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xLethargicax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States469 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 01:18:25
May 20 2010 00:44 GMT
#1
edit, nevermind. Apparently this is against the rules and I am a useless poster.

*****
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
May 20 2010 00:47 GMT
#2
So, a1 is the first term of the geometric sequence.

you want to find the n'th term (10th in this case).

In geometric sequence, to get the next term you multiply by r.

so a1 = 200, a2 = -100 ... etc.

do that to a10 baby and you're set.

when i saw "math" in the title i thought this would be some dissertation level shit.... so many math dudes on here
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xLethargicax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States469 Posts
May 20 2010 00:49 GMT
#3
I see! The equation we were given which fits I believe is

an'th = a1 * r ^ n-1

I am having trouble with the mechanical parts of it.

How do I go about raising -1/2 to the 9th power?
coltrane
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Chile988 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 00:57:11
May 20 2010 00:52 GMT
#4
On May 20 2010 09:47 Navi wrote:
So, a1 is the first term of the geometric sequence.

you want to find the n'th term (10th in this case).

In geometric sequence, to get the next term you multiply by r.

so a1 = 200, a2 = -100 ... etc.

do that to a10 baby and you're set.

when i saw "math" in the title i thought this would be some dissertation level shit.... so many math dudes on here


just wanted to add that r stands for ratio, and n is usually used to design a natural number, like the n-th number in the sequence.


And you can go to the 9th potence by doing it manually... thats how you study maths. When you get it... then start thinking about formulae.
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s h 1 k 4 i
Profile Joined May 2010
United States21 Posts
May 20 2010 00:54 GMT
#5
(-1/2)^9 = ((-1)^9) / (2^9) = -1 / (2^9), because multiplication is associative/commutative.
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
May 20 2010 00:55 GMT
#6
Yay win!
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
dangots0ul
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States919 Posts
May 20 2010 00:58 GMT
#7
don't worry bro, you won't be using 99% of this stuff ever after school. unless u go into math
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
May 20 2010 00:59 GMT
#8
Since this is solved, I have a fun one (it was for me!)

A truck is on the highway at a constant speed of "s" km/h. The truck's gas consumption is shown by:
q(s)= 1/250*((50/v)+v) in litres/km.

The driver is paid $35/hour.

Find at which speed the cost is at the minimum for the employer for a 254 kilometers drive provided that gasoline costs $1,059 per litre.

It had me confused for a while but it was cewl =D
PS: I'm horrible at math so it took me longer than it should have.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
xLethargicax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States469 Posts
May 20 2010 00:59 GMT
#9
Thanks for all the help guys! So I believe the answer is a10=-312 right?

I flipped the fraction over and did 2^9th = 512 but its over -1 so -512 + 200 = -312

so a10= -312 correct?
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 01:24:04
May 20 2010 01:02 GMT
#10
On May 20 2010 09:58 dangots0ul wrote:
don't worry bro, you won't be using 99% of this stuff ever after school. unless u go into math

Or any field that involves thinking or rational planning or managing a budget... it's not a difficult problem so you should pay attention.

Everything you learn in school can become important later on, even the boring stuff you may have no interest in. You don't want to grow up to be a dummy.
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s h 1 k 4 i
Profile Joined May 2010
United States21 Posts
May 20 2010 01:03 GMT
#11
Nope, you had the parantheses wrong in your original formula. It should be a_n = a_1 * (r^(n-1)). So you get 200*((-1/2)^9) = 200*(-1/512) instead of 200 - 512.
coltrane
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Chile988 Posts
May 20 2010 01:05 GMT
#12
On May 20 2010 09:59 xLethargicax wrote:
Thanks for all the help guys! So I believe the answer is a10=-312 right?

I flipped the fraction over and did 2^9th = 512 but its over -1 so -512 + 200 = -312

so a10= -312 correct?




so, are you trolling?


No, look, you have


200 * (-1/2) = -100
200 * (1/4) = 25
200 * (-1/8) = 12.5
.
.
.


So I dont get how could it be -312


And probably you wanna express that as a rational.
Jävla skit
coltrane
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Chile988 Posts
May 20 2010 01:08 GMT
#13
On May 20 2010 09:58 dangots0ul wrote:
don't worry bro, you won't be using 99% of this stuff ever after school. unless u go into math



Sorry for the double post, but whoever listen this douchebag is a douchebag aswell.

And even if he is right, that 1% totally owns.
Jävla skit
xLethargicax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States469 Posts
May 20 2010 01:15 GMT
#14
On May 20 2010 10:05 coltrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 09:59 xLethargicax wrote:
Thanks for all the help guys! So I believe the answer is a10=-312 right?

I flipped the fraction over and did 2^9th = 512 but its over -1 so -512 + 200 = -312

so a10= -312 correct?




so, are you trolling?


No, look, you have


200 * (-1/2) = -100
200 * (1/4) = 25
200 * (-1/8) = 12.5
.
.
.


So I dont get how could it be -312


And probably you wanna express that as a rational.


I'm not trolling, I am just really struggling through math right now. Geometry and the beginning of this year was no problem. I just really really messed my algebra 1 up and now I am really behind in algebra 2.

So if you follow each exponent eventually you get

200 * (-1/512) = but I am getting some crazy number...?

.390?
s h 1 k 4 i
Profile Joined May 2010
United States21 Posts
May 20 2010 01:18 GMT
#15
Yeah. You can follow coltrane's method. If a_1 = 200, a_2 = -100, a_3 = 25,...., you can kind of see that by the time you get to a_10, you'll have something relatively close to 0.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
May 20 2010 01:25 GMT
#16
On May 20 2010 09:59 Djzapz wrote:
Since this is solved, I have a fun one (it was for me!)

A truck is on the highway at a constant speed of "s" km/h. The truck's gas consumption is shown by:
q(s)= 1/250*((50/v)+v) in litres/km.

The driver is paid $35/hour.

Find at which speed the cost is at the minimum for the employer for a 254 kilometers drive provided that gasoline costs $1,059 per litre.

It had me confused for a while but it was cewl =D
PS: I'm horrible at math so it took me longer than it should have.


Take the derivative and find the minimum of the function?
Ravloo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States145 Posts
May 20 2010 01:28 GMT
#17
On May 20 2010 10:15 xLethargicax wrote:

So if you follow each exponent eventually you get

200 * (-1/512) = but I am getting some crazy number...?

.390?


Yeah, that's basically right Lethargicax. Just some extra to check your understanding:
- The product is negative, since a positive*negative is negative (so should be -.390)
- Also .390 is an approximation, not the exact answer. (ex: 1.99 is approximately 2). The exact using a calculator is -.390625
- If you DID round it you would round to -.391 since the next decimal place is a 6

Also it might help to see in fraction form and reducing:
200*(-1/512) = -200/512 = -25/64 (Just keep dividing top and bottom by two to reduce).


And nice job on taking initiative to understand what's going on, stay motivated homie : )
coltrane
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Chile988 Posts
May 20 2010 01:29 GMT
#18
dont you dare to divide 200 by 512.... such a waste of time. Algebra is for lazzy and smart people. Try to do it fast in one step and just express it on rational.

Its exactly 200 * (-1/512), so just write down -200/512, its ok, trust me. Or just ask a machine and write it. The important thing is that you get how it is done, and what does it mean, so you will be able to solve any problem like this one in the future, given any a_1, any r and any n.
Jävla skit
xLethargicax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States469 Posts
May 20 2010 01:31 GMT
#19
Thanks everyone, I finally understand it. I just checked my last two problems with the answers in the back of the book, and they are indeed correct!

thanks a ton!
dangots0ul
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States919 Posts
May 20 2010 01:37 GMT
#20
On May 20 2010 10:08 coltrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 09:58 dangots0ul wrote:
don't worry bro, you won't be using 99% of this stuff ever after school. unless u go into math



Sorry for the double post, but whoever listen this douchebag is a douchebag aswell.

And even if he is right, that 1% totally owns.


great logic douchebag.
i type teamliquid into the url subconsciously... all...the...time...
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