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StukA
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States64 Posts
May 20 2010 16:11 GMT
#1
This day, 5.20.10, I StukA have finally reached 1600! I remember when I first started ladder and seeing people with 1600 rating... I knew it would be hard to reach it, but I got it! I thought it would take me months, but wow this feeling of achieving a goal that I thought was almost impossible is pretty nice. lol Now that I reached 1600 I have a desire to try to reach 1700 now. I know it will be more difficult than going from 1400-1600, but I know that in the process I will be a better player and learn more about myself.

Even though my record is 45-35, I do not mind because I am improving. Wish me luck! On my way to 1700.


p.s. What "skills" should a person have by the time he/she reaches 1700, to be considered a true 1700 player? is 1700 a pretty good rating?

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StukA
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States64 Posts
May 20 2010 16:12 GMT
#2
When I ask "is 1700 a pretty good rating," would that be like C- in ICCup? because the highest I ever reached in ICCup is D+ ;(
LokiLuck
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania2 Posts
May 20 2010 16:14 GMT
#3
Good Luck then

We are waiting for your post "Broke 1700 Rating!" :D
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
May 20 2010 16:30 GMT
#4
I really wonder whether the bonus points cause a point creep, where, since there is a net increase in points within the system, players at the same skill level, not improving, slowly increase.

Either way very gj, I need to find the time to get up and break 1500 still
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
May 20 2010 16:35 GMT
#5
All we need is a screenshot or two showing you being ridiculously BM to make this blog complete.
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
iMarshall
Profile Joined July 2008
Norway190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 16:41:42
May 20 2010 16:41 GMT
#6
Good job, congratulations! Little is more rewarding than setting a hard goal for oneself and reaching it. On the skills thing, I don't really know, as I haven't played much SC2. Being on the same level as the other people with rating around 1700 would imo make you a true "1700-player", while cheesing your way to 1700 without winning a single standard-play game would not (not that I think you will, I'm just saying). Good luck!
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
May 20 2010 17:02 GMT
#7
There is virtually no correlation between sc2 ranks and iccup ranks. Actually the SC2 ladder is such a poor reflection of skill, there's no ranking at all that I could say with certainty a player is good having reached it.

It kind of concerns me when you go back and look at the significant skill jumps between ranks in iccup and then you look at sc2 :/ "its beta" etc
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
May 20 2010 17:03 GMT
#8
On May 21 2010 01:41 iMarshall wrote:
Good job, congratulations! Little is more rewarding than setting a hard goal for oneself and reaching it. On the skills thing, I don't really know, as I haven't played much SC2. Being on the same level as the other people with rating around 1700 would imo make you a true "1700-player", while cheesing your way to 1700 without winning a single standard-play game would not (not that I think you will, I'm just saying). Good luck!


cheese isn't imbalanced, besides most 1700's would be able to fend off cheese from another 1700
hi
Zilver
Profile Joined December 2008
Finland282 Posts
May 20 2010 17:06 GMT
#9
The ratings reflecting upon people's skills will eventually balance out once SC2 is released.
I've only played on iccup for a couple of years, but I've heard people saying a current C- player would be atleast B rank in the early stages of iccup.
1a2a3a iWin
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
May 20 2010 17:15 GMT
#10
You wouldn't happen to be the Stuka who played cs a while back then had to move to malaysia or some other south eastern asian country [ forgot ] would you?
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
May 20 2010 17:17 GMT
#11
On May 21 2010 01:35 BlasiuS wrote:
All we need is a screenshot or two showing you being ridiculously BM to make this blog complete.

First thing I thought of when I saw the title.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
iMarshall
Profile Joined July 2008
Norway190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 17:21:24
May 20 2010 17:20 GMT
#12
On May 21 2010 02:03 stroggos wrote:
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On May 21 2010 01:41 iMarshall wrote:
Good job, congratulations! Little is more rewarding than setting a hard goal for oneself and reaching it. On the skills thing, I don't really know, as I haven't played much SC2. Being on the same level as the other people with rating around 1700 would imo make you a true "1700-player", while cheesing your way to 1700 without winning a single standard-play game would not (not that I think you will, I'm just saying). Good luck!


cheese isn't imbalanced, besides most 1700's would be able to fend off cheese from another 1700

I'm not saying that cheese is imbalanced, and sure, most 1700-players might fend off cheeses. Cheesing every game still doesn't make you as good as someone who rarely or never cheeses - people who climb the ranks by becoming better through lots of games played and increasing experience in the game. I once taught a friend of mine who'd never played Brood War before how to 5pool on Blue Storm, and he managed to get to mid D+ before he lost. It still didn't make him good, or even close to D+ level. Had he tried his best to play a standard game, he would surely lose to almost all the D-'s out there, because he didn't know anything about the game except how to do a 5pool.
Pengu1n
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 17:21:33
May 20 2010 17:21 GMT
#13
congrats!
i too broke the 1600 rating today...although it wasn't really a goal or anything i just keep playing
Chriamon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States886 Posts
May 20 2010 17:37 GMT
#14
On May 21 2010 01:30 Shiladie wrote:
I really wonder whether the bonus points cause a point creep, where, since there is a net increase in points within the system, players at the same skill level, not improving, slowly increase.

Either way very gj, I need to find the time to get up and break 1500 still

I dont think they do. I think the bonus points help you get to your actual skill level (that is, if you are a 1700 skill player, the bonus points will help you get there faster), but won't really cause point "creeping" as you mention. However, if new players join, a 1700 player's skill may now allow him/her to achieve a higher rating. So, achieving a 1700 during beta will very likely be much easier (or more difficult, depending) than after release.

I think the psuedo point "creeping" we tend to see just happens when players haven't played enough games for the game to properly gauge their level. There are wide variances in rating within the intial few games (like the first 50+) that will likely stabalize with time. If you've seen ratings creep up, I'm sure you'll also see some players who were intially placed too high whose points go down, even given the bonus pool.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/274906/1/Blaze/
Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
May 20 2010 17:52 GMT
#15
On May 21 2010 01:12 StukA wrote:
When I ask "is 1700 a pretty good rating," would that be like C- in ICCup? because the highest I ever reached in ICCup is D+ ;(


i think 1700point its like C-/C in iccup
P1: Best rank? P2:1st time iccup, P1:really? P1 looks at the account of P2 WOW B+ last season ^^
HeyitsClay
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada336 Posts
May 20 2010 18:06 GMT
#16
Its hard to compare the ranks in iccup to SC2 for the fact that some people have absolutly no game logic but can get to C+ just memorizing basic builds and having decent macro

Early beta having really good game logic is what will set u apart from other people
StukA
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States64 Posts
May 20 2010 18:57 GMT
#17
On May 21 2010 01:14 LokiLuck wrote:
Good Luck then

We are waiting for your post "Broke 1700 Rating!" :D


I'm hoping to reach 1700 and be consistent at it before Beta temporarily closes ;O... sooo 2 weeks? lol man thats gonna be a long grind and many ragequits


On May 21 2010 02:15 Ack1027 wrote:
You wouldn't happen to be the Stuka who played cs a while back then had to move to malaysia or some other south eastern asian country [ forgot ] would you?


haha no that is not me XD man I thought I had the first name of StukA T_T

On May 21 2010 02:17 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 01:35 BlasiuS wrote:
All we need is a screenshot or two showing you being ridiculously BM to make this blog complete.

.


Hey pokebunny, iono if you remember but i'm muFC[wD] lol I remember when you were in wD ;O

and BlasiuS I don't think i'm good enough to BM lol.




For some reason I get matched up faster when I reached 1500 compared to when I was around 1100~1300.

And as for my game logic, sadly i'm the type of player that has to play multiple games just to get a concept down so it takes me awhile to get the "know-how." Also I feel that my multitask isn't up to par yet so that definitely is an area that needs huge work lol. any tips on how to improve it besides just grinding games? do you guys have like a system of when to macro? I try to apply what a clan-mate told me in SC1:

"Before you go into battle you macro up some units. When you are in battle and it looks like you're going to win, go back and macro. If it looks like you might lose the battle, retreat and macro while retreating."

It's so difficult trying to apply that past the 15~minute mark lol. But thanks for the support! It'll definitely help when im trying to grind games lol
pshych0
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
274 Posts
May 20 2010 19:02 GMT
#18
gz
shit happens
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 20 2010 19:11 GMT
#19
I feel like you can still play very unrefined up to 1700 (I'm a 1700 Z). My builds are relatively unrefined which means I lose to stupid stuff all the time (I lost my last 2 ZvT on LT to a single thor on my cliff...) and my multitasking's very limited with my ~85 apm. I'm not even too creative, the only reason I'm at 1700 is because my decisions tend to make at least some sense.

You really notice an increase in skill from 1700 on though, T and P start having tight builds that will obliterate you as Z if you don't know certain timings, and their mechanics start being pretty good.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
May 20 2010 20:26 GMT
#20
congrats !!
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OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 20:39:02
May 20 2010 20:38 GMT
#21
Congrats but for everyday that passes rating gets less value since you get bonus points when you havent played in a couple of days..
i dunno lol
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
May 20 2010 20:45 GMT
#22
From others I have played, I would say that 1900-2000+ reminded me a lot of B-, you really have to work for your wins at that point.
Setz3R
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States455 Posts
May 20 2010 20:47 GMT
#23
On May 21 2010 01:12 StukA wrote:
When I ask "is 1700 a pretty good rating," would that be like C- in ICCup? because the highest I ever reached in ICCup is D+ ;(


I've never played 1 game of Iccup so you're already better than me in that respect. I've seen people claim they were D+ in ICcup and reach over 1900 though so I think maybe it just depends on the player? People have been telling D+ on Iccup is at least plat, then C- is closer to 2k. Then above 2k would be B/A with A to A+ being NonY and friends @ above 2200
twitch.tv/setz3r
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
May 20 2010 22:30 GMT
#24
I just broke 1600 as well :D

congrats!
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
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