I tried to forget about it, play computer game. Then I feel so inhumane.. like , death just occured and I can still play game.. Ah..I feel like a bad girl.
It kept troubling me ever since. Now I am trying to me more matured, more understanding, I mean....sensible? I always have a feeling other people would have know what to do during crisis and I am just feeling lost and helpless all the time.
Ah, that's horrible If it means anything, I don't think you're a bad person for trying to tune it out. It wasn't your fault the cat got hurt, and that type of thing can be scary to any person at any age. If there ever comes a time when your help is really needed for someone or something, I'm sure you'll heed the call.
On June 23 2010 10:17 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: So what is the cause of your sadness over the incident? The fact that an animal died, or the fact that the owners will be upset?
For me, it would obviously be the fact that the animal was most probably loved by it's owner.
On June 23 2010 11:58 Masamune wrote: All I'm trying to get across is that it's a fucking cat. Yes, it died a painful and horrible death. Now why don't you go on some mission to Africa feeding the HUMANS (cause apparently, there is some hierarchy in how much sympathy animals get) that are suffering from chronic hunger?
Why aren't you there, instead of posting here?
That's irrelevant. The point he makes still stands, plus he isn't the one saddened by the death of a cat more than the death of humans.
On June 23 2010 10:17 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: So what is the cause of your sadness over the incident? The fact that an animal died, or the fact that the owners will be upset?
For me, it would obviously be the fact that the animal was most probably loved by it's owner.
On June 23 2010 11:58 Masamune wrote: All I'm trying to get across is that it's a fucking cat. Yes, it died a painful and horrible death. Now why don't you go on some mission to Africa feeding the HUMANS (cause apparently, there is some hierarchy in how much sympathy animals get) that are suffering from chronic hunger?
Why aren't you there, instead of posting here?
That's irrelevant. The point he makes still stands, plus he isn't the one saddened by the death of a cat more than the death of humans.
That last part is dumb. That is like saying it is wrong to be sadder about the death of your own mother than you are for the death of two complete strangers. This cat died in front of him and he watched it happen, obviously that has an effect on him.
People don't get sad to the same degree over expected deaths such as a cow being slaughtered for food, as opposed to unexpected deaths such as your pet cat being run over by a car.
On June 23 2010 11:50 Masamune wrote: There's nothing wrong with his response, but animals are animals. How can you say a mammal is worth more than an arthropod?
Easily?
This is some philosophical haven where intellect is paramount.
It's simple - we grow up all our lives , some with cats as pets, and seeing cats as cute and friendly little guys. Some people don't like them so much. Moths are much more universally loathed, and our culture places little to no value on insects.
Do you live in a vacuum?
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Also, Nukethestars _never_ held a grudge against the driver. There should be no debate about that part.
On June 23 2010 11:28 Romantic wrote:
Jesus Christ someone like you ALWAYS has to post. Do you give a lecture to everyone who has an emotion?
This too!! Can't we just come together over the OPs stress. LETS JUST FUCKING LOVE EACH OTHER
lol? I already stated in my earlier post that we have a natural bias towards, cute, fury animals. You could say from an evolutionary standpoint, we may feel more for a mammal because it's more closely related to us genetically. Socially, we do grow up with them, yes. Where the fuck have I said he was wrong for being mad that the cat died?
All I'm trying to get across is that it's a fucking cat. Yes, it died a painful and horrible death. Now why don't you go on some mission to Africa feeding the HUMANS (cause apparently, there is some hierarchy in how much sympathy animals should get) that are suffering from chronic hunger?
@RageOverdose I can't respond back in this thread...I don't know if the OP banned me from it or the mods (this will be my last response in it as I feel I should be able to defend myself fairly) but you need to read the thread over.
I wasn't trying to be malicious or anything. I sympathize with the cat and the sad feelings. I posted the "it's a fucking cat" comment in response to the hypocrisy in this thread regarding the value of life, not in response to the OP. My main gripe with the OP and others in this thread was the collective annoyance towards the driver that did the right thing and whom decided it would be better not to be antagonized by some naive kids. Yeah, if he stopped he could have saved the cat, as demonstrated by our lovely OP. The reaction would have been much worse if he swirved into a toddler instead, trying to avoid the cat. The OP already mentions that he only stopped on his driveway for a few minutes--how long would he have waited if he saw a child crushed?
And no, I'm not going to go to Africa because my family already donates to causes like that. I was merely making a point that people who are outraged over my comments about a moth and a cat, and who seemingly have this magical hierarchy of animal value in their heads, probably flip past World Vision commercials to catch re-runs of Friends, while eating their forest-destroying hamburgers and wearing Nike apparel, made in third-world countries.
I absolutly love the bolded part. He lectures us all about everything that is wrong in the world and then says this. He takes credit for other peoples generosity that he happens to know, and admittedly has done nothing himself.
I realize my existence has probably lead to much more brutal treatment and death towards all forms of life--and I don't pretend like it doesn't. Life to me is equal. Apparently to the hypocrites in this thread, it is not, and they'd rather cry over a dead cat in comparison to a moth, while at the same time feasting on the flesh of animals who would have wished to be in the place of that cat, as opposed to the hell they call a cage.
@ella_guru Yes, life to me is equal, but that doesn't mean that I care about them equally, and I don't pretend that I do.
What The Fuck? That made absolutely no sense.
The OP annoyed me because he mentioned in a later post that he was annoyed the driver didn't stop to check on the cat, because apparently, the driver should have the same values on life that he does.
According to your bullshit all life is equal crap the driver should have reacted the same way as if he had hit a human.... and a moth.
It's actually kinda ironic that the OP is arguing with me that the cat is superior to the moth, while at the same time, mad at the driver who made the right decision in reducing human harm over the harm to the cat (whether intentional or not).
Contradicting yourself again.
Also according to your logic all animals on this earth are equal. How the fuck does that work out? How do you justify eating anything at all? If you eat any meat or any plants what so ever you are going against your belief that all living organisms are equal. Unless you're extremely selfish (like everyone else) and don't care. In whish case you are not in a position to lecture us.
Dying is part of life. It's good that you're so impacted by it's suffering, because it means that you're a good person.
I remember when I was young, maybe 8 or 9, I had a bb gun. There were birds in the cherry tree and my parents wanted me to scare them away, because they were eating the cherries. So I got my BB gun, but for some reason i decided to aim right at the bird. I really didn't think about the consequences. I ended up shooting a bird right in the head and it dropped out of the tree and I was immediately like "what have I done?". I ran over to the bird and I had shot it through the cheek and i held it as it died, I was so sad about this, maybe the saddest and most regretful of anything I have ever done. I cried a lot about it and made a little grave for the bird with a cross, I didn't really know what I was doing but it seemed appropriate. What I did was stupid but I was good to not react callously to this event, and to instead accept my feelings of grief over what had happened and what I had done.
Everything dies my friend, and suffering is temporary. It's ok, don't let it bum you out too much. The universe is balanced and while suffering may not seem appropriate, everything works out in the end. Don't be too distressed by the pain of others it is only a temporary thing.
Believe it or not, it's very healthy to spend time thinking about these things.
On June 23 2010 10:17 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: So what is the cause of your sadness over the incident? The fact that an animal died, or the fact that the owners will be upset? I realize that witnessing such a thing happening first hand feels different, but you might want to think about the animals that die when you eat meat. Unless you are a vegetarian of course.
Btw, I'm not a vegetarian, I just think it's irrational for people to feel so much pity watching an animal die first hand when millions are butchered for our pleasure every year.
I agree with this post. Watching this video really challenges our views on the disparity between how we treat pet animals and how we treat food animals:
On June 23 2010 10:51 semantics wrote: Obv need to teach cats to use the crosswalk or use the wait look and listen.
lol... poor animal, but hey, at least it wasn't a dog I fucking hate cats... (not enough to not feel bad if I saw one get run over, but I don't understand the attraction to owning them as housepets).
Once my wife hit a kangaroo with her car. She had to watch as it desperately tried to hobble off to the side of the road and kept trying to hop with really broken legs. It's a fucking horrible thing to happen. She had to call the police to come and turn it into a corpse by shooting it in the face. Not nice.
Ahh it still amazes me how people can care for animals so much. There are times when I'm sensitive for animals and times when I don't as much. I'm sorry you had to witness a little kitty get killed, and I'm more surprised the person who hit it actually got out to see if it was okay, but really it makes me smile when people actually get to be "nice". You should've gotten her number yo~
You get shaken up over something like this? Usually cats don't die this easily, consider it lucky. I've seen animals get hit quite a few times, one cat kept agonizing for minutes in the middle of the road, nobody wanted to touch him because it looked ugly. He was still running with all of his feet but he was lying on his side, the spinal was broken. Finally he lucked out and some truck squashed him, a bystander dragged him off to a sidewalk. And who in the right mind would try to stop after hitting a cat at full speed? Not like it's going to live.
On June 23 2010 12:20 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Usually I don't stay so late playing games, but my roomate wasn't at home that night. So I am alone and feel lost. I wanted to go down to see the cat condition but I am afraid it is very gruesome. I am afraid of blood. I am also afraid the gang of dogs might come back and bite my neck or something.
Were you going to walk on all fours? lol If you were going to do that let the dogs examine your neck area, don't try to fight them. This would determine subordination and you can become a member of a gang.
I'm more of a dog person, what would the world become if a cat could beat a dog? T_T
At least those were some noble dogs, left his body intact instead of tearing it up. That cat died like a warrior, a spartan among cats.
oh jesus, my brother's fiance saw a cat get run over. since me and my brother a big cat lovers, we drove over to see if we could help it. it had his/her head in the air and it was meowing in so much pain and then it just died as soon as we approached it. it was so sad driving it to the humane society with it. we had to do it though so at least they could scan the microchip to tell the owners.
I once saw a car ram over a long "hotdog", I instantly closed my eyes the moment the dog got ram over and I could hear the owner scream loudly in horror, next thing I knew was the dog walking away the ram like nothing happened. Drivers should really stop if they hit an animal though =(
On June 23 2010 15:35 BarneyEX wrote: I once saw a car ram over a long "hotdog", I instantly closed my eyes the moment the dog got ram over and I could hear the owner scream loudly in horror, next thing I knew was the dog walking away the ram like nothing happened. Drivers should really stop if they hit an animal though =(
So they can see it die a horrible death full of suffering and have the image engraved into their memories forever? I don't get this idea at all. Maybe if you got good nerves you can stop and check the mess out, scrape the brain off your bumper etc. But a person with good nerves wouldn't usually care to stop for a roadkill, it's just a natural thing to happen.
Firebathero: You are mistaken if you think you are living. You are currently dying. You're just creeping towards death little by little. Your life is limited by time.
On June 23 2010 11:45 Masamune wrote: What's really the difference between a cat and a moth? From what it sounds like, this cat died pretty soon after it go hit. Was the guy who hit it supposed to light a funeral pyre or something?
That's like saying, what's really the difference between a cat and a human? The human probably died a short while after so what are you supposed to do? Calm down the people who weren't calm?
EPT
If it means anything, I don't think you're a bad person for trying to tune it out. It wasn't your fault the cat got hurt, and that type of thing can be scary to any person at any age. If there ever comes a time when your help is really needed for someone or something, I'm sure you'll heed the call.![[image loading]](http://lh3.ggpht.com/_bIODQdfYchE/S9JxKgRa19I/AAAAAAAAAfY/LPRo7zGl5o8/s720/IMG_0962.JPG)
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I fucking hate cats... (not enough to not feel bad if I saw one get run over, but I don't understand the attraction to owning them as housepets). 
If you were going to do that let the dogs examine your neck area, don't try to fight them. This would determine subordination and you can become a member of a gang.
