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We just won :D
I was worried that our qualifers would use 66b like the other countries did for theirs, but we ended up using 67c.
We didn't have any specific strategies prepared, just a safe play style. Strong lanes -> farm core items -> push/pressure.
For those who follow DotA:
Replay
Picks
Sentinel: SF (me) Windrunner VS Necro Sven
Scourge: Alch Drow Tide WD Silencer
Pretty straightforward. Their heroes can't match our farming speed early game, lack AoE so we can outfarm core items and take down towers while keeping our own and that should compensate for drow/alch being super gay once they get some farming speed mid game.
BTW, we early picked drow 1st game which they must not have expected.. hence the drow 1st pick.
1st game we played pretty sloppy, and the host left right after gg so we all got disc'd no replay 
2nd game we played alright but I think it was more of their bad decision making since pressure was on them at that point.
I'm glad we won but watching Korea getting buttraped by Argentia just before the match was depressing T_T
PS: We're still up for practice games if anyone's interested. It's just that 1 of our members is doing his military service so his time isn't as flexible.
 
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Just wondering, do you know who MarchTofu is?
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On June 18 2010 02:16 ThePurist wrote:
Just wondering, do you know who MarchTofu is?
Yes.
We were on the same team for WCG + ADC last year. Although he left to Canda after 1 game for the latter. In fact, I'm having a conversation with him now  Korea's a pretty small place, so team members often get together irl and hang out, although half of it consists of DotA @ pc bangs lol.
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I know him irl as well =)
I play a lot dota for fun on throneit.com kkkk ... I think it's amazing what national teams can do. You guys are amazing.
Yo best of luck to you guys in the future!
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That Silencer pick was dumb...actually their entire line up was dumb. Good job outpicking them. Sven/VS/WR to create space for Necro and SF early to mid. Hell even that WD/Alch lane (if they ran it, can't see the replay) can't do shit as long as your VS was worth something.
Heen, tell March to rage bb multiple times at ESWC.
Congratulations, gogo gg.net replay!! :D
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Calgary26004 Posts
Wait.. you won a game or the whole thing? Either way, congrats. Winning at WCG is always hard!
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Congrats, how many teams were in it?
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On June 18 2010 02:54 GreEny K wrote:
Congrats, how many teams were in it?
2 teams...
pretty funny and sad at the same time. The Korean DotA community is bigger (estimate around 20k active users) but some factors that contributed:
- 3 days sign up period + notice (some teams wanted in but couldn't prepare the roster and information needed to signup)
- same 2-3 teams having a realistic shot at winning (no motivation for the weak ones), iirc:
2007: around 12 teams (xDT)
2008: 8 (TOFU)
2009: 6 (xDT + TOFU)
2010: 2 (our team which has roots in xDT)
So the 2 games were the finals, technically. Not a real accomplishment, but we were pretty confident and we'll have some 'real' goals @ Singapore hopefully. No matter how much the odds were in our favor this year, actually winning it was still an experience.
Judicator: I think they chocked during picks. It was rather obvious that their picks were forced and they focused on denying us the heroes that synergized with our lineup... and lost sight of their own synergy.
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congrats.
winning WCG is preety big, hope you do as well in finals!
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Wow. You guys dominated drow top.
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Nice job!
Man I should get better at DotA sometime.
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Croatia9559 Posts
Hehe, as a pretty new enthusiastic Dota player I congratulate you and wishes you best of luck in grand finals!
Now back at noobying on iccup.... if anyone plays Dota on iccup and wanna play msg me!
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I wish I knew anything about dota. If this was HoN, I'd love to watch the replay. Congratulations regardless!
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Congrats Heen!!!!
Oh and screw march ;P
Edit: How'd your practice go? Did you feel like your win was through just better combined individual skill and if so are you nervous about the next matches ;x
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On June 18 2010 04:24 Durak wrote:
I wish I knew anything about dota. If this was HoN, I'd love to watch the replay. Congratulations regardless!
Same.. I tried dota a couple weeks ago and didn't really like it, but I enjoy hon so maybe I'll check your rep. Well done :p
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On June 18 2010 04:27 Ack1027 wrote:
Congrats Heen!!!!
Oh and screw march ;P
Edit: How'd your practice go? Did you feel like your win was through just better combined individual skill and if so are you nervous about the next matches ;x
Thanks! <3
I'd say a mix of both. Our players were more active and our play style, preferred game flow has been stabilized somewhat, almost like a formula.
Nervous? Hrmm... I always feel like we need practice of course. Few games vs some of the top teams of Asia prove that they outclass us.
Oh yea, Judicator, rage bb = rage buyback from last year's AWCG? I assumed rage bb was some kind of inside joke about march's bristleback in an EEDL game or something.
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It is, nv was split up during a few eedl games, march was kind of up and down and missing things he normally gets with windrunner, so Fear was making fun of him after every death.
Dunno about the top Asian teams, for me it just seems their strategies are pretty "simple" or "transparent". I feel like a lot of their success comes from running simple and well-executed team fights; very effective, almost like they're welcoming you into a team fight that you believe you have the advantage when you clearly don't.
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That's a pretty accurate description of what it feels like to play vs them I suppose :D
Trial and error has taught us. So, not choosing to fight welcoming fights is part of our *metagame.* But clearly, we need to develop a better solution/counter than to trust our instincts.
I'm not a good analyzer, so I'll have to think about how we can pinpoint what leads us to poor decisions and tackle the root of the problem
edit: Did I use metagame correctly or should I avoid using the term since it's so commonly misused and understood anyway?
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