On August 13 2010 11:45 Salv wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 13 2010 09:20 Pineapple wrote:
That was some of the most complicated bullshit I have ever read. Let me paste some text from a PUA forum to advance your game a bit so you don't waste many more years romanticising about love:
Women WANT sex. They might even be dying to get sex and in her mind probably fantasizing it (maybe even as far as wishing someone rape her). But mind you when I say rape, I didn't mean violence. People tend to confuse the two (but I have met women who wants violence also!). So you cannot really stereotype women when it comes to sex.
However, they won't show it. Not in this society. Because Women are conformists. They conform. They are not revolutionists. They comply. They do not comply only when they are given a choice.
I guess, biologically women are wired to comply and "fit-in" (you can call it "diplomacy") but men are wired to fight for what they want. If they are presented with something they don't like, biologically wired to fight for it.
But now we live in "civilized" society where there are laws and now women were given a "choice" and men were given no choice (and no fight). Men will be arrested and jailed for being men. So men are now Pussified (apparently a technical term! lol.).
The laws claim that they are giving women a choice but they are making men pussies along the way, so I guess they are actually taking away the women choice really (as far as my brain goes).
No wonder the whole "courting" and "mating" thing between humans are confused. You won't find that in any other species in the animal kingdom.
To illustrate my point, you should see this Spanish movie "The Method".
In this movie, one of the guy basically goes into the women toilet and say he wants to fuck her. She kept telling him she is not attracted to him all the way. And then 5 seconds later, her clothes are off (by herself) and the guy is boning her.
DISCLAIMER: I don't advocate hatred or violence towards women. Just not my thing. (I have to say it just for the record lol).
I'd even say as a rough rule thumb it is typically best to have yourself a half step ahead of where the girl is at (so you're leading), for instance take of your pants before hers.
It is also very very helpful to multitask. Specifically while you're making out with her you escalate further (as you're already both well caught up in the moment, thus perfect timing to move it up another notch). For instance take off her bra with one hand while you're making out with her, giving freer access to her boobs. Or take your pants off while making out, but just use one hand to get your jeans off. Then of course you'll next be fingering her &/or removing her pants. & so on, you just keep on carrying this process on towards sex.
Note: all the while you're keeping another hand moving up and down her body, or on her face or whatever you're doing with it at the time. & of course don't stop making out with her during this if you can. This leads to not just the double approach of making out and escalating at the same time, but also maintaining a high level of kino with the hand (this is all so you don't break state, even if you're quite clueless/drunk one of these things she is sure to be enjoying a lot & thus she won't want to stop ).
You can take this approach even more generally, you do not even have to be making out to use a three pronged attack. You can use your mouth to hit a heap of erogenous zones, lick/nibble/bite/suck at the neck/collar bone/nipples/earlobe (all the while keeping your other two hands busy, with the goal to: maintain state AND escalate further).
I think by now you are all seeing you can generalise this principle even further to a 4+ pronged attack (heh, I played chess a lot as a kid & I keep on thinking of Knights and forks...).
For instance:
1) having your thigh/knee between her legs to rub her pussy
2) biting her neck with your teeth
3) removing her bra with your left hand
4) grabbing her ass with your right hand
The most important point to gain from this once you realise the power of multitasking is to always be experimenting with her as you look for different angles/ways to escalate together. Have fun kids! How the hell did you read the OP and come up with this as a reply, haha? Besides the fact that this is almost irrelevant to what was originally said, all this pick up artist information is bullshit. There are kernels of truth, like being confident, and having friendly body language, but pick up artists take analyzing and theorizing to ridiculous levels. "Men are jailed for being men"? I can only assume you're talking about rape from your previous paragraphs, but raping a women isn't being a man, it's being an asshole.
Well the thing is if we don't stop the OP in his tracks now with his fantasizing then he's going to end up as a pussy when he grows up. The best way to save him is to ingrain him with some bitch management to get his mind on the right track:
Today, at a gas station, i DIDN’T pick up a model.
Some model was pumping gas, so i made some quick blah blah blah.. Then i asked, “Hey do you know how to [insert something ridiculously easy to do]”
Model: that’s kind of rude.
Ok stop.
Now this is where PUA “pickup” systems FAIL miserably. PUA CATERS to the problems that Feminism creates.. Feminism created this bitch who feels ENTITLED to her assumptions. She feels ENTITLED to make assumptions about the intent of my questions. THAT’S “rude”. But Feminism has taught her that it’s OK to shift blame from her shoulders onto mens’ shoulders.. Feminism teaches bitches that MEN are ALWAYS at fault. So of course it’s a “rude” question rather than a rude assumption in her mind. PUA’s don’t address this. This simply offers workaround solutions to the problem, so the problem REMAINS.
Realizing this would go nowhere, i simply reframed and put the blame back onto her shoulders.
Me: it’s rude of you to make assumptions about the intentions of a stranger’s question.
Her: ok we’ll just leave it at that.
Me: it’s okay. You’re a model (smiling).. You’re supposed to be a little retarded, so i forgive you.
Again, i fully control the frame here. And this is my little tribute to that fucking gay movie “Pay It Forward” where one good deed causes a domino effect of future good deeds. In this case, one good man controlling the frame and keeping a bitch in check will cause the same bitch to question her value/worth the next time she talks to a man.
The problem is, most men are pussies and will defer to a bitch and become neurotic around her. This is the type of bitch who you have to walk on egg shells around to avoid offending her. And this is exactly what Bitch Management is designed to put in check. This is a bitch that is damaged goods. She’s damaged by Feminism to believe that men are supposed to tiptoe around her and watch their P’s and Q’s otherwise she won’t validate them.. she’s been taught by pussified men that she can control the frame (i.e. she has authority over them), and she never has cause to question her own actions because others will simply defer and bend to accommodate her behavior, regardless of how self-centered it may be. In this case, PUA methods make men NEUROTIC trying to figure out how to talk to her without offending her. They are ADAPTING to the problem instead of SOLVING IT like Bitch Management does. BM actively addresses the disrespect of bitches. It weeds out the good from the bad. And it keeps the bad ones in check.
after i made the comment about “models being a little retarded” and me forgiving her because of it, in a nonchalant, non-angry tone (showing no emotional investment in the interaction which shows high value on my part), her face went sour. Her expression revealed how angry she was with me.. But this is exactly the “Pay It Forward” plan i had in mind. Because Bitch Management is concerned with ALL MEN. This is intended to be a cumulative effect, just like Feminism is a cumulative effect– it’s not just ONE bitch like this that makes men neurotic.. It’s THOUSANDS of bitches like this in your daily life that make you neurotic and jump thru hoops, hoping to never offend them.. It’s the media and social pressures, it’s your own PUSSIFIED peers who perpetuate this neurotic behavior and make you follow suit.. This is what Bitch Management firmly stands against..
When i sarge, i sarge for EVERY MAN. I show all bitches a DEDICATED PATTERN OF MANHOOD. That way they’ll think twice before they make the same mistake with the next man.. And my goal is to make them realize that THEY ARE THE MISTAKE, not the men who approach them. Their “you have to say what i like otherwise i won’t talk to you” mentality is the problem. I simply expose it– i expose what PUSSIFIED MEN ALLOW. I DON’T allow it. And that’s why i get the responses I WANT. And i reject the responses i don’t want. This ATTITUDE “Pays It Forward”.. One male strongly advocating his manhood sends a clear message to a bitch– “I KNOW YOU’RE A BITCH. YOU’RE NOT FOOLING ANYONE.” women who are told, “NO”, respond much better than women who are told “yes.” because only spoiled children are told “yes” all the time.. Children of character are told “NO” because character is not just a building up of good qualities. It’s more importantly, a shaving down of poor qualities.
In order to build a good building, you need to first tear down the old one.. Then you need to have a proper foundation. And THEN you can worry about actually building it. The same applies to a bitch. In order to train a bitch, you FIRST have to tear down the OLD BITCH. This means undoing all of the damage that feminism has done..This means you’ll be saying a lot of “NO’s” in her direction because she’s used to applying bad behavior/attitude to the situation.. Then you have to build a proper foundation for your bitch. This means taking care of boundaries and bottom lines. This means letting her know your KEY expectations and demands (aka sex other important needs/demands that you want met.) THEN you can worry about building up all her good attributes and features that people see outwardly in her.. INVALIDATE the bad in her, and VALIDATE the good in her. And BE DECISIVE in doing so.. “Shoulds” and “possiblys” and “maybes” are something SHE will offer. YOU need to be DECISIVE and DELIBERATE in what you do.
Wrong way: “honey maybe you should learn to be more accommodating of my friends?”
Right way: “honey. Could you possibly SHUT THE FUCK UP. These are my friends. If you don’t like them, you can get the fuck out. And leave the starburst in your pocket by the door because they’re mine.”
The point is not to emulate what I’m saying word for word..And yes you can be more euphemistic if you want. You don’t have to say “fuck” if you don’t want to .. I’m exaggerating to make a point. The POINT is: BE DEFINITE. BE DECISIVE. It’s the PRINCIPLE that matters. The method can be tailored to suit your particular style of expression..
And again, because manhood is attractive to bitches in general, i have OPTIONS. I do not have to bow down to some dumb model bitch who wants me to walk on egg shells around her. I can stand up for myself and maintain my integrity, my manhood. This is what she’s not used to encountering; men of principle. At Bitch Management, we teach you to weed out women like this.. Because, let’s say, by some means, i was able to salvage the situation, get her number and ended up dating her.. Most men would see that as a success. But what most men don’t realize is that the problem didn’t go away– I’m STILL going to have to deal with her wanting me to walk on egg shells around her. Just because i don’t offend her with that question, doesn’t mean i won’t offend her with another statement or behavior.. Because as long as i allow bitches to control the frame, they effectively get to control the INTENT behind anything i do.. THEY get to define what is and isn’t rude FOR me. so I’d be wasting untold amounts of time and energy (not to mention neurotic frustration) trying to jump thru hoops just to please her when i could just as easily spend my time more wisely giving my attention to bitches who DO RESPOND to my frame.. For every model, there are 10 other girls who are just as hot who WILL respond to my frame. Why should i waste my time and energy on some bitch damaged by Feminism when i have more willing options who are not suffering the same damage.
I don’t need to worry about A2, stage 5, row 7 of the pickup handbook like most PUA’s do.. I simply control the frame of interaction..In shorthand, i have authority over the bitches i Game. This means MY NEEDS AND EXPECTATIONS GET MET FIRST. I get sex WHEN I WANT IT, ON MY SCHEDULE. I get things done WHEN I WANT THEM DONE, NOT ON HER SCHEDULE. This is the heart of Bitch Management. You guys need to take note. I can worry about the principle of reciprocation AFTER the bitch learns to respect my authority over her. THEN i can worry about taking care of meeting her needs.
….so today i DIDN’T pick up a model at a gas station.
And today i proved, once again, that Bitch Management will save you the trouble of having to learn countless bullshit PUA approach lines to memorize.. Learning the principles of manhood will make you attractive without having to suffer the burden of learning validation-seeking tactics/lines which are characteristic of most PUA “pickup” systems out there today.
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