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A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
July 09 2010 04:28 GMT
#21
BJ Penn -- Yes, I think he will rape Frankie the next time they fight. BJ isn't the ultimate winner, but he's still a beast when motivated.

GSP -- Yeah, I don't know who beats him at this weight class until his body starts to deteriorate.

Silva -- I think Chael has a legit chance to win here. Silva seems complacent and Chael is a vulnerable style match-up for him. I'd still take Silva though.

Machida -- Is the man until Shogun recovers, sure. The third match between the two would be interesting now that Machida's style has been twice refuted by Shogun, meaning that Machida will have to make some changes to his game plan. Isn't this the second or third problem Shogun has had with his knee? Who knows if he will return to full strength?

Lesnar -- Brock's still the man here. Cain is fast, but his boxing is so-so and Brock is much much quicker than Nog. How is Cain going to keep Brock off of him?



My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
Zeller
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States1109 Posts
July 09 2010 04:58 GMT
#22
On July 09 2010 13:28 A3iL3r0n wrote:
BJ Penn -- Yes, I think he will rape Frankie the next time they fight. BJ isn't the ultimate winner, but he's still a beast when motivated.

GSP -- Yeah, I don't know who beats him at this weight class until his body starts to deteriorate.

Silva -- I think Chael has a legit chance to win here. Silva seems complacent and Chael is a vulnerable style match-up for him. I'd still take Silva though.

Machida -- Is the man until Shogun recovers, sure. The third match between the two would be interesting now that Machida's style has been twice refuted by Shogun, meaning that Machida will have to make some changes to his game plan. Isn't this the second or third problem Shogun has had with his knee? Who knows if he will return to full strength?

Lesnar -- Brock's still the man here. Cain is fast, but his boxing is so-so and Brock is much much quicker than Nog. How is Cain going to keep Brock off of him?





First off thanks for some quality debate.

Yeah I figured I would get a lot of flak for the Cain pick. It's going to be tough for anyone to agree with me, especially after Brock beating Shane. I think Cains standup is the BEST in the HW division. Shane Carwin definitely hits the hardest, Brock hits hard too, but if were talking technical skills here, Cain all the way.

205 is going to be getting sorted out for awhile while shogun gets his knee fixed again. I just feel like Machida will go on another run to get his 3rd fight against Shogun, I feel that he can handle the pressures of being on top now.
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
July 09 2010 10:18 GMT
#23
I don't understand people reasoning Brock > Cain by saying Carwin hits harder than Cain and still couldn't finish Brock.

Well, there are 5 rounds, you don't have to do it in one. As the match progresses, Cain will be in more and more of an advantage.

Carwin fought for 1 round and he was done, he had absolutely no chance of winning after how visibly exhausted he was after 1st round. I don't see how he's the material to base your argument on and draw parallels with Velasquez when Velasquez is a totally different type of fighter.

Velasquez will hit you with maybe 15% less power, but he'll hit you for 5 rounds without stopping.
Carwin hits you 20 times and then gets ready to tap if you're not dead.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 09 2010 15:56 GMT
#24
Too bad Carwin never lost until Brock so that argument is pretty void.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Fallen33
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States596 Posts
July 09 2010 18:07 GMT
#25
99.9% of people fighting carwin in that fight would've been doneski mid-way through the first round -- see his previous 12 fights -- the fact that lesnar survived it proves how much of a beast he is. lesnar will destroy cain in 2 rounds, TOPS
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