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Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
May 17 2010 11:53 GMT
#21
Agree with the intention, probably disagree with the methods, but this deserves serious consideration. Perhaps something like the youtube comment system where you can mark individual comments thumbs up or down? And comments that get thumbed down a lot get hidden? (or even temp banned? )

Either way, maybe start a topic under Website Feedback? I personally wouldn't mind a section just for high rep players to talk. Then i dont have to read through all this junk just for a few grains of wisdom.
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lowbright
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
308 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-17 11:59:09
May 17 2010 11:54 GMT
#22
the thing is that people that have low post counts and are good contributors are the obvious exception, rather than the rule.

many newer users spam 4chan nonsense or other internet garbage like inb4 ban or some sort of shitty image macro. of course, they usually get a warning or a ban, but this is a retroactive action; a lot of people don't seem to take the ten commandments seriously at all.

also if i understand how the upvote system (like the one on reddit), "good" posts get moved to the top and "bad" posts get moved to the bottom. but it's a really subjective thing, based on people's opinions. not every quality post gets recognition and if i'm not mistaken, this kind of system favors people who posted earlier and people who post late might have their good post ignored. it could also unfairly favor people that are known and popular, even if their post is not worthy of the upvotes.
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #49
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
May 17 2010 12:06 GMT
#23
bear in mind that the mayority of the posts are not bannable, but just unnecessary or bad, thus the reason for a new system, imo.

Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
May 17 2010 12:13 GMT
#24
I mean, if only people with thousands of posts should be listened to, then there wouldn't be forum stars like aers, Lyriene, MDT, with like sub 500 posts I believe. That wouldn't even be enough to post in the "500 posts for a Beta Key" thread. I mean, I have thousands of posts because I frequent LR threads a ton, but I can assure you many of my posts are not "quality." If you want quality, go look for Trozz.

Also Lyriene is cute :3

Also lol.

On May 17 2010 20:52 disco wrote:
Well, there's going to be more people so automatically there's going to be more trash. But there's also going to be more of the good stuff. We might just need more mods to handle it all.

RELEASE THE KRAKEN.

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lowbright
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
308 Posts
May 17 2010 12:16 GMT
#25
that feels like a really elitist designation to me though. we have freedom of speech to promote the sharing of ideas and to allow every voice to be heard. a lot of posts can be seen to be unnecessary or bad, it's not like every post you make will be some ridiculously insightful and thoughtful response (unless you're Ver or fyre_dragon or someone like that). if you think somethings funny, posting a simple haha as an acknowledgment of the person's contribution isn't necessarily a bad thing, small acknowledgments like that are what make human interactions more interesting. we're not writing a graduate thesis, we're just a bunch of geeks that happen to be sharing our thoughts on a forum together.
i can see what motivated you to make this suggestion and why you would be interested in it; the principle is admirable i suppose, but i feel like there's something wrong with it. it's hard to articulate since i'm pretty tired right now but hopefully i will be able to explain myself better after i take my last exam and finally get some slep.
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #49
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25986 Posts
May 17 2010 12:40 GMT
#26
Who wants to be part of a community where they can look through the glass wall but not participate? That's dumb.
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Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
May 17 2010 12:48 GMT
#27
The only big downside with lots and lots of members is that if you like me like to read the entire thread before posting it gets kinda hard if you stumble upon the thread 15pages into the discussion.
And since I assume alot of people do not read more than the op and possibly the last page the threads can catch the youtube comments disease. Fortunately we have top notch moderation to help with that part.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
May 17 2010 12:49 GMT
#28
WCR had a forum that only allowed certain veterans to post in it (like a strat guide collection/discussion) that had more views than their other forums.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
lowbright
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
308 Posts
May 17 2010 13:03 GMT
#29
On May 17 2010 21:48 Eatme wrote:
The only big downside with lots and lots of members is that if you like me like to read the entire thread before posting it gets kinda hard if you stumble upon the thread 15pages into the discussion.
And since I assume alot of people do not read more than the op and possibly the last page the threads can catch the youtube comments disease. Fortunately we have top notch moderation to help with that part.


haha this reminds me of that creepiest starcraft player on facebook thread
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #49
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 17 2010 13:47 GMT
#30
I think it's up to the user to find when threads are full of crap or whether or not they have insightful analysis. This is one of the main reasons I stopped looking at the SC2 Strategy forums, because it occurred to me that most people on the strategy forums didn't know what they were talking about and drawing conclusions from thin air.

Ultimately, if you don't want to sift through pages of information, don't. Because in all honesty, taking the time to try to find valuable posts in a 76 page thread, might be a little difficult to do.

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Clamev
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Germany498 Posts
May 17 2010 13:48 GMT
#31
I know what you mean i usually scroll through threads and only read the nickname most of the time to read what important people have to say,but i think this will get better a few after sc2 is released.
6Pool or die trying
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 17 2010 14:13 GMT
#32
I think the fact that anyone can have a discussion about SC or anything with nony or idra or ret is one of the best things about TL.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
lu_cid
Profile Joined April 2008
United States428 Posts
May 17 2010 14:34 GMT
#33
I think post count is overrated as well. I could easily have thousands of posts by now if I spammed 20 posts a day since I joined. Also, a large majority of posts are 1-liners that really don't contribute much to the discussion. Just look at this post. Here I am vomiting my opinion onto a blog where nobody actually cares.
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