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SC2 Toss is OP?

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AyeH
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States534 Posts
August 20 2010 07:52 GMT
#1
So was playing a custom game against a guy named "Required" on LT on SC2. He is a diamond player that seemed pretty good. I had a really bad start because I really don't know what to do against terran so just went 3 warp -> robo -> 2 stargates. I will admit right now that I am not that good at all since I only played fastest map possible on SC1. However, this guy claims protoss is OP? He also claims he gets paid by "liquid," which I'm assuming is Team Liquid, which is why I am posting this to see if it is actually true...

Here is what he said to me after I talked to him in chat (kinda upset he didn't say GG):

You: lol u play terran and u complain about toss op?
Required has reconnected.
You: roflsauce...
gg anyways
Required: talk to me when u understand this game, i dont get paid by liquid to talk to idiots like u
You: rofl
oh so u get paid by liquid?
really? for what?
u just lost to a guy who doesn't understand the game?
hmmm
Required: see if tournaments when shit matters u would of lost from a push a long time ago
You: u did push
and i stopped u...
u suck too much to be paid...


Also, if you would like to critique my gameplay, I'm all for it. I need the help.

Here is the replay:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ru61bo7qmuo4595


*
Is it in you?
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
August 20 2010 07:57 GMT
#2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=138553

People claim lots of things on the Internet.
Liquipedia
WarChimp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia943 Posts
August 20 2010 07:57 GMT
#3
Nah, Toss ain't OP, just storm... haha but in all seriousness, Toss and Terran is definitely a balanced match up...
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
August 20 2010 07:57 GMT
#4
Tl doesn't pay anyone...even its modders are voluntary
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
August 20 2010 08:02 GMT
#5
Maybe liquid is the name of his mother. TvP is fine, although both sides have a lot to QQ about (OMFG STORM) or (OMFG EMP)
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-20 08:04:16
August 20 2010 08:03 GMT
#6
Yea, there's no money in esports. Just love <3
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
August 20 2010 08:11 GMT
#7
On August 20 2010 17:02 Jugan wrote:
Maybe liquid is the name of his mother. TvP is fine, although both sides have a lot to QQ about (OMFG STORM) or (OMFG EMP)


Exactly this made BW so awesome. QQ Defiler, QQ SV, QQ Storm, reaver etc etc, so many imbalanced things make the game balanced ^^
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
August 20 2010 08:12 GMT
#8
On August 20 2010 17:11 Mortician wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 17:02 Jugan wrote:
Maybe liquid is the name of his mother. TvP is fine, although both sides have a lot to QQ about (OMFG STORM) or (OMFG EMP)


Exactly this made BW so awesome. QQ Defiler, QQ SV, QQ Storm, reaver etc etc, so many imbalanced things make the game balanced ^^

And honestly ppl would bitch about the balance in BW 2 if there was no korean proscene. SC is honestly weirdly balanced
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
August 20 2010 08:16 GMT
#9
Cant wait to see that cheater Dimaga knocked out by whoever he is playing in the IEM

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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
August 20 2010 08:38 GMT
#10
On August 20 2010 16:57 WarChimp wrote:
Nah, Toss ain't OP, just storm... haha but in all seriousness, Toss and Terran is definitely a balanced match up...


not really

marauders are assholes to us too you know
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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
August 20 2010 08:42 GMT
#11
On August 20 2010 16:52 Dr3w wrote:
Required: talk to me when u understand this game, i dont get paid by liquid to talk to idiots like u


Reading this part and then..

On August 20 2010 17:02 Jugan wrote:
Maybe liquid is the name of his mother.


...this part made me laugh haaaaaard!


Nice to hear that people lie about being paid by TL though
We make signature, then defense it.
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
August 20 2010 08:55 GMT
#12
I hope that guy browses TL enough to read this blog
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-20 10:20:10
August 20 2010 10:19 GMT
#13
they guy is using "would of" instead of "would have", thus you win the argument redgardless
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
August 20 2010 12:29 GMT
#14
On August 20 2010 17:55 Kinky wrote:
I hope that guy browses TL enough to read this blog

I'm willing to bet he won't post here if he does
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
August 20 2010 12:45 GMT
#15
You: lol u play terran and u complain about toss op?
Required has reconnected.
You: roflsauce...


Seeing how you wrote these lines, you're about as much of an asshat.
www.teamproperty.net | "You should hate losing, but you should never fear defeat." - 이윤열
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 20 2010 13:00 GMT
#16
On August 20 2010 21:45 gillon wrote:
Show nested quote +
You: lol u play terran and u complain about toss op?
Required has reconnected.
You: roflsauce...


Seeing how you wrote these lines, you're about as much of an asshat.

How? Its not like the OP was playing terran.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
ohaicami
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States103 Posts
August 20 2010 15:02 GMT
#17
On August 20 2010 17:03 Tadzio wrote:
Yea, there's no money in esports. Just love <3


... and a lot of epeen.
Appetitus Rationi Pareat - Cicero (Let your desires be ruled by reason.)
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
August 20 2010 17:36 GMT
#18
On August 20 2010 22:00 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 21:45 gillon wrote:
You: lol u play terran and u complain about toss op?
Required has reconnected.
You: roflsauce...


Seeing how you wrote these lines, you're about as much of an asshat.

How? Its not like the OP was playing terran.


yeah i dont understand what exactly makes him an asshat here
hes saying its hilarious that a terran would say another race is op
which is absolutely true
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AyeH
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States534 Posts
August 20 2010 19:41 GMT
#19
On August 20 2010 21:45 gillon wrote:
Show nested quote +
You: lol u play terran and u complain about toss op?
Required has reconnected.
You: roflsauce...


Seeing how you wrote these lines, you're about as much of an asshat.


Yeah, if you saw the blatant imbalance issues in SC2, you would say the same
Is it in you?
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
August 20 2010 19:47 GMT
#20
There's a lot of people on battle.net that are pretending to be from TL. I played a 4v4 the other day vs a "Kennigit" and a "HotBid". Also their team was all using the black guy as their portrait. After beating them with mass speedlings + some zealots from my teammates I concluded that they can't really be real.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
August 20 2010 19:49 GMT
#21
actually I'm pretty sure that is hotbid and kennigit

lol
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Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-20 20:15:19
August 20 2010 20:15 GMT
#22
On August 21 2010 04:49 FragKrag wrote:
actually I'm pretty sure that is hotbid and kennigit

lol


pretty sure it is too, there's a pic floating on TL of their 4v4 team and the use of all "black guy" portraits. lol
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