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WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
August 07 2010 13:45 GMT
#21
On August 07 2010 22:21 Duckvillelol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 22:00 OneFierceZealot wrote:
haha i have one right now. its been a nightmare, but hes finally moving out soon. gl with yours.


Ummm... wut? Bit harsh? What has he done wrong?

i have constantly told him that he is not to bring friends over night. this is my place i own with my sister and i dont want him having loud gay sex, which forces me to sleep downstairs. plus hes always drunk. in fact i let him be my roommate in the first place cause he was low on cash and we have cheap rent so i was being nice. now its time to move on.
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
August 07 2010 13:55 GMT
#22
Ok, you dont want an extra stranger in your house... But from your post it seems you're more concerned about them sleeping together, defiling your friends bed... Why would you confront him about if the friend is really gay? Does that make a difference?

Sure you can and should kick him out if this makes you annoyed, but you do come across as a sexually insecure douche
If you have to ask, you don't know.
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 13:59:51
August 07 2010 13:59 GMT
#23
On August 07 2010 20:39 Barfboy wrote:

I have a very good feeling that the friend is his boyfriend, although i am not 100% sure, more like 90%, as they do spend pretty much 24/7 with each other. My real roommate also has no idea that his friend has another friend sleeping on his bed every night, when they are supposed to be close friends. I really am not feeling comfortable with the two of them sleeping in the same bed every night, and the fact that the friend has been over for so many nights already, as this is not what i signed up for when i agreed to have him live with me for a month.


WTF, this is just homophobic. Once you agree that he can stay it really is none of your business if they sleep together. Of course it's your place and you're free to ask him not to bring his friend over. Just stop deluding yourself about having nothing against gay people.
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Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 14:10:29
August 07 2010 14:03 GMT
#24
On August 07 2010 22:59 hypercube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 20:39 Barfboy wrote:

I have a very good feeling that the friend is his boyfriend, although i am not 100% sure, more like 90%, as they do spend pretty much 24/7 with each other. My real roommate also has no idea that his friend has another friend sleeping on his bed every night, when they are supposed to be close friends. I really am not feeling comfortable with the two of them sleeping in the same bed every night, and the fact that the friend has been over for so many nights already, as this is not what i signed up for when i agreed to have him live with me for a month.


WTF, this is just homophobic. Once you agree that he can stay it really is none of your business if they sleep together. Of course it's your place and you're free to ask him not to bring his friend over. Just stop deluding yourself about having nothing against gay people.

Yeah agreed. You're definitely a little homophobic OP. However ultimately it's your place and your friends friend shouldn't blatantly take advantage of your good nature by having his partner/friend stay for more than 1 night without asking you.

If they were being noisy while having sex - that would be one thing. But simply disapproving of them being in the same bed suggests a fairly high level of discomfort that I would class as homophobia. Note that doesn't mean I'm accusing you of hating gays, but rather that you feel uncomfortable around them or with the idea that men put their penises inside each other.

Good luck with your problem - I'd just be straight and honest with the guy (pun only semi-accidental).

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 07 2010 22:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
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On August 07 2010 22:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I think a lot of straight people seem to have this strange fear that all gay men are hellbent on having sex with THEM and will rape them in their sleep. What he does sexually doesn't affect you or anything other than his own sex life so I don't see how it would apply.

I'd be much more concerned with the fact that he isn't paying rent.

Yeps, that's two distinct questions. The title of the thread wouldn't be the same if it was really about the rent. And it wouldn't be a big deal.

People are scared and unconfortable with gays because it confronts them with their own repressed homosexuality. Which is absolutely normal: human fundamental bisexuality has been discovered more than a hundred years ago.

It explains also why in ancient Greece, where there were no taboo about it, everybody was bisexual.

Actually that's a pretty big claim. I don't think there is universal agreement that humanity is bi-sexual. I'd be tempted to ask what you read that gives you this notion but it's not even a question of sources because many people don't agree with this.

Also the claim that everybody was bisexual in ancient greece I find to be inconsistent with my own reading and study of history.
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
August 07 2010 14:16 GMT
#25
Whether or not he's gay, you have every right to make him leave. Even if you said "hey I'm uncomfortable with your friend sleeping in your bed" they still have to respect your wishes, because it's your house. Your reason could be "I just don't like him" and they would still have to listen to you.

I don't think the world is yet at a level where you're expected to be completely comfortable with gay people, so I wouldn't worry about it. It's headed in that direction, though.
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Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1259 Posts
August 07 2010 14:26 GMT
#26
On August 07 2010 22:45 OneFierceZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 22:21 Duckvillelol wrote:
On August 07 2010 22:00 OneFierceZealot wrote:
haha i have one right now. its been a nightmare, but hes finally moving out soon. gl with yours.


Ummm... wut? Bit harsh? What has he done wrong?

i have constantly told him that he is not to bring friends over night. this is my place i own with my sister and i dont want him having loud gay sex, which forces me to sleep downstairs. plus hes always drunk. in fact i let him be my roommate in the first place cause he was low on cash and we have cheap rent so i was being nice. now its time to move on.


Please define how "Loud gay sex" is in any way worse than "Loud straight sex". Are you tone deaf?

I understand the point the OP is making regarding having someone in the house who ISN'T paying rent yet is staying at the house more than a few nights, but seriously this tone from you OFZ is incredibly homophobic, wheather you realise it or not.

Just for clarity's sake - if your friend was straight, and was bringing home incredibly hot chicks, is that ok?
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Barfboy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada193 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 14:44:37
August 07 2010 14:27 GMT
#27
On August 07 2010 22:59 hypercube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 20:39 Barfboy wrote:

I have a very good feeling that the friend is his boyfriend, although i am not 100% sure, more like 90%, as they do spend pretty much 24/7 with each other. My real roommate also has no idea that his friend has another friend sleeping on his bed every night, when they are supposed to be close friends. I really am not feeling comfortable with the two of them sleeping in the same bed every night, and the fact that the friend has been over for so many nights already, as this is not what i signed up for when i agreed to have him live with me for a month.


WTF, this is just homophobic. Once you agree that he can stay it really is none of your business if they sleep together. Of course it's your place and you're free to ask him not to bring his friend over. Just stop deluding yourself about having nothing against gay people.


To those who say i am a homophobe, i will admit that i do have homophobic tendencies, which is the sad truth, as i was raised that way by my father who is an extreme homophobe, so maybe i did get a bit carried away in my post. The reason i named the thread the way it is, is because the main problem i have is trying to confront him without sounding like i only want the friend out because i do not approve of homosexuality, because I do have a tendency to go overboard and say something out of line.
I do not like being deceived, although i guess it is my fault for not realizing until yesterday that the friend had been staying longer than i had thought, as I always get home when they are both asleep, so i have no idea if someone was in the room with my roommate.
Furthermore, I also do not like him not telling my real roommate that he has a friend using his bed as well, because he had only assumed that one person would be using that bed.

I guess I am just going to have to talk to him later about it, and I am sorry if i came out as a homophobe, because it was not my intention.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
August 07 2010 14:29 GMT
#28
The theme of this blog should be there is a person living in your house for free.

Yet somehow it focuses on him being gay. I don't get it.
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WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
August 07 2010 14:41 GMT
#29
On August 07 2010 23:26 Duckvillelol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 22:45 OneFierceZealot wrote:
On August 07 2010 22:21 Duckvillelol wrote:
On August 07 2010 22:00 OneFierceZealot wrote:
haha i have one right now. its been a nightmare, but hes finally moving out soon. gl with yours.


Ummm... wut? Bit harsh? What has he done wrong?

i have constantly told him that he is not to bring friends over night. this is my place i own with my sister and i dont want him having loud gay sex, which forces me to sleep downstairs. plus hes always drunk. in fact i let him be my roommate in the first place cause he was low on cash and we have cheap rent so i was being nice. now its time to move on.


Please define how "Loud gay sex" is in any way worse than "Loud straight sex". Are you tone deaf?

I understand the point the OP is making regarding having someone in the house who ISN'T paying rent yet is staying at the house more than a few nights, but seriously this tone from you OFZ is incredibly homophobic, wheather you realise it or not.

Just for clarity's sake - if your friend was straight, and was bringing home incredibly hot chicks, is that ok?
yeah. that would still be annoying as fuck. (gay or straight) i want to sleep.
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
August 07 2010 14:46 GMT
#30
On August 07 2010 23:03 Subversive wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On August 07 2010 22:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 22:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I think a lot of straight people seem to have this strange fear that all gay men are hellbent on having sex with THEM and will rape them in their sleep. What he does sexually doesn't affect you or anything other than his own sex life so I don't see how it would apply.

I'd be much more concerned with the fact that he isn't paying rent.

Yeps, that's two distinct questions. The title of the thread wouldn't be the same if it was really about the rent. And it wouldn't be a big deal.

People are scared and unconfortable with gays because it confronts them with their own repressed homosexuality. Which is absolutely normal: human fundamental bisexuality has been discovered more than a hundred years ago.

It explains also why in ancient Greece, where there were no taboo about it, everybody was bisexual.

Actually that's a pretty big claim. I don't think there is universal agreement that humanity is bi-sexual. I'd be tempted to ask what you read that gives you this notion but it's not even a question of sources because many people don't agree with this.

Also the claim that everybody was bisexual in ancient greece I find to be inconsistent with my own reading and study of history.

Everyones bisexual to an extent... I'd think pretty much everyone could enjoy getting a blowjob from a member of the same sex, wouldn't you agree? Even if they'd prefer something else a bit more.

Bisexual doesn't mean that sex makes zero difference, it just varies how much different people prefer one or the other.
If you have to ask, you don't know.
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
August 07 2010 14:50 GMT
#31
On August 07 2010 20:52 Manifesto7 wrote:
even though it is my place and i deserve to know what is happening under my roof.

End of story. Just tell the guy that having a third person live with you is not acceptable. One night is fine, anything more is not. It isn't rude, it is your home. The gay dude should understand the place is being rented for two people not three. Even if the third person was paying rent (I assume he isn't and the gay guy is) that is not what you want for your living situation.

This doesn't have to be confrontational, just talk to him.


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WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
August 07 2010 14:54 GMT
#32
On August 07 2010 23:46 JohannesH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 23:03 Subversive wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On August 07 2010 22:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 22:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I think a lot of straight people seem to have this strange fear that all gay men are hellbent on having sex with THEM and will rape them in their sleep. What he does sexually doesn't affect you or anything other than his own sex life so I don't see how it would apply.

I'd be much more concerned with the fact that he isn't paying rent.

Yeps, that's two distinct questions. The title of the thread wouldn't be the same if it was really about the rent. And it wouldn't be a big deal.

People are scared and unconfortable with gays because it confronts them with their own repressed homosexuality. Which is absolutely normal: human fundamental bisexuality has been discovered more than a hundred years ago.

It explains also why in ancient Greece, where there were no taboo about it, everybody was bisexual.

Actually that's a pretty big claim. I don't think there is universal agreement that humanity is bi-sexual. I'd be tempted to ask what you read that gives you this notion but it's not even a question of sources because many people don't agree with this.

Also the claim that everybody was bisexual in ancient greece I find to be inconsistent with my own reading and study of history.

Everyones bisexual to an extent... I'd think pretty much everyone could enjoy getting a blowjob from a member of the same sex, wouldn't you agree? Even if they'd prefer something else a bit more.

Bisexual doesn't mean that sex makes zero difference, it just varies how much different people prefer one or the other.

... based on what? a poll in san francisco? /// using your blowjob example... so your saying that you would enjoy getting a blow job from a dog? because i mean its pretty much the same thing. thats attractive to you? /// believe it or not there are people who are actually straight.
Floophead_III
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 07 2010 14:55 GMT
#33
On August 07 2010 23:29 Chill wrote:
The theme of this blog should be there is a person living in your house for free.

Yet somehow it focuses on him being gay. I don't get it.


Clearly there is a connection. You'd have to be gay to move into some random dude's apt for free. Right?
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mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 15:01:36
August 07 2010 15:00 GMT
#34
Significant others squat all the time. Doesn't your lease mention something about squatters - no more than N consecutive nights for visitors, etc.

Trying to kick the bf out onto the couch is beyond legality (your lease doesn't care where visitors sleep), sounds like homophobia.
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Balfazar
Profile Joined November 2008
Australia483 Posts
August 07 2010 15:02 GMT
#35
Seems to be a bit of thought policing going on here... I think people have every right to be uncomfortable with something, as long as they don't then turn that into actions that infringe on the rights of others. And a friend's friend getting free board isn't a right.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8129 Posts
August 07 2010 15:09 GMT
#36
On August 08 2010 00:02 Balfazar wrote:
Seems to be a bit of thought policing going on here... I think people have every right to be uncomfortable with something, as long as they don't then turn that into actions that infringe on the rights of others. And a friend's friend getting free board isn't a right.

I don't really see the difference with someone saying he is unconfortable with black people and someone saying he's unconfortable with gays.

Everybody has the right to be a racist, but he won't get my sympathy. Same for homophobia.
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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
August 07 2010 15:29 GMT
#37
well anyways guys lets can the shit about the gay stuff

if it's your house and he's overstaying his welcome, tell him and kick him out. doesn't make a lick of difference if he's gay, black, jewish or a virgin

if you dont like gays, fine, that's how you feel. if you feel deep down that you dont want him around coz he's gay, well, it's your house. you can do whatever you want man
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Ursad0n
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States523 Posts
August 07 2010 15:35 GMT
#38
Tell him about it, tell him everything you feel
Give him every reason to accept that you're for real
You make it sound like there's a correlation between what should happen and what actually happens. I mean, life is chaotic and it's often unfair. I know it is for me.
killanator
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States549 Posts
August 07 2010 15:35 GMT
#39
I dont think your being a homophobe at all. I would feel the same way in that situation, or if it was a guy and a girl sleeping together in the same room as me. Especially for so long without paying any rent.
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 07 2010 15:53 GMT
#40
Maybe people are missing the point that the gay guy is his roomates friend and said gay guy brought over another friend.
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