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Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19141 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 00:49:16
July 30 2010 00:48 GMT
#41
When I check this again in the morning and if there is still off topic argueing behind my post it's going to be hammertime.

Manner up or take it to PM. This is not the place.
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Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
July 30 2010 02:15 GMT
#42
I'm not sure why there are so many haters in this thread. Every complaint, except the one where his shitty computer is at fault, is legitimate. He feels like he should be able to buy the game at a fair price, select the region settings, and install it simply. That's a pretty reasonable expectation.
PhOeniX[MinD]
Profile Joined August 2008
361 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 03:15:38
July 30 2010 03:14 GMT
#43
im agree with this blizzard sucks with translating they are awfull everybody hates it here, and u cant buy other version that the one on ur country i will buy it on USA cause it seems that there is no other option
KT_FlaSh #1
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
July 30 2010 08:10 GMT
#44
On July 30 2010 11:15 Slow Motion wrote:
I'm not sure why there are so many haters in this thread. Every complaint, except the one where his shitty computer is at fault, is legitimate. He feels like he should be able to buy the game at a fair price, select the region settings, and install it simply. That's a pretty reasonable expectation.


The thing is that I really expected a smooth experience from Blizzard. There are many minor things, they stack, and the whole impression is rather negative. I would take that from someone like .dat (Disciples III anyone?) but taking that from Blizzard is psychologically hard.

Please answer, does anybody else experience mem leaks in the game? I have to restart the client every now and then to smooth out my experience, otherwise it gets choppy.

Btw, my computer is in the recommended specs zone, way above minimum specs. I can't see why complaining about performance in that case is not legitimate. Also, it seems that the leaks/performance issues only happen in prolonged sessions of single-player.

Idk, but when you say that a game requires 1 gb of RAM as a minimum, there is no way it can take up 2,5 without bugs.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
RabidRat
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada13 Posts
July 30 2010 09:27 GMT
#45
No, I agree. I think a lot of you are missing the point: yeah the issues on their own are pretty small, and it's easy to pick them apart and say they're nothing. But when you put them all together, it becomes a miserable experience. Sure there are some things that weren't entirely Blizzard's fault, but they could've done a better job of delivering a better overall impression. And that's one thing I felt that SC1 really delivered on - overall impression.

Also Hynda, I think people would be a lot more inclined to listen to what you had to say if you would calm down and try to be civil.
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Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
July 30 2010 19:57 GMT
#46
Well, I ran it both on my 2 year old desktop (Core 2 Duo / 4Gb ram/Ati 4850) and my old laptop (Athlon64 / 2Gb ram / some lousy nvidia laptop graphics) and had no such problems. It's not amazingly fast on the laptop, but playable on low-medium settings, although I didn't run it for too long.

On my desktop, I've been keeping SC2 launched whole day, tabbing in and out and playing, no problems at all.
sowosamma
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8 Posts
July 31 2010 20:24 GMT
#47
pls that´s a joke is it? u mean by activating my german client i used up my activation code and are unable to play the english version i´m downloading the whole day? after finding out that the german synchro is downright awful i have to pay another 50 euros for just changing the language whilst in wow i just download a 500mb language pack for free?
well if that´s true i can fully understand his rage. i´d feel tricked and robbery is not a too harsh word for this.
pls someone tell me that this is just a great misunderstanding from my side and not actually true?!
Salty
Profile Joined June 2010
United States90 Posts
August 01 2010 07:44 GMT
#48
this is a joke right...? We're being trolled?

User was warned for this post
Needs more salt.
2g4u
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria27 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 18:32:22
August 01 2010 18:30 GMT
#49
First of all I completely understand that I can get warned/banned for this post, but I am gonna make it anyway.

So most of the issues that you have are YOURS and I mean YOURS fault.

1. You can arrange your things that way you can be free at Thursday, the SC2 launch date had been announced like month ago...

So "Fuck you, Mr. BluzMan".

2. No wonders that your computer is running slowly, when your HD is full, but it still amazes me that in 2010 the disk space is a problems with HDDs being as cheap as 30$.

3. On mid end PC not older then 2 years the game installs for around 10-15mins. Longer times means that your PC is not optimized or that it is too old.

"Sorry, Mr. BluzMan, but you CAN'T play on the PC that you bought for Starcraft I"

4. Patching takes UNDER a minute. Unless ofc if you are using the good old 56k modem that you bought for Warcraft II Battle.net edition...

5. The problem with the slow refresh(which can be forced by simply changing your password) of some accounts and the thing that they don't allow localized version to use the English translation - I pin that to Blizzard.

6. However the money problems are COMPLETELY yours fault. I live in Bulgaria so don't come at me with the argument that the life standard here is higher than in Russian cause we are almost as poor as most of the Russians. Anyway if you have spent your childhood in studding instead in drinking vodka, you would have a nice job, which would afford you to buy a good gaming rig and a stable connection and the 90 euros(the price for the CE in Bulgaria) which I paid for the CE would seem like well spent money to support one of your favorite games.

So again "Fuck you, Mr. BluzMan".

I normally don't get mad at people easily, but I can't stand people, which love to blame the world for theirs failures.

User was warned for this post
When free will is outlawed, only outlaws will have free will!
my0s
Profile Joined March 2010
United States193 Posts
August 01 2010 21:27 GMT
#50
Ok some of you guys are seriously jumping on the Blizz bandwagon coupled with seeing an excuse to flame. Some of the responses here are quite valid, but missing the point entirely.

1. His computer is apparently, not so great. His fault for running a game below specs and expecting it to run great? Technically yes. But, let us also consider Blizzards LONG standing history of making games that my graphing calculator could run if it put everything on low. Part of it may be that we have reached a tech mark where Blizz was forced to lean on the side of pretty and was unable to scale it down as far as they would like for other customers. But it was a valid point he brought up and something that Blizzard used to be known for in every game until SC2.

2. The Pricing scheme over there is 100% a rip off. I feel it is nothing short of the result of the Acivision merger coupled with the inflated profit expectations since WoW was released. If they truly were trying to make different price structures to accomodate certain regions they would not have the ultimate price tag 40-60%+ above US Retail. Its just greed and it was an extremely valid point.

3. Patching in all honesty didn't take long at all. I understand if in Russia you might not have access to high end broadband like in most of the US, but its not blizzards fault there. It just is what it is. On that note, I know your b.net account was a little frustrating too, but really they just launched b.net 2.0 and if all that happened was some people had to change their password then hell, that still pretty successful launch.

4. Game load times are annoyingly long. Not something I would rage the forums about and boycott the game. But coupled with other problems I can see how it gets frustrating.


So I don't agree with the entire post. But it is deff not something to be flammed or otherwise devalued because it does have a lot of interesting and some extremely valid points on what Blizzard used to be, and where they seem to be going. I still love Blizzard, and they are FAR, FAR and away the best company out there. But even they seem to be falling prey, if nothing else a small part, to the greed and shortcomings that rampantly plague other companies.
bias-
Profile Joined October 2004
United States410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 04:13:37
August 02 2010 04:12 GMT
#51
I've been done with Blizzard and SC2 for a long time now. I had inklings when one of the designers didn't know you merge two templars to get an archon. After that nearly every detail that had to do with gameplay and community was controversial to just plain bad. After all the games I've loved from Blizzard, seeing this game and they way the company's morphed, I'm done with it. Right there with you OP
For serious minds, a bias recognized is a bias sterilized.
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 18:27:11
August 02 2010 04:19 GMT
#52
On August 02 2010 03:30 2g4u wrote:
However the money problems are COMPLETELY yours fault. I live in Bulgaria so don't come at me with the argument that the life standard here is higher than in Russian cause we are almost as poor as most of the Russians. Anyway if you have spent your childhood in studding instead in drinking vodka, you would have a nice job, which would afford you to buy a good gaming rig and a stable connection and the 90 euros(the price for the CE in Bulgaria) which I paid for the CE would seem like well spent money to support one of your favorite games.

So again "Fuck you, Mr. BluzMan".

I normally don't get mad at people easily, but I can't stand people, which love to blame the world for theirs failures.


Wtf was that? you need to take a deep breath before posting, that was both stupid and offensive. And did you mean studying or studding? Sounds like his English is better than yours anyway. Maybe you should have studied more as a child (unless I'm unfamiliar with usage of studding..?)

I'm sure you have a similar problem in your country. In Russia there are plenty of bright and educated people who simply do not have opportunities, due to workplace politics, to shine. Bashing the system is ok, bashing the people is messed up. This is in reference to your stop drinking and study to get a job comment. So "Fuck you Mr. 2 good 4 you".

Besides, the guy said countless times his comp is above minimum requirements, in the recommended requirements zone. And I can also see how having these problems TOGETHER could be frustrating.

Paying $80 for a game that costs 60 elsewhere is messed up, especially when it is done under a slogan of making it easier for Russians to buy the game, Having to pay ultimately 80 while your expectations of a smooth experience are ruined is even worse.

I'd make a fucked up comment about Bulgarians but actually know a few cool ones, not like yourself, out of respect for them I'll shut up here. Advice for you - take a shot of vodka, you need to relax. And just so you know, there are tons of Russians who are smarter, more educated, richer (since you made a comment about that) and obviously more mannered than you are... make sure this truth sinks into your arrogant head.
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Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
August 02 2010 13:21 GMT
#53
I bought the game, installed, patched and was playing within 10 minutes.
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BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
August 02 2010 14:31 GMT
#54
Holy crap what a shitstorm.

I have never hoped to acheive something like this =)))
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Iron_
Profile Joined April 2010
United States389 Posts
August 03 2010 20:13 GMT
#55
While I did not have any issues with install, and I dont have to deal with localization stuff either, the game does in fact chunk up and crash more often than I would expect. It also takes forever to load each new screen.

I spent a ton on my computer and it benchmarks in the top 0.1%, so I was pretty disappointed to see load screens taking forever and the game still chunking, particularly with TWO of the highest end graphics cards on crossfire. 90-120 second load screens was not part of what I expected at all.

Otherwise, very happy with everything and I love the game.
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
August 03 2010 20:46 GMT
#56
there is only 1 possible solution...


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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
August 03 2010 23:42 GMT
#57
3. On mid end PC not older then 2 years the game installs for around 10-15mins. Longer times means that your PC is not optimized or that it is too old.

Took an hour to install for me and my PC is pretty decent ;/ Most likely it's because my DVD player is pretty crappy tho D:
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 00:24:11
August 04 2010 00:22 GMT
#58
If it makes you feel better, the US copy is $60 retail + tax.


Took an hour to install for me and my PC is pretty decent ;/ Most likely it's because my DVD player is pretty crappy tho D:

My laptop installed faster than my PC, which was weird. The PC got stuck at like 38% for 10 minutes.
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FaZe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada472 Posts
August 04 2010 07:18 GMT
#59
Every service moment in which I directly or indirectly deal with a company is going to add to my overall perception of them. I'll admit, the problems that BluzMan brought to the table are mostly trivial (apart from the lag / lockups, but those are obviously not Blizzard's fault), however with enough SMALL negative service moments, someone's perception of a company can be drastically changed.

For example : If you go to a movie theater and the parking lot is a little messy, is that a big deal? No. What about if there's a line at the Box Office, or you're given the wrong change at the concession stand, or you are directed to the wrong auditorium? I wouldn't say any of these things RUIN your whole experience, but if you put them all together, they result in a view of "Wow, this company is shit." Maybe some people didn't show up for work that day so there was a long line, or the person at the doorstand just had his pet put down and wasn't really paying attention. However, in the end, it doesn't matter what the circumstances are. Accomodations have to be made to improve the service. If the consumer is unhappy with a service, it is due at least in part to the company that provides it.
"Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none."
2g4u
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria27 Posts
August 04 2010 10:31 GMT
#60
On August 04 2010 08:42 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
3. On mid end PC not older then 2 years the game installs for around 10-15mins. Longer times means that your PC is not optimized or that it is too old.

Took an hour to install for me and my PC is pretty decent ;/ Most likely it's because my DVD player is pretty crappy tho D:


I used the digital installer, HD2HD is faster then the DVD2HD. Anyway I might be wrong with the times, but it didn't take more then 30 mins to install the game for sure(MPQ extraction is pretty fast).
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