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Drock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States305 Posts
November 16 2010 04:38 GMT
#221
You did great man! It's a bummer you didn't qualify, but Jinro didn't qualify his first try either. Looks like you got a ton of support behind you as well! Keep it up! Your're an inspiration to all us lesser Toss.

Stoked to hear about everything on the next SotG.

Peace
I kinda miss Idra...
sc2lime
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada513 Posts
November 16 2010 04:54 GMT
#222
On November 16 2010 13:14 jbyrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 13:03 privatehuff wrote:
Not sure if you addressed this but.. was there any awkwardness with the setup and your viking physique? Those booths look pretty small :/


They aren't in the booths for the qualifiers :/

I think he meant that the fact that in the qualifiers, the computer set up are right beside each other and it seemed too small of a space for Inc.
zergules
Profile Joined July 2010
United States55 Posts
November 16 2010 05:00 GMT
#223
It's too bad you didn't make it. It would be great to see you in the GSL televised matches. However, don't forget how far you went. Winning as many matches as you did is quite an accomplishment.

I must say that I'm always impressed when I read what you write or hear your insight on the state of the game. I'm definitely becoming an iNcontroL fan.
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
November 16 2010 05:16 GMT
#224
On November 16 2010 14:00 zergules wrote:
I'm definitely becoming an iNcontroL fan.

:D
I was always a fan, but not a very big one.
That's changed a lot in the past few weeks.

I'm sure you'll make it next time, dude!
WeeEEeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEee!!
vGDaverave
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Scotland110 Posts
November 16 2010 05:33 GMT
#225
ah man i so wanted you to qualify n the GSL! (i sat in college with the qualifiers thread open) i hope you get to go again i think we all know you can do it! wishing you good luck
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
November 16 2010 05:40 GMT
#226
I am sorry you didn't make it. Pity to come so close, too.

I really hope to see you in GSL eventually. That would be so cool. Stay with it and... next time, all things considered, I think you would do really well.

Best of luck.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
November 16 2010 05:43 GMT
#227
Inc it was nice meeting you. I'm glad you had a valuable experience yesterday although it's a shame you were so close to making it but I'm sure this event proved to be a great learning point for you in the long run, in many ways.
('''(G_G/'''')
dOofuS
Profile Joined January 2009
United States342 Posts
November 16 2010 06:14 GMT
#228
I was refreshing the GSL thread all last night waiting for your results. After listening to SotG, seeing your interviews at MLG and also the videos that Artosis uploaded with your interviews, I wanted more. I decided to watch all of WCG Ultimate Gamer Season 1 to fill the time, and was sad with you when Kelly was eliminated. I really respect you, and regardless of all the random hate, I hope you know there are those of us that really cheer for you.

I'm excited for your progress, and am cheering for you all the way!
Neverclutch
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3 Posts
November 16 2010 06:29 GMT
#229
I can only imagine how it felt to wait for 2 hours as the player as i was anxiously waiting 3hours for the results (i really wanted to see you get into ro64).

Nevertheless i think it is fantastic that you got to go there and do better than a lot of 'haters' thought you were and i know that next time you go out (if you do) you'll get into ro64 and then more people will see how well you play.

Thanks for all the updates and for giving us some insight into your journey over to GSL. Best of luck and look forward to seeing more of your play soon!
wxwx
Profile Joined May 2010
527 Posts
November 16 2010 06:32 GMT
#230
On November 16 2010 01:04 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Today ends my GSL 3 qualifying run.

Some thoughts: The maps are Xel'Naga , Metal , Scrap station. That is the order win or lose. I went in thinking "well at least I have metal each series to fall back on." Xel is a bit of a toss up either extremely straight up or that is where some of the gimmick occurs. I also KNEW I didn't want to go into a game 3 vs a zerg with scrap being the deciding map. Koreans notoriously view that map as an EZPZ ZvX map and I tend to agree. You have to respect the muta there and virtually any other opening is just as strong if not stronger with the destructible rock entrance into your natural. That and the extended open middle and you have a tough ass time as a P. That is why at MLG you saw TT1 and other p's going 3 gate expand into a 5-6 gate timing with virtually no plan for late middle or late game... you have to end it there.

Round 1: I was nervous. I didn't want to be. I pride myself on my experience and count on that to carry me through LAN play. That wasn't the case. Traveling so far.. having so many people counting on me and playing in a new environment against foreign opponents made my nerves shot. I got a P the first round that nobody recognized and he scared the SHIT out of me. First game he 4 gate all ins and after I miss 2 FF's while going 3 gate robo I nearly shat myself. Pulling probes and hero microing for my life was the name of the day. Meanwhile I had proxied a pylon near his ramp and was able to make the daring decision to spend 2 of my warp ins on zeals to go for his mineral line. Fortunately that with a few correct FF's and a couple Immortals lead to me securing my ramp and minimizing his mining with a bunch of probe kills and then mining time missed. After that I rolled him and took a big deep breath as I had survived my own nerves.

Game 2 we got cross position on metal and it had me overthinking.. does he macro here or try the same thing? All the while I have been playing this ladder (1.5 days) the koreans HATE standard PvP opting for 4 gate variations. So I played it safe and did the same build. He 4 gated and after I thwarted it pretty hard I decided to head to his base knowing he was blink stalkering. With 2 no range collo and gate way units I got smashed by a ton of charge lots with his blink stalkers but he had no expo and I fell back on mine.. massed up and rolled. 2-0

Round 2: Another Protoss. By now I am calming down and getting my shit together. First game was standard collo v collo but I had faster +1 and a faster 3rd which he attacked into and defending collo vs aggressive collo is good for the defender. So I steam rolled and won.

Game 2 he 4 gated into my good micro+units and was gg'd in 8 or so minutes.

Round 3 The shit thing here is after round 2 they moved me and said I had to wait. I waited 2 hours. I hate waiting... most competitors will tell you they want to play and GET IT OVER. I am not blaming this but it sucked.. was impossible to keep my cool while sitting there thinking I am 1 bo3 away from making history. "

I checked TL and saw that my opponent was indeed a high ranked korean Z. I had the korean Z's pretty well figured out in my day point 5 of laddering.... THEY CAN'T PLAY PASSIVE. It is roach ling aggression 10000000000% and I knew that. So game 1 IdrA suggests I try the 36 probe 5 gate timing that nony had been doing. First time trying it and I slaughtered him in the open field when he was taking his gold but instead of rallying or backing off I pushed forward and got swarmed with no FF's to cover me. Bad decision and doing an unpracticed build cost me the game. Same game a week later and I win 100%

Game 2 on metal was the best game I have played in SC2. I am resting my hat on this game. Cross position metal and I tried a 4 gate with meticulous Pylon chaining down to his side. He ends up ambushing 2-3 sentry and 2-3 zeals and raping with speed ling. I retreat to my expo and he pushes the matter where I execute nearly perfect cannons and hold at my nexus. He STREAMS a bajillion roaches/lings and I barely hold. Thought the game was over but we scrap battle it out and I eventually stabilize. I robo -> obs -> immortal and about that time he returns with aggression. I barely hold again and obs sees he has taken his 3rd (FUCK). So I slap down a second robo and start going collo. After I get 1 collo out start my 2nd and have range going he shows up with 9-10 muta. THis is literally the worst feeling as a P. I had 100% predicted (nearly blindly) that it was pure roach/ling macro/aggression but double robo vs muta ling is death. I sit on 2 collo and pump upgrades / stalkers as I take my 3rd. Each moment of this game is battle battle FF survival and 9-10 P units in yellow health standing on the blue goo of their fallen comrades. Z is making me earn each and every yard I get this game. Eventually I get 3 collo and a decent army so I push out towards his 3rd. He ends up killing my 3rd while I kill his and instead of me trying to end the game I retreated and reinforced. He decided to try and intercept and with the final battle I cut his army into 3rds and reinforced with 4 dt's vs an overseerless army. WHEW I won.

I could do it...

Game 3 I am having thoughts leak into my head that despite going 0-1 vs a top korean Zerg I might pull this out. That game lifted my spirits. Scrap is hard but I can do this. I go 3 gate expand and everything is going "OK" but then I decide "lets fucking DT 4 gate timing him" so I through down the twilight council and just then he slow over scouts and sees it... Ihave to cancel and revert back to 3 gate expand but at this point I have slowed my self down. Everything from there is sad times. I get a decent sentry force and start my expo saturation when I notice he is crumbling the middle rocks with an impossible number of roaches and lings. I try and sever his army in half with good FF's but he just runs past into my main after that his roaches engage my now sentry heavy army and dice it up. I start to realize I had lost and the depression sets in.. GG, I'm out.

After match thoughts: I had only been in korea 1.5 days and with a few misscommunications with Hwanni (we were supposed to train with guemchi, puma and upmagic) as well as having to play on a laptop because IdrA forgot the monitor connecting chord in Arizona I had still done impressively well on the korean ladder. I laddered on IdrA's account and took out 2700+ pro gamers... like Amoeba[S.G] and GanZi. I was crushing PvP, doing well PvZ and getting PvT. I feel like the korean play style is VERY different but incredibly similar across the board so easier to figure out and start to adapt. NA/EU players all vary their play so it's harder to read them as a style/player but easier to out play mechanically.

Being able to sit and spend each day with IdrA discussing strategy is so incredibly invaluable I cannot even begin to describe the growth. I feel like my ability and potential in this game has doubled. I really do feel this trip was the best thing I could do for my future in SC2 and I don't regret a moment of this. I am sad that I do not have the added bonus of an exciting round of 64 to look to but you know what? I came over here on a dream and I sat with a tough group and came 1 fucking game away from doing what Inca, Guemchi, Sangho and other great P's could not: qualify.

I am going to stay here for another week and go home after greg plays in his round of 64 next week. In that time I am going to practice, learn, make connections and continue to plot my development as a SC2 progamer. I know I can do it and this trip has done nothing but make that an absolute fact for me.

Students: I will schedule our sessions the week I get back but not before just because I will probably need a day off due to the travel but also I am not entirely sure when I will get back since greg still has to qualify and then get scheduled for a ro64.

Everyone else: Huge thanks to those that supported me and said I could make it. Bottom line is in this past month I have been 1 game away from a top 8 MLG and 1 game away from the ro64 GSL. Like it or not I am a top non-korean and as I continue to learn/develop I will start producing the results that make that an absolute reality. Winning ladder matches and doing well in practice won't get me there.. I realize that. But stick around, there are few as motivated and equipped as I am. I will do everything I can to be the best and while I do that I want to raise this community up and represent everyone as best I can. Hopefully the supporters can help me make that true! The haters can try and have an open-mind.. I'd love to see a community that backs it's people instead of tries and holds them down.

I will watch this blog and try and answer q's as much as possible
<3

GET SOME


Thanks for the write up, pretty insightful. Props for going for your dream, GL in future.

Some questions: What's the general BO for that 36 probe NonY thing?
Also it seems you like using DT's vs zerg, what would you think their prime use is?

Thanks!
Icarus84
Profile Joined August 2010
32 Posts
November 16 2010 07:21 GMT
#231
incontrol I know you're gonna make us foreigners proud in the future! You seem like an extremely dedicated individual, you stay with it and you know it's only a matter of time until you're handing out advice to the next hopeful superstar in his first Korean tourney, just like idra did for you.

I can't wait to watch you grow as an SC2 pro! Awesome writeup and best of luck my friend!

P.S. I need more interview videos of you, you're goddamn hillarious
shinwa
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden225 Posts
November 16 2010 07:35 GMT
#232
Looking forward to the results of your reflections. I know you have it in you, iNcontroL!
Optimism
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom28 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 08:01:35
November 16 2010 08:00 GMT
#233
Wow, great post, very good to read. Just wanted to say good luck, and you're right - you didn't qualify, but the fact you came so close with so little time to practise and against such good opposition should give you huge confidence. I'll be pulling for you next time!
Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
November 16 2010 08:11 GMT
#234
GL to you man. I'm eagerly awaiting the next SoTG. I started watching it because of you
I'm not that familiar with NA scene becuase I only see big tournaments but I've always been your fan (you as a person). Now after watching you duke it out with Koreans and see your thourght proceses I'm your fan as a player. I'll be rooting for you on all tournaments.

Hopefuly we'll see more of you in Korea. <3
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
November 16 2010 08:26 GMT
#235
Rather impressive incontrol. I'm glad to see that you went that far, I'm sure it was very tough. In my eyes I've gained more respect for you as a player, and I will support you in the next GSL event.
Keep improving.
Wishing you well.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 08:36:30
November 16 2010 08:32 GMT
#236
On November 16 2010 09:46 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
From the bottom of my heart: Thanks. This blog has actually helped make me feel GOOD. I am so lucky to have a community like yourselves surrounding me.. thanks.

A lot have asked what my plans are in regard to korea. I am most certainly coming back out. Most likely for 3 months but it could be longer and it could be shorter. It is hard cause I do have (as you guys know) an amazing girlfriend of which I am very serious with so 3 months is nothing to sneeze at. She knows this is my passion and this is the biggest scene to grow in so she supports but that doesn't mean it's easy. In any case there is stuff to discuss with her whether or not she'd visit, move out or w/e. Tough to say from here but we will see!

<3


Dude just get her to learn some Korean and get her with an agent on Korean TV shows, this is like, so common and easy for nice looking foreigners to do and she seems like a crowd person.

If she's in the beauty / miss contest things in USA this could be an auto free pass for such shows. She really only needs to study a little Korean and this pays actually pretty good if viewers like you.

Didn't she make an SC cake or something at some point ? Any talent over there is valued like it makes you a rockstar. Koreans seem to just love to worship things in general..
WeeKeong
Profile Joined October 2010
United States282 Posts
November 16 2010 09:36 GMT
#237
Good luck in the future!!! You should definitely try and get GOM to let you be a guest commentator one day during the GSL, it would be EPIC!
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
November 16 2010 09:43 GMT
#238
Anyway, do you know how can you participate in GSL 2011. It says that GSL 2011 is for S class and A class only ( top 96). Is there a way to get into that? or do you have to wait for 2012 or something.

There are other various bnet based tournaments but those are not GSL i think ( although still Gom produced)
Xeteh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States589 Posts
November 16 2010 10:19 GMT
#239
Awesome post, iNcontroL. There's a good chance if I've laughed at something SC related in the last few months it probably came from you or Day9 so I was really hoping you'd make it. I'm glad that you found the experience to still be extremely worthwhile and I hope you keep at it. Best of luck.
NYXinc
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany74 Posts
November 16 2010 11:52 GMT
#240
Thank you for this post I like how harsh you are with yourself, I just hope that you will soon be able to eliminate the weaknesses you yourself say to have and I would love to see you dominate one of the upcoming events. Btw I love your comments on TL, your Part in State of the game and all the other appearances. I am a big fan of watching your interviews (the one you give and make) I think they are very precise and entertaining.
Will keep following you in the future
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