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mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 06:56:44
August 08 2010 06:56 GMT
#1
I have an embarrassing confession, I've never hit C- rank on ICCup. My winrate has always been good when I'm not cheesing, but it's so easy to lose focus after a series of losses. Now the ladder is tougher than ever, but fewer than 1000 points separate me from glory.

It's going to be a long night. Wish me luck!

***
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
bluefuzz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States112 Posts
August 08 2010 06:58 GMT
#2
Good luck man, just stick with it.
In omnibus requiem quaesivi, et nusquam inveni nisi in angulo cum libro
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
August 08 2010 07:13 GMT
#3
Never give up, never surrender!
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
GrimAngel
Profile Joined September 2008
United States416 Posts
August 08 2010 07:16 GMT
#4
Just keep going at it and you'll be bound to reach it! I wish you luck!
Wan step ahead!
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
August 08 2010 07:17 GMT
#5
I always say I'm c- because i beat my c level practice partners sometimes and i regularly beat c-'s. I only got to 2500 points though.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 07:21:18
August 08 2010 07:20 GMT
#6
On August 08 2010 16:17 RoieTRS wrote:
I always say I'm c- because i beat my c level practice partners sometimes and i regularly beat c-'s. I only got to 2500 points though.
i beat an A- player once, does that make me an A player? as a matter of fact, i have a 100% winrate vs A- players.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
mieda
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States85 Posts
August 08 2010 07:28 GMT
#7
skill > rank.

With that aside, it's still exciting to get a new rank. A reward, a feedback to look forward to. Good luck.
WhoNeedsMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada43 Posts
August 08 2010 07:38 GMT
#8
On August 08 2010 16:13 Jugan wrote:
Never give up, never surrender!


Lol!

On topic, good luck, I just got back to my gaming computer and probably going to massgame on iccup with koreans.. then get to E level :O
Until the day of his death, no man can be sure of his courage.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
August 08 2010 07:39 GMT
#9
Whoo! Go go MMP!
My strategy is to fork people.
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-17 06:51:42
August 08 2010 07:47 GMT
#10
You go for it, the highest rank I ever hit was D lol.

Scratch that I've been playing a lot of bw and I hit D+!
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 08 2010 07:53 GMT
#11
On August 08 2010 16:39 Severedevil wrote:
Whoo! Go go MMP!

Unn, this is so depressing... -_-
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
news
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
892 Posts
August 08 2010 07:55 GMT
#12
On August 08 2010 16:28 mieda wrote:
skill > rank.

With that aside, it's still exciting to get a new rank. A reward, a feedback to look forward to. Good luck.


ultimately your rank is a fair representation of your skill, unless you were abusing. So no, rank = skill
"Althought it sounds sexism, and probably is, given the right context, we cannot classify the statement itself as a sexist statement by itself," - evanthebouncy!
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
August 08 2010 07:56 GMT
#13
On August 08 2010 16:53 mmp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 16:39 Severedevil wrote:
Whoo! Go go MMP!

Unn, this is so depressing... -_-



Korean hours are hard.
My strategy is to fork people.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 07:57:56
August 08 2010 07:57 GMT
#14
i just started playing on iccup after a year. so far I have played a grand total of 2 games.

first game was a tvt and because i haven't played any matchup except tvp (because my school only has toss noobs) for about a year, i put up a good fight but ultimately lost.

second game was a tvz where i knew a 6 pool was coming, put down a bunker and pumped rines but choked and still lost my barracks and then all my marines when i took them out to shoot at lings harassing at buildings outside the bunker range

you go for it man, don't let any cheeser ruin your goal
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
August 08 2010 08:04 GMT
#15
Actually... I never got to C- either, looks like we`re having similar goals this season.
"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 08 2010 08:56 GMT
#16
I think I have one win among many losses.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 08 2010 09:11 GMT
#17
I got to D+ then failed.
That being said, you can definitely do it. Keep trying.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
ahleezay
Profile Joined July 2009
43 Posts
August 08 2010 09:21 GMT
#18
good luck. i can get to c- with decent stats but im like afraid of playing past c- lol
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
August 08 2010 09:26 GMT
#19
well getting to c- ain't hard if you play in 12 hours

right now there are mostly koreans and they are much better than your average non-korean guy
with zapperlot i only play koreans: hardly D+, less than 50% winrate
with my other account i play everyone, C without problems

DAMN YOU SOUTH KOREA
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66359 Posts
August 08 2010 10:16 GMT
#20
getting to C- now is hard as fuck, all that's left on iccup are koreans -_______-

glad to see people still playing bw though
POGGERS
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 10:40:46
August 08 2010 10:35 GMT
#21
I'm on a two Korean win streak

just one more game... + Show Spoiler +
and then I'll be back to D+ ... :p
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 08 2010 11:28 GMT
#22
woot, a little bbs and I'm back up to D+
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 08 2010 12:00 GMT
#23
ahhh. only at 2100... so many good players
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 08 2010 12:23 GMT
#24
back down to D again
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5808 Posts
August 08 2010 12:33 GMT
#25
This is my goal too!!!! :D

Currently floating around 2000-2200, playing everyone (8 Koreans out of last 25 games, all losses ;p, but I've beaten couple this season :D).

What's the best way to get better fast? I'm trying to play as many strong opponents as possible. 4 C- opponents in the last 13 games (one of them is a whooping 55-9 C+ right now O_o), and several "D+" player with best ranks of anywhere from C- to B+ (I actually managed to survive over 20 minutes vs. a Korean who was 75-30 B rank last season, I'm really proud of myself ;p).

Lately I'm trying to follow the advice from "How to improve" and couple Liquipedia articles (analyzing games, learning one solid BO per MU, etc.). I'm having a hard time staying focused for longer than 2-4 games against challenging opponents and keeping my motivation for the remainder of the day after I get bashed once or twice. Though I'm seeing myself improve.

Any tips for a D+ player?

BTW, it isn't just me, right? This season seems much harder than the last one. Last season I managed to go 12-5 D+ after a LONG (probably over a year with couple of games with friends every couple of months) with ease. Now I'm in the best shape I've ever been, and I'm struggling to maintain a 40% winning record. ;o
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9535 Posts
August 08 2010 12:58 GMT
#26
Here's my opinion on what you should do to get better.

Besides all those things that Liquipedia offers you, find yourself few reliable and friendly people who are roughly on the same rank as you (maybe even a higher rank than you).
Then, you just mass game with them! Ob, play, whatch replays, whatever, just hang around in games together, analyzing mistakes of others while obing, try not to do them yourself while playing etc.

But seriously, it's so much easier to get better when you're practicing with someone you're comfortable with, rather than someone unknown where you have that "intimidating" factor that influences your play in a way it shouldn't. And not to mention it's infinitely more fun to practice this way as opposed to mindlessly grind through the ladder like it's your job. Always keep in mind, that this is a game and you're supposed to have fun while playing it.

Cheers!
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
August 08 2010 12:59 GMT
#27
two weeks ago I got to 2950 points and then went on a fifteen game losing streak. ;_; May you have better luck than I did
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 13:32:51
August 08 2010 13:02 GMT
#28
On August 08 2010 21:58 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Here's my opinion on what you should do to get better.

Besides all those things that Liquipedia offers you, find yourself few reliable and friendly people who are roughly on the same rank as you (maybe even a higher rank than you).
Then, you just mass game with them! Ob, play, whatch replays, whatever, just hang around in games together, analyzing mistakes of others while obing, try not to do them yourself while playing etc.

But seriously, it's so much easier to get better when you're practicing with someone you're comfortable with, rather than someone unknown where you have that "intimidating" factor that influences your play in a way it shouldn't. And not to mention it's infinitely more fun to practice this way as opposed to mindlessly grind through the ladder like it's your job. Always keep in mind, that this is a game and you're supposed to have fun while playing it.

Cheers!

I know what I'm doing -_- . The problem is I'm facing B- players at D+. Dying to vastly superior mechanics.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9535 Posts
August 08 2010 13:44 GMT
#29
I was actually replying to a post above mine -.-
Should've used quote ^^
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 08 2010 14:17 GMT
#30
my bad. I think I'm gonna have to call it a night. I'm dead even where I started..!!!!!
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 14:20:38
August 08 2010 14:18 GMT
#31
On August 08 2010 16:20 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 16:17 RoieTRS wrote:
I always say I'm c- because i beat my c level practice partners sometimes and i regularly beat c-'s. I only got to 2500 points though.
i beat an A- player once, does that make me an A player? as a matter of fact, i have a 100% winrate vs A- players.

Once = Regularly?
I sense a disconnection between your post and his.

Maybe you should try again in non-korean hours.
Altair
Profile Joined August 2009
243 Posts
August 08 2010 14:33 GMT
#32
On August 08 2010 16:13 Jugan wrote:
Never pull the plug, never gg !

lol much better now xD
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
August 08 2010 14:34 GMT
#33
I've been playing a lot recently again and it's so weird... I had the hardest time getting out of D but once I reached D+ it became so much easier and I've lost one game on the way to C-. I dunno whether it's because my hands loosened up and I've been able to play better again or because I've been playing with a bunch of smurfs at D.

mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 08 2010 15:01 GMT
#34
soooooo tired.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 08 2010 15:01 GMT
#35
maybe I should play when Koreans are asleep...
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 08 2010 15:02 GMT
#36
On August 08 2010 21:59 Vanka wrote:
two weeks ago I got to 2950 points and then went on a fifteen game losing streak. ;_; May you have better luck than I did

I had a 7-game loss streak before getting back up to d+.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 08 2010 15:03 GMT
#37
i need food
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
Fallen33
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States596 Posts
August 08 2010 15:33 GMT
#38
God bless
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 17 2010 06:42 GMT
#39
Ok. Time for round #2. I'm still sitting just above 2000.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 17 2010 08:43 GMT
#40
i'm up +1 point... -_-
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 17 2010 09:19 GMT
#41
i think i just played a drunk korean. he had good macro, but made scouts...
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
August 17 2010 10:03 GMT
#42
hahahaha good luck

meanwhile i have yet to hit about 1500 T_T
Writer
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 17 2010 10:04 GMT
#43
5rax is so handy
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
Archaeo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States397 Posts
August 17 2010 10:09 GMT
#44
I had the same goal this season and I did it! If you want, I can help you practice.
Yo my chingu!!!
commiboi
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States74 Posts
August 17 2010 14:30 GMT
#45
Whats your aka? Maybe we can practice and help each other improve ^^.
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 17 2010 15:11 GMT
#46
On August 17 2010 23:30 commiboi wrote:
Whats your aka? Maybe we can practice and help each other improve ^^.

TerranTula, maybe we can practice and I'll take some of ur precious points. :p
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 25 2010 15:28 GMT
#47
2500
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
Finskie
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden412 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-25 16:08:51
August 25 2010 16:06 GMT
#48
i just 5pooled a progamer friend. he was sad T_T
Violet.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
August 25 2010 17:05 GMT
#49
I decided to go for C- yesterday 1600 so far
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 25 2010 17:15 GMT
#50
On August 26 2010 02:05 Mortician wrote:
I decided to go for C- yesterday 1600 so far

gl with that.

I think I have my gameplay well understood.

30% vP: Most confident matchup, but imba as fuck.
36% vZ: insta-die to mass lings into fast mutas. Otherwise ez pz SK Terran victory. Mech is bad, don't mech.
48% vT: what can I say, 5rax is too good. Easy macro win if I don't insta-die to 2port wraith. Greedy FE is bad, don't be greedy.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
August 25 2010 22:41 GMT
#51
Nice, good luck man!
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
Never.Die
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan189 Posts
August 25 2010 22:53 GMT
#52
This is making me want to join you in your quest since I can't play SC2 because of my crappy comp ;_;
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 25 2010 22:54 GMT
#53
goodluck man
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
August 25 2010 23:27 GMT
#54
Doesn't korea have a 2 hour time where the internet is shut down or something? (I remember hearing that at one point) If that actually exists you should find the time equivalent in your timezone and only play during those hours :D

(Not serious, but the idea of doing that is funny)
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
August 26 2010 00:45 GMT
#55
On August 26 2010 02:15 mmp wrote:
48% vT: what can I say, 5rax is too good. Easy macro win if I don't insta-die to 2port wraith. Greedy FE is bad, don't be greedy.


what???
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 26 2010 00:47 GMT
#56
do what i did and play only pvt on andro and 12 nex every game
RIP Aaliyah
zergnewb
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States816 Posts
August 26 2010 01:05 GMT
#57
On August 17 2010 19:03 ]343[ wrote:
hahahaha good luck

meanwhile i have yet to hit about 1500 T_T

Good luck, and yeah I hit 1200 ONCE and it was because this D- decided to join my D game and I played him..
Welcome to the Durst-Zone
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
August 26 2010 03:30 GMT
#58
On August 26 2010 08:27 Najda wrote:
Doesn't korea have a 2 hour time where the internet is shut down or something? (I remember hearing that at one point) If that actually exists you should find the time equivalent in your timezone and only play during those hours :D

(Not serious, but the idea of doing that is funny)

I think that's only for minors.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-26 03:37:26
August 26 2010 03:37 GMT
#59
I hit 2200 D+ twice...

too lazy to hit D+ again -.- too many smurfers having 250+ APM.. really

good luck though! maybe I can help you practice? (even though I'm bad)

edit - i /resetstats frequently so o:
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
August 26 2010 09:23 GMT
#60
So what happened to this ?
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 28 2010 19:59 GMT
#61
Finally did it. Started a new account to test my bio TvP and won an easy 18-9.

C-!!!!
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
August 28 2010 20:00 GMT
#62
Congrats dude. I just got my yellow the other day!
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alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
August 28 2010 20:01 GMT
#63
Oh yeah.. TERRAN 4 LIFE
www.brainyweb.ca //web stuff!
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
August 28 2010 20:36 GMT
#64
Is the ladder really harder now? I mean, logic suggests that it should be; however, when I play I usually see the same dirty noobs that have always littered the D to C- ranks...
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
August 28 2010 20:59 GMT
#65
On August 29 2010 05:36 meathook wrote:
Is the ladder really harder now? I mean, logic suggests that it should be; however, when I play I usually see the same dirty noobs that have always littered the D to C- ranks...


It's almost the same. It might be a tad bit harder as I face more knowledgeable opponents and bored korean smurfs but there are piss poor nubs as well.
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infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 21:19:38
August 28 2010 21:17 GMT
#66
You 5rax in TvT?

Edit: I thought this meant getting 5 rax haha, not rax on 5 supply
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