Blizzard doesnt require anyone to say gg so you don't have to if you don't want to. I get that IdrA is an interesting player because of his attitude and skill level but it's kind of ridiculous that every thread is about how supposedly bm he is.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
December 16 2010 20:18 GMT
#464
On December 17 2010 03:09 takingbackoj wrote:
I think it's ridiculous that we talk about IdrA's manners so much. IdrA and oGsInca are succesful SC2 players and I don't think either of their feelings will be hurt just beacuse someone doesn't say gg. Blizzard doesnt require anyone to say gg so you don't have to if you don't want to. I get that IdrA is an interesting player because of his attitude and skill level but it's kind of ridiculous that every thread is about how supposedly bm he is.


I don't think its a question if he's BM or not, he absolutely is. Not gg'ing is as polite as IdrA gets.

It would be a shame if IdrA is remembered more for his BM than his actual success as a player. And that's not the community's fault. That's IdrA's.

You train people how to treat you, man. If you troll and curse out every other Pro player on the ladder, yeah, I think people are going to talk about your attitude. And you can't expect people to be diplomatic about it, because IdrA certainly isn't.

I don't care personally how many people he offends or talks shit about or what-have-you, but IdrA should, because it's going to have an impact on his long term interests and legacy as a player.

And unless he plans on making enough cash off tournaments to retire -- in this economy, he'd need to win at least 12 GSL tourneys -- than he should probably lighten up. Or at least vent privately to his buds about how bullshit a player is.



takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
December 16 2010 20:29 GMT
#465
^^ I somewhat agree with your comment but, I don't think not becoming friends with every single pro gamer out there will hurt IdrA's pro gaming success. He might not like some gamers, I don't know, but i'm not going to infer that he hates someone or doesnt respect someone just because he doesn't say gg. I mean he's on EG and its a succesful team so its not really hurting him right now. Yes it probably would be esier for him if he got along with everyone but some people just aren't like that. My biggest issue isnt that people talk about this subject, it's that it's talked about everytime a thread is made that has anything to do with IdrA. Im just saying in my opinion theres already 100 threads that talk about IdrA and none of them have anything to do with his actual gameplay and talent, it's always about his "bm". I would personally like to see more about how interesting and skilled players like IdrA and oGsInca is than post about how bm IdrA is. It's kind of old.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
Mintastic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States166 Posts
December 16 2010 20:30 GMT
#466
On December 15 2010 19:23 liaf wrote:
People need to stop derailing this thread by discussing the OP

Agreed. This is all about discussing the first reply.
테징징
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
December 16 2010 21:08 GMT
#467
On December 17 2010 05:29 takingbackoj wrote:
^^ I somewhat agree with your comment but, I don't think not becoming friends with every single pro gamer out there will hurt IdrA's pro gaming success. He might not like some gamers, I don't know, but i'm not going to infer that he hates someone or doesnt respect someone just because he doesn't say gg. I mean he's on EG and its a succesful team so its not really hurting him right now. Yes it probably would be esier for him if he got along with everyone but some people just aren't like that. My biggest issue isnt that people talk about this subject, it's that it's talked about everytime a thread is made that has anything to do with IdrA. Im just saying in my opinion theres already 100 threads that talk about IdrA and none of them have anything to do with his actual gameplay and talent, it's always about his "bm". I would personally like to see more about how interesting and skilled players like IdrA and oGsInca is than post about how bm IdrA is. It's kind of old.


Fair enough. I'm beating a dead horse.

Who's working on recording these lyrics guys? I can't rap worth shit.
eddytlaw
Profile Joined November 2010
United States102 Posts
December 16 2010 21:53 GMT
#468
ROFL
I fantasized about this back in Chicago.
zomgzergrush
Profile Joined August 2008
United States923 Posts
December 16 2010 22:21 GMT
#469
nogg is an idra trademark. read up on "villains of sc2."
Bronze skipping straight to Diamond in 40 games retail release. Bnet 2.0 ladder really takes it's sweet time to think about that league placement.
TheGreatWhiteHope_
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States335 Posts
December 16 2010 22:25 GMT
#470
On December 13 2010 17:32 kikimama wrote:
... Your biggest fan, Stan.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

I spit my water out
TsoBadGuy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States221 Posts
December 17 2010 00:11 GMT
#471
On December 13 2010 17:32 kikimama wrote:
... Your biggest fan, Stan.


hahaha, wp
Bnet ID: TsoBadGuy Code: 795 Who wants friends? :D
TzTz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany511 Posts
December 17 2010 00:11 GMT
#472
ah lol now i got it, but it's not so funny when you have to look for it Or maybe having to listen to strange terrible music just ruined it for me... who knows
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
December 17 2010 02:10 GMT
#473
On December 17 2010 09:11 TzTz wrote:
ah lol now i got it, but it's not so funny when you have to look for it Or maybe having to listen to strange terrible music just ruined it for me... who knows


Definitely an American-Teenager-9th Grade-Nostalgia-type thing.

I didn't find it that hilarious either.
positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
December 17 2010 02:39 GMT
#474
On December 14 2010 18:54 ace246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 14:46 Defacer wrote:
I'm going to put on my old man hat here.

I've been working as a designer/illustrator for 10 years. Right now I'm managing a multi-million dollar project and managing a team consisting of five design firms, a landscape architect and two architects.

I'm not qualified to opine about IdrA's gameplay or strategies, but I have an opinion about 'professionalism' in general that's worth considering.

The thing is, I WAS AN IDRA. All throughout school and my early career, I was busting my ass. I was pulling 24 hour days every other week. I took design so personally and seriously, I was notorious. I had a reputation for being brutally honest, and talking insane smack about other designers and their work. I cared a great deal about design, and didn't understand anyone who didn't take it as seriously as I did.

And while people respected me, I slowly started to notice that people didn't want to work with me.

IdrA restricts most of his BM on the ladder, but I think it helps to realize who IdrA is laddering against. This isn't Darkforce1879 or BronzeRandom2938. He's laddering against OGS's. Fou's. Primes.

Whether he likes it or not, these are his peers and colleagues. The ladder might as well be the office he works at, every single day.

And he's calling them faggots and telling them to fuck off whenever someone zealot rushes him.

Great for the fans. Bad for his career. If I talked about people in my industry the way IdrA does, I'd be considered unemployable. People wouldn't touch me with a ten foot pole.

Now, let's imagine [knock on wood] that something happens to EG. They have a bad year and they implode. Shit happens. What team is going to pick up IdrA?

Team Liquid? They share a house with OGS.

FXOpen? They just started a week ago.

Root? FNATIC? They already have great players they can't afford to send to Korea.

There are 32 S-Code players in the world. That's 32 jobs, 32 people on the same level as IdrA, 32 people that make a living playing SC2 full-time. We like to pretend that the SC community is huge, but most of us are on the outside looking in. The community of players and commentators that make a full-time living is actually very small.

Now, I'm not saying IdrA should change, or not be 'honest'. But there's a difference between being honest and indulging yourself for shits and giggles.

The only benefit IdrA gets from telling someone to fuck off is those two-seconds of self-satisfaction after you say it.

Meanwhile, he's torching relationships with people that he competes with, day in and day out.

Trust me, it's not worth it.

--

Also, consider this: perhaps the reason why players rush him isn't because they're 'bad' -- it might be because they don't want to help him practice, win or lose.


He only BM in ladder. Although he does talk Pessimistically IRL, he doesn't BM IRL, just when he is chatting online. He has paid his substantial contribution to society by not BMing when he talks to people facetoface. Advising him to stop his BM completely is practically telling him to live a lie. He has self-respect, his a non-conformist, the only person who dictates how he should live is himself, as it should be.


The only reason why he does not BM IRL is because he does not have the guts to do so. It is easy to call somebody a faggot when you are hiding behind a screen where nobody can touch you. My words do not carry much weight in this forum so please search for "foreigners still suck" authored by rekrul. That is one of the epic blogs that talks about accepting your losses like a man.
BROotogy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Eritrea149 Posts
December 17 2010 04:08 GMT
#475
On December 17 2010 11:10 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2010 09:11 TzTz wrote:
ah lol now i got it, but it's not so funny when you have to look for it Or maybe having to listen to strange terrible music just ruined it for me... who knows


Definitely an American-Teenager-9th Grade-Nostalgia-type thing.

I didn't find it that hilarious either.

I think the only reason I didn't find it funny is because I have known about that song (Stan) for years and the joke is not something new to me.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
December 17 2010 05:04 GMT
#476
On December 17 2010 13:08 BROotogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2010 11:10 Defacer wrote:
On December 17 2010 09:11 TzTz wrote:
ah lol now i got it, but it's not so funny when you have to look for it Or maybe having to listen to strange terrible music just ruined it for me... who knows


Definitely an American-Teenager-9th Grade-Nostalgia-type thing.

I didn't find it that hilarious either.

I think the only reason I didn't find it funny is because I have known about that song (Stan) for years and the joke is not something new to me.


I'm assuming that a lot people on this board started listening to Eminem at a pretty young age, like 7th or 8th grade.

Eminem peaked a little later in my life (my 20's). I remember riding the bus and there was a fourteen year girl that was rapping along to Stan and knew every single word.

This will probably sound insanely retarded depending on where you're from and how old you are, but he was the Kurt Cobain/John Lennon/Johnny Cash of some angry kid's generation.


RoK Ot7Er
Profile Joined June 2010
United States219 Posts
December 17 2010 05:07 GMT
#477
I couldn't agree more with the OP. Idra seems to always blame his losses on his opponents rather than himself. Instead of analyzing his mistakes, he criticizes them for playing "standard" or whining about how zerg is UP.

As a result of all this, I try to avoid EG and its sponsors like the plague. I know its not much, but I feel like its some sort of statement. If you lack professionalism, it will put your sponsors in a bad spotlight. I know it will never happen, but my dream is for Idra to go on some sort of rampage and be dropped by EG.

I can always dream right?
forgotten0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States951 Posts
December 17 2010 05:26 GMT
#478
On December 16 2010 00:06 ImBakedBro wrote:
ha bad manners = entertainment , IdrA's drama is not something 2 post about, its something to laugh about, i am a idra's fan but to sitback and say players dont rage about cheap cheese is dumb, and if u watch HuK's stream u can see his frustration as he types some shit way worse then idrA only difference is he doesn't press enter and he always gg's haha


IdrA also doesn't blatantly hit on other pro gamers' girlfriends on internet-spread videos.
"Well it’s obvious that these Terran gamers are just extremely gifted when it comes to RTS games" -Ret, in regards to the first months of SC2
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
December 17 2010 05:39 GMT
#479
Why the hell I didn't see this blog in the first place? lol this is so good kikimama's name also
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
InstantKarma
Profile Joined November 2010
United States205 Posts
December 17 2010 06:02 GMT
#480
http://yourbiggestfanstan.ytmnd.com/

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