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Argentina and Gay Marriage: Why the law was passed - Page 2

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HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 05:11:52
July 16 2010 05:05 GMT
#21
You dont know what is a priority...safety and better education is a more important priority.. and the equaling of the rights does affect me it gives me more places to work and more people to help.
and you are talking about equaling of rights? what about the disabled? the old? and the orfans?
yeah my family has them and the govenment has done little to nothing to help any of them.

My aunt had to fight for months to get her now adopted childen that were saved from an abusive father who is now in prison thankfully , I only know half of the story and I still dont know how those little children could grow up to that. The judge was ruleing in favor of the mother that was a recovering alcoholic that had little to no income.. and my aunt has a master in Psicology she earns well and she works for the govenment.
My Disabled aunt always had to pay for her treatments cause there is no universal healthcare (thats a huge priority right there) and my dad and my mother had to help her out on everything cause there was no govenmental help on many of those stuff

What has the govenment done to make those a priority, they obligated macri to make his own police, they are making his job a living hell so he cant do things right, I dont like macri but he is bening pushed around. The law as a stated earlier is a very good law but there are many things that should and could have been addressed as something more important.

My right to be safe and to have a place where my family and friends can live safely is a priority, and that comes with education and with a better police force. I hate the police they do not make me feel safe.
There are a lot of things that have to be changed in this country and the equality of rights is just a step..

what about the right of musicians then? isnt that something the government has to take care of?
stop thinking this was an awesome move cause some 1st world countries havent done it, there are things we still have to think about..

Dont get me wrong I dont live bad im just thinking that this a shallow law it helps but there is much to be done..
in The Kong line forever
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 05:32:41
July 16 2010 05:32 GMT
#22
On July 16 2010 14:05 HeadhunteR wrote:
You dont know what is a priority...safety and better education is a more important priority.. and the equaling of the rights does affect me it gives me more places to work and more people to help.
and if you are talking about equaling of rights? what about the disabled? the old? and the orfans?
yeah my family has them and the govenment has done little to none to help many of them.


The old? The government changed the retirement system so people are getting more money now that they were getting 1 year ago.

Do you know how much money the old private retirement system stole from the eldery? Do you know about the Clarin - AFJP case where the private retirement companies bought Clarin stock actions for 30$ and after they did they plumbered to 6$?

The orphans? Hopefully now that gay people can adopt more people can be adopted instead of living under those circumstances.

On July 16 2010 14:05 HeadhunteR wrote:
My aunt had to fight for months to get her now adopted childen that were saved from an abusive father who is now in prison thankfully , I only know half of the story and I still dont know how those little children could grow up to that. The judge was ruleing in favor of the mother that was a recovering alchoolic that had little to no income..
My Disabled aunt always had to pay for her treatments and my dad and my mother had to help her out on everything cause there was no govenmental regulation.


I won't comment on this since I can't comment on your particular case since I don't know you, or your aunt. Maybe if you cite some sources about how there is no regulation on the matter? (you said "was" which is really confusing, is there a regulation now?)

On July 16 2010 14:05 HeadhunteR wrote:
What has the govenment done to make those a priority, they obligated macri to make his own police, they are making his job a living hell so he cant do things right, I dont like macri but he is bening pushed around. The law as a stated earlier is a very good law but there are many things that should and could have been addressed as something more important.


The government never ogligated Macri to make their own police. Macri starting a new city police was his own idea.

Oh a Macri fan I see. Now I understand. You are basically defending the people who stole everything from our public institutions in the 90's. You should read a little more on Macri, his companies and his father. Maybe it will shed some light into what his actual intentions are.

On July 16 2010 14:05 HeadhunteR wrote:
My right to be safe and to have a place where my family and friends can live safely is a priority, and that comes with education and with a better police force. I hate the police they do not make me feel safe.
There are a lot of things that have to be changed in this country and the equality of rights is just a step.


How about the universal child quota the government applied? 25% more children are going to public schools in ONE year. That number seem little to you? This is in the whole country not just "your city". Kids that had to work in awful conditions will hopefully now get an education and get out of that situation.

About being safe. Do you know that when all the media started to report all those violent crimes the total number of violent crimes went down? Stop buying what they sell you. I feel like I'm listening to some conservative TV channel (FOX news I guess for those in the US) instead of talking to someone. How about you cite some facts instead of just spitting problems left and right.


On July 16 2010 14:05 HeadhunteR wrote:
what about the right of musicians then? isn't that something the government has to take care of?
stop thinking this was an awesome move cause some 1st world countries havent done it, there are things we still have to think about..


The right of musicians? What? I'm speechless lol.

If it's not much to ask for, could you dedicate some time to check your posts, they are pretty hard to read.

Oh, by the way you still haven't answered how this was a political move by the government. You still have not replied what we were actually talking about.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 05:39:26
July 16 2010 05:38 GMT
#23
On July 16 2010 08:52 HeadhunteR wrote:
The international press has covered it but some have forgotten that 2 years ago the big fight was the farmers vs the government that caused a downfall in the agrultural exports.


Oh yeah?

http://en.mercopress.com/2010/02/12/abundant-rainfall-anticipates-a-record-soy-bean-crop-for-argentina

Stop predicting Armageddon on things you read nothing on HeadhundeR, please.

If you read any decent source, exports went downfall on 2009 for Argentina cause of the scarce rains we had.
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HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
July 16 2010 05:44 GMT
#24
thanks for the insight, i was working with little info, i haven't talked about this stuff in a while. you made me realize im being to hot headed against the government, its that i don't like it how things are going right now. I see people around me that are suffering real problems the stuff going in the north, the lack of good support for schools and also people i know that were robbed recently it doesn't help.

And I said I dont like macri i think he is scum he hides behind a mask he acts friendly but he is just another menemista..

and about your question i have answered it the government is acting against the church, and the passing of the law helps the international public image of the Kirchnners.

oh and finally You cant tell me they are not robbing us, cause every president has. (yes even those presidents the 5 presidents in 1 week)
in The Kong line forever
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
July 16 2010 05:46 GMT
#25
On July 16 2010 08:52 HeadhunteR wrote:
Huge transportation problem there is in the capital city BUENOS AIRES..


the Future of my country seems grim and I dont know what will happen to us in the future..


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704518904575364523811330964.html

Argentina said it secured an agreement with China for the Asian giant to invest $10 billion in the South American country's railways, Beijing's latest move to extend its influence in Latin America through multibillion-dollar energy and infrastructure deals.


China to invest in 10 separate rail projects in Argentina over the next two to five years, including construction of rail lines and equipment. Among these is a $2.5 billion rail-renovation project in the capital, Buenos Aires, Mr. Schiavi said.


Oh yeah, you are right, they are nothing to solve this.

I should also mention that the government is about to finish 15Km of subway in the following months. Macri promised 15Km / year and he's not even done with 5Km (he has been the city mayor since Dec 10 2007).
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HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 05:57:47
July 16 2010 05:48 GMT
#26
On July 16 2010 14:46 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2010 08:52 HeadhunteR wrote:
Huge transportation problem there is in the capital city BUENOS AIRES..


the Future of my country seems grim and I dont know what will happen to us in the future..


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704518904575364523811330964.html

Show nested quote +
Argentina said it secured an agreement with China for the Asian giant to invest $10 billion in the South American country's railways, Beijing's latest move to extend its influence in Latin America through multibillion-dollar energy and infrastructure deals.


China to invest in 10 separate rail projects in Argentina over the next two to five years, including construction of rail lines and equipment. Among these is a $2.5 billion rail-renovation project in the capital, Buenos Aires, Mr. Schiavi said.


Oh yeah, you are right, they are nothing to solve this.

I should also mention that the government is about to finish 15Km of subway in the following months. Macri promised 15Km / year and he's not even done with 5Km (he has been the city mayor since Dec 10 2007).



Holy crap that is very good news i cant believe it 2 billion? hell yeah i said public transportation is an issue.. see this is what im talking about this kind of stuff has to be adressed this is great news!!
I hope they do use those 2.5 billons, if not in 3-4 years ill be asking what the hell happened...
in The Kong line forever
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
July 16 2010 06:09 GMT
#27
http://foros.3dgames.com.ar/club-3dg.144/624640.tren-para-todos-llego-al-congreso.2.html#post12232636

You can read more there. We are not "getting 2.5billon" literally, but it's the investment number for transport things in bs as.
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ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
July 16 2010 07:15 GMT
#28
I dont know if it is a political or not in this case, but that stuff is sometimes discouraging. Legitimate issues that are being used in political plays rather than an honest effort to do the right thing. Racism, sexism, PC etc is exploited like that a lot in North America for example.
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
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