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All right, so my high school has beta club, and it is having a raffle for a new laptop. Now, I need a new laptop as my current one can't play sc2. Im in america right now, but im probably going to Korea in about a month, and my parents won't let me go to pc bangs to play starcraft and stuff, because im in high school, and need to go to a good college. But im probably going to a boarding school in Korea, so i will be allowed to bring my laptop there, and if i can get a laptop that can play SC2... then that would be awesome.
Here are the specs for the laptop
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/notebooks/0,39050490,45295356p,00.htm
I know it has 2 gb ram, but i have 3gb on the other laptop, so i can just move the rams around. I'm not worried about the specs much because it has a 5470 ATI and a i3 processor, so no problem playing sc2.
So, here's my question. Should I enter this raffle, and if i do, how much money should I spend on it? Price of one ticket it 3$ and 5$ for 2. I don't think a lot of people entered the raffle, maybe about 150? Also, our house's 8 year old main computer broke down today, so I could give my old one to my mom(my dad has a new laptop anyway). I have to make this decision by the latest, on Monday, because they're having the drawin on Tuesday. Currently, Im thinking about spending 20$ for 8 tickets
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Osaka27172 Posts
20 bucks? No offense, but that isn't going to guarantee you anything. The laptop goes for $449 on the HP site. You should invest 224 bucks to get good odds for the laptop at half price.
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On November 19 2010 13:00 Manifesto7 wrote:
20 bucks? No offense, but that isn't going to guarantee you anything. The laptop goes for $449 on the HP site. You should invest 224 bucks to get good odds for the laptop at half price.
I would love to spend that much money, but Im a dirt poor high school student. I only have like 150 dollars right now, and I don't want to spend all of my money, and look like an idiot in school after if I don't win.
And the website said 770$ usd or something like that. Can you give me a link on hp that says its 449$? I have a hard time believing a laptop with a i3 processor, and a ati 5470 will only cost like 450$
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Osaka27172 Posts
Yeah but you look like a genius if you walk away with a 500 dollar laptop for 150.
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I think this would be a complete waste of money. Im not even sure this laptop can play sc2 but meh...specs dont say everything interestingly enough. You should save money!
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United States4053 Posts
On November 19 2010 13:00 Manifesto7 wrote:
20 bucks? No offense, but that isn't going to guarantee you anything. The laptop goes for $449 on the HP site. You should invest 224 bucks to get good odds for the laptop at half price.
Actually, even if he invested 224 bucks, that would be about 90 tickets, which judging from OP's estimate is still < 1/2 chance. Assuming there are 150 other tickets in the raffle (and I've done my calculations right), spending $74 allows you to have about a 74/449 chance of getting the laptop!
However, I still suggest you either buy a similar laptop or simply enter a couple tickets. In the latter case, though, I would definitely not count on winning.
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It's completely random, just get 1 or 2 tickets..
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On November 19 2010 13:07 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2010 13:00 Manifesto7 wrote:
20 bucks? No offense, but that isn't going to guarantee you anything. The laptop goes for $449 on the HP site. You should invest 224 bucks to get good odds for the laptop at half price. Actually, even if he invested 224 bucks, that would be about 90 tickets, which judging from OP's estimate is still < 1/2 chance. Assuming there are 150 other tickets in the raffle (and I've done my calculations right), spending $74 allows you to have about a 74/449 chance of getting the laptop! However, I still suggest you either buy a similar laptop or simply enter a couple tickets. In the latter case, though, I would definitely not count on winning.
My parents aren't gonna get me a new computer untill i get into college, and they're not gonna let me buy a new laptop even with my own money even if i got my own job and stuff
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Osaka27172 Posts
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too risky to invest a lot of money and have the chance of losing
i'd say $20 is a good amount, maybe even $30
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United States4053 Posts
The configuration the OP listed is around 560 before tax.
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That's just the starting price, the starting components are like Celeron processor, and intel integrated graphics, which sucks. Yeah, I saw that it was good specs for the laptop, and a girl told me they bought the computer for like 1k dollars. So, guys, how much money should I spend on it? And I really can't spend all my cash because Im not telling my parents about this, and if they find out I blew like 100 dollars on this, they're gonna be pissed. But if i only blow off a certain amount that is unnoticeable, and end up winning, its gonna be genius
EDIT: What the hell, I might just go all-in
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Osaka27172 Posts
There are times in life were you just have to take a stand. Let me tell you a true story. Sanyo just came out with a breadmaker that uses whole grain rice and automatically turns it into rice flour. It is revolutionary. 10k units sold out in a day, with no more made until the new year.
My wife wants one. Retail price, 50000 yen
Yesterday I took to Yahoo Auctions with a mission to get the perfect Christmas present. As expected, a handful of speculators had machines up for sale. With 1 hour to go I tapped in 60112 yen as my final bid. I was about to leave the auction to fate and go home, but I reconsidered, and upped my bid to 65112.
This morning I arrived to work triumphant, having outbid everyone by 10 bucks. Victory is sweet. I conquered the odds. My fearless bidding paralyzed others on the internet with fear.
I took a stand.
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buy 1 ticket, and bribe someone doing the raffle with $147.
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ROFL, I need to save money, so I'm gonna gamble so I win big. You can just send the money to me, it'll go to better use. Remember that you're paying for a chance, and lady luck enjoys screwing people over (what a bitch, eh?)
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Yeah, Im gonna find more about this and I will definitely consider going all-in. I just gotta find if there are enough tickets left because its been going on for like 2 weeks now. Thanks for the anecdote Mani.
Damn, I just found out I only had 80$
And also, Im not entire sure those are the right specs. I looked at the hp site, and it could be intel graphics or ati. When the beta club members gave me the specs sheet, it showed the specs on the cnet.review site, but it didn't have the video card
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Hong Kong4685 Posts
The math is easy. Take the total cost of laptop divide that by number of raffle tickets sold then divide that by $2.50. If the number is > 1. Then it's positive expected value to buy raffle tickets. If it's less than 1, then it's negative expected value. Be careful though, the more tickets you buy, the lower your EV gets. You should also be mindful of other people buying tickets before tuesday too.
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All right, lets say worst case scenario that the laptop is using Intel HD Graphics. Will this be able to run Starcraft 2, with a core i3 on low? And what would the fraps be? I tried searching for this online, but couldn't find any benchmarks for the Intel HD Graphics card
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United States4053 Posts
On November 19 2010 13:56 Tazza wrote:
All right, lets say worst case scenario that the laptop is using Intel HD Graphics. Will this be able to run Starcraft 2, with a core i3 on low? And what would the fraps be? I tried searching for this online, but couldn't find any benchmarks for the Intel HD Graphics card
According to this trustworthy site, the answer is no unless you consider ~20 fps playable (they tested an i7 and got ~30 fps on low), while the ATI card can top 100 fps on low easily. You should probably ask them about it.
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On November 19 2010 14:03 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2010 13:56 Tazza wrote:
All right, lets say worst case scenario that the laptop is using Intel HD Graphics. Will this be able to run Starcraft 2, with a core i3 on low? And what would the fraps be? I tried searching for this online, but couldn't find any benchmarks for the Intel HD Graphics card According to this trustworthy site, the answer is no unless you consider ~20 fps playable (they tested an i7 and got ~30 fps on low), while the ATI card can top 100 fps on low easily. You should probably ask them about it.
I asked like 3 people about it, but they told me they have no idea. Im gonna go up to one of the teachers that works in beta club and ask them about it.
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