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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
October 02 2010 00:06 GMT
#1
Seriously. If they can make something like this and sell it for around (say) 500~1000 dollars, I am there.

A while ago there was the fad known as the iPad. Nowadays it seemed that many different companies are following suit for a keyboardless mobile device with a touchscreen.

I have used touchscreens before. They are kind of fancy when you first use them as the interactions is a lot different from, say, using mouse and keyboard. But I also found touchscreens annoying because:

1) it's not accurate.
2) if my fingers are dirty I'll soil the screen

So in my opinion, it's a rather poor replacement pointing-device to the mouse, except it does not require any extra components like a mouse (thus more mobile).

Anyways, I don't give a shit about touchscreen. But that's not what this rant is about.

What I truly want, is something similar to an iPad or the upcoming tablets, but with a pen input with active digitizer and pressure sensitivity - making it suitable for writing on the screen. Of course, the pen itself is an extra component, but it is not very big or heavy and the tablet can probably have a holder for the pen.

I find electronic paper very useful. I take a lot of notes on physical paper, but I often lose them because either

1) they take a lot of space so I have to keep throwing things out year after year (I throw out two boxes of paper very year from the notes and assignments I write as well as handouts); it's hard to carry.
2) mechanical damage of paper (e.g. while in a binder).
3) hard to organize.

Also, with a tablet I can (hopefully) also view research papers, textbooks and other (pdf) files on it and write comments directly on the files instead of printing them out then lose them 3 days later.

Of course, currently there are such products out there. They are tablet PCs. They do exactly what I mentioned above (I own a HP tx2500), but it's very noisy, very hot, starts too slowly, TOO HEAVY, TOO BIG - basically, way too powerful for what I want to do - I just want the following:

1) good pen input (e.g. wacom) with digitizer and pressure sensitivity;
2) be able to read and write pdf files and export them to a computer;
3) be able to save and export my handwritten things;
4) reasonable light-weight;
5) no noises (say, no fans for cooling AND it does not catch fire or blow up).
6) I don't give a damn about internet, flash, youtube, stupid touchscreen iPad games, gravity sensitivity (for flipping the screen based on the way it is held), etc.

Maybe I am asking for too much as the current technologies cannot support these things right now. If it is available, I am there.

:]
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 00:23:54
October 02 2010 00:09 GMT
#2
What about a touch screen laptop?

Ah, sorry, must have missed the tablet part :l
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
October 02 2010 00:10 GMT
#3
On October 02 2010 09:09 whitelynx wrote:
What about a touch screen laptop?


I have one.

It's too noisy, too big, too heavy, too powerful.
:]
exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
October 02 2010 00:20 GMT
#4
What about using what you have till it gets broke?
And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
October 02 2010 00:35 GMT
#5
On October 02 2010 09:20 exeexe wrote:
What about using what you have till it gets broke?


It kind of broke already. I spent 200 dollars fixing it, after my dad's advice. But now I just put it in a corner in case I need mobile computing...
:]
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 01:33:30
October 02 2010 01:29 GMT
#6
On October 02 2010 09:10 illu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 09:09 whitelynx wrote:
What about a touch screen laptop?


I have one.

It's too noisy, too big, too heavy, too powerful.

Then get a laptop that's less big, less heavy, less powerful.

edit: Srs advice btw I have a mini laptop and it has helped me a lot in classes. They're quite cheap as well.

edit2: actually for physics classes I can see why you'd want to write by hand nvm me.
susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 01:43:46
October 02 2010 01:42 GMT
#7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220661

tablet eee pc. small, light, and multitouch with stylus

solid state hard drive so no clunky loud HD
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 01:52:37
October 02 2010 01:48 GMT
#8
On October 02 2010 10:29 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 09:10 illu wrote:
On October 02 2010 09:09 whitelynx wrote:
What about a touch screen laptop?


I have one.

It's too noisy, too big, too heavy, too powerful.

Then get a laptop that's less big, less heavy, less powerful.

edit: Srs advice btw I have a mini laptop and it has helped me a lot in classes. They're quite cheap as well.

edit2: actually for physics classes I can see why you'd want to write by hand nvm me.


It's 13". It's not that big....

I do math and stats. So yea, typing is not good for me.


On October 02 2010 10:42 susySquark wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220661

tablet eee pc. small, light, and multitouch with stylus

solid state hard drive so no clunky loud HD



It doesn't seem to have wacom or any sort of digitizer? When I use my tablet, I always have touch disabled so I always use the digitizer.

Mine is kind of like this one, but with less beef.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834157379

Panel rotates 180° and folds flat. Supports multi-gesture and stylus input through capacitative digitizer technology
:]
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
October 02 2010 02:00 GMT
#9
I type so much faster than I can write or speak, nothing will ever replace a good keyboard imo
ॐ
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
October 02 2010 02:03 GMT
#10
On October 02 2010 11:00 endy wrote:
I type so much faster than I can write or speak, nothing will ever replace a good keyboard imo


It's slow to type mathematical symbols and to draw diagrams, which I often need. I am not an English major, you know.
:]
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
October 02 2010 02:16 GMT
#11
On October 02 2010 09:06 illu wrote:
2) if my fingers are dirty I'll soil the screen


Just to make a note here: using keyboards with dirty fingers is even worse, as the a screen is at least flat and thus easy to clean.. so this point actually supports touch screens in favor of keyboards :p

this point only supports keyboards in the situation where you have like some fat on your fingers which makes slimy lanes all over a touch screen, which you don't see on a keyboard because you don't look at it. So regarding optics, this favors keyboards. Regarding hygiene, it favors touch screens for sure. Have you ever seen a touch screen as dirty as your keyboard probably is? i have not. dirt just jumps the eye faster on a (touch) screen, because you look at it more intensely than on your keyboards keys.
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
October 02 2010 04:00 GMT
#12
On October 02 2010 11:03 illu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 11:00 endy wrote:
I type so much faster than I can write or speak, nothing will ever replace a good keyboard imo


It's slow to type mathematical symbols and to draw diagrams, which I often need. I am not an English major, you know.


Master latex + high wpm!

I'm surprised the ipad doesnt already have some sort of pen accessory. I dont think it would be hard to make at all. Seeing as frigging sausages work on touch screens, I'm sure the bright engineers at apple can make a pen device.
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
October 02 2010 06:26 GMT
#13
On October 02 2010 13:00 ironchef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 11:03 illu wrote:
On October 02 2010 11:00 endy wrote:
I type so much faster than I can write or speak, nothing will ever replace a good keyboard imo


It's slow to type mathematical symbols and to draw diagrams, which I often need. I am not an English major, you know.


Master latex + high wpm!

I'm surprised the ipad doesnt already have some sort of pen accessory. I dont think it would be hard to make at all. Seeing as frigging sausages work on touch screens, I'm sure the bright engineers at apple can make a pen device.


EXACTLY.

If that shit had an active digitizer for writing, I'd buy it for sure. But no. They are so stupid.
:]
Nokarot
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1410 Posts
October 02 2010 06:32 GMT
#14
As an artist, I was extremely pissed that there was no kind of stylus for the iPad. I didn't buy it so no harm no foul, but I'm not going to fingerpaint everything I want to sketch out, let alone use a sausage.

I know some people who love their iPad, but it seems like they'd broaden their demographic quite a bit if they just made a stylus of some variety. I'm sure there are challenges of some variety given their "surface area friction touchscreen technology" or whatever, but it seems like that should have been sorted out long ago.
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